Birbal3 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Batting first and putting up a big score using all 50 overs and then bowling the opposition out for a small score... or bowling first and bowling the opposition out for a small score and trying to reach it in as few overs as possible... Anyone know? May be important for Dravid to know to decide what to do versus Bermuda...if he again wins the toss Link to comment
Guest BossBhai Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? -- Removed on request of the user -- Link to comment
DravidDaBest Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Undoubtedly playing second (if you can get them all out like 70 - 100) Sample SL scored 321/50 (RR 6.42) Bermuda 78/50 (RR - 1.56) NRR = 4.86 But lets reverse it...Bermuda bats first and has RR 1.56..you can score that runs helll a lot quicker...maybe in 9 overs 78/9 (RR 8.66) so your NRR = 7.1 For low totals, you can notch up your NRR pretty good if you let the minnow play first Link to comment
Bumper Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Batting second, as u have a known target to knock off. Batting first gives little opportunity to control your destiny. You know u have to score big & knock off the opponents cheaply, but how big, how cheaply are unknown. Besides, in these conditions, batting first is a sure fire way to lose. I would chase in both games, Link to comment
DravidDaBest Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Actually, I was wrong....It depends....Even for the above calculation, the NRR overall (considering previous games) is better for batting first Game -1 Team A 250/50 Team B 200/50 Game-2 Team A 321/50 Team C 78/50 NRR for Team A = ((250+321)/100) - ((200+78)/100) = 5.71-2.78 =2.93 Lets reverse it Game 2 Team C 78/50 Team A 79/9 NRR for Team A = 324/59 - (278/100) = 5.49 -2.78 = 2.71 I guess, it all depends...looks a bit tricky and dependent on you opponents score range and your score range Link to comment
sm332 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? either way we need to get a huge win against Bermuda .. Link to comment
Guest BossBhai Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? -- Removed on request of the user -- Link to comment
Mandrake Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? and god forbid if any game gets rained off and D/L crap and stuff......we really need to do a lot of work to undo this mess..... Link to comment
yoda Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? DDB, I think you were right earlier. Chasing gives you a better chance. When you bat out the full 50 overs, your effort is spread over the full 50 overs. Unless you can get the other team all out within a few overs, the differential may not be much. When you chase a small total, you can smack and get a huge differential. Examples: B2 300/50, B4 120/40 - NRR = 6 - 2.4 = 3.6 B4 120/40, B2 121/15 - NRR = 8 - 2.4 = 5.6 When you chase small totals, chasing 120 in 20 overs vs 15 overs can make a huge difference (of 2) in the NRR. Link to comment
DravidDaBest Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Yoda I thought the same way as you initially.....But its not right. You may have better NRR for that game...But when you calculate overall NRR, you might lose (I've given example after the first one) Of course, it all depends on how much the other team score (score range) Link to comment
gs Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? This might help improve NRR :hic: Link to comment
King Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? BTW Bangladesh plays Bermuda on 25th and that is the last game for the first round. All these calculations are just a waste of time considering Bangladesh will have the option of setting the run rate in the last game they play. India will have played all their games by then. Link to comment
Vishwatma Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? just bloody beat the next 2 teams as well as u can...eff the NRR oh and get some pandit to wish a B'desh upset against SL :lmao: Link to comment
DesiChap Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Make Bermuda Bat. Assume they score 80. Get the damn facking runs in < 8 overs. IF we beat SL in a decent fashin and I am sure Bangla's fairy tale is over SL will Kill them I expect Jayasurya/Tharanga to go bonkers on Bangla. The last match Bangla/Bermuda will not matter as Bangla will need NRR of 15+ in that game. Someone please wake me up :lmao: Link to comment
varsha Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? I thought our current NRR would be something like -2 something, but it's -0.1 something, so it's not all that bad. We need to thrash Bermuda, win good against SL and hope that SL thrash BD. Link to comment
DesiChap Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Yes Bangladesh made a big mistake yesterday by not going for the kill and creating a NRR hell for us. Link to comment
yoda Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Yoda I thought the same way as you initially.....But its not right. You may have better NRR for that game...But when you calculate overall NRR, you might lose (I've given example after the first one) Of course, it all depends on how much the other team score (score range) DDB, excellent point. Link to comment
veer Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? BTW Bangladesh plays Bermuda on 25th and that is the last game for the first round. All these calculations are just a waste of time considering Bangladesh will have the option of setting the run rate in the last game they play. India will have played all their games by then. I was thinking the same thing.. bangla is playing bermuda on the last day of first round, they can easily improve their run rate once they know the target.. sooo start backing bangladesh against lanka.... or pile up 400 against bermuda.. i would like to see early exit.... RD has to pay the prise for his blunders.. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? So basically to bowl first and skittle them and then chase them in a few overs is the best way? Link to comment
THX_1138 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Which Gives Better Chance To Improve NRR? Do this... beat the sh*t out of bermuda, i am sure we can manage that, and repeat what we did either last time to sri lanka or last to last time... i.e. pick one of these: 1999: India 371/50 Sri Lanka 200 odd/50 (since all out) or 2003: India 300 odd/50 Sri Lanka 100 odd/50 (since all out) note another thing guys, it helps us that sri lanka advance to the next level, and not bangladesh. if sri lanka advances, we will advance with bonus points. Link to comment
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