DomainK Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 The conveyor belt of islamic terrorists will continue. The ideolgy is growing and growing. In india there seems to be an endless supply of young muslims ready to die in jihad and go to paradise. You will no doubt call me a racist for stating the facts. But these are the facts. What's the solution ? Give them what they seek- death. Just make it quick enough so that innocent people dont die.
varun Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 IMO, we need to have a strong homeland defense first.. Have rapid and efficient emergency services to handle such disasters.. while trying to have better intel to prevent them from occuring in the first place. I can't believe I saw a chopper for the first time NOW.. like 20 hours after the incident.. Ridiculous. Just going on the offense, without having a proper defense is bound to fail.
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 I don't believe Fontaine is running away from the fact' date=' he is simply proposing a solution. It is very easy to blame someone, and when it comes to solving it.. just saying that it's insolvable. That is just escapism[/quote'] What solution has he offered? His soultion is clamp down on the terrorists. Wow what a good idea!
Fontaine Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Fontaine you are in denial. The world is suffering from muslim terrorism. You do not want to mention the M word but it is there. In india we are suffering constantly from muslim terrorism. No idea why you do not want to face the facts. Yeah thanks for that solution. What a great idea, live in fear and blame the M word for the problems. Now I can go back to ignoring you as you have no real ideas, solutions or thoughts on how to move forward.
varun Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 What solution has he offered? His soultion is clamp down on the terrorists. Wow what a good idea! The simplest ideas are mostly the best ideas. What do you propose we do ?
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Its impossible to stop men with guns, grenades and bombs walking in to civillian ares like hotels, schools, hospital, shopping areas etc and shooting people, taking hostages etc etc They want to die and kill others. We kill them, then more young muslims with fundamental ideolgy jump of the conveyor belt and the cycle continues. And the more they are clamped down on the more muslims get angry and the ideolgy and the conveyor belt gets bigger and bigger. Impossobile to combat suicide nutters.
milkman Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 CNN reporting now that Indian Navy has boarded a boat/ship that came from Karachi.
varun Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Its impossible to stop men with guns, grenades and bombs walking in to civillian ares like hotels, schools, hospital, shopping areas etc and shooting people, taking hostages etc etc They want to die and kill others. We kill them, then more young muslims with fundamental ideolgy jump of the conveyor belt and the cycle continues. And the more they are clamped down on the more muslims get angry and the ideolgy and the conveyor belt gets bigger and bigger. Impossobile to combat suicide nutters. Seems to me you are saying that the problem is the ideology right ? So we try to change that.
varun Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 CNN reporting now that Indian Navy has boarded a boat/ship that came from Karachi. Nothing came of it as last reported by CNN/IBN
Fontaine Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Its impossible to stop men with guns, grenades and bombs walking in to civillian ares like hotels, schools, hospital, shopping areas etc and shooting people, taking hostages etc etc They want to die and kill others. We kill them, then more young muslims with fundamental ideolgy jump of the conveyor belt and the cycle continues. And the more they are clamped down on the more muslims get angry and the ideolgy and the conveyor belt gets bigger and bigger. Impossobile to combat suicide nutters. Oh get real. For the vast majority of the last 100 years these attacks were fought internally between muslims stupidly fighting/killing over semantics in their religion. It's only in the past 20 years or so that the violence has intensified outward to other religions/nations (and I'm excluding the Israelly situation here which is entirely different). Varun is spot on in saying that our own anti terrorist defenses and intel needs to improve leaps and bounds. But we also need to be ready to severe ties with nations like Afghan/Pak etc if indeed these latest terrorist attacks have sources in that country. Economically and militarily shun these countries until their own people get sick of the fundamentalists and that's when they'll lose their ground root support.
Fontaine Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Seems to me you are saying that the problem is the ideology right ? So we try to change that. You can stop a man from killing a fellow human being with laws and police but you can't stop him from believing in what he does.
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Seems to me you are saying that the problem is the ideology right ? So we try to change that. How? The only change can only come from within. But there does not seem to be the will from the muslim community to do this. Also this ideology seems to be coming from abroad and has spread in India like wildfire. It seems as if islamic idology amongst many is standardising world wide. Never used to be like that. Now their causes seem to be anything involving muslims, while previously they were only concerned with local issues that directly effected them. The access to media world wide eg internet. Seems to be standardising and formulating a hard core form of islam. This seems to put the causes of islam above and beyond everything.
zubinpepsi Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 1120 Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says that "existing laws will be tightened to ensure there are no loopholes available to terrorists to escape the clutches of the law". He also pledges to restrict the entry of suspects into the country and make sure "every perpetrator, organiser or supporter of terror pays the price" for the attacks. "We will tell our neighbours that their territory being used to carry out attacks in India will not be tolerated. I'm confident the people of India will rise united to face this challenge to the country's security and integrity," he concludes. can someone kill/shoot this spineless B@st@rd whos a sonia punani licker.... god i hate this motha ***a..
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 You can stop a man from killing a fellow human being with laws and police but you can't stop him from believing in what he does. Bingo. now you see the problem. Thats the crux of it. That is why I am so pessimistic and quite frankly depressed about the situation.
Fontaine Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Oh get real. For the vast majority of the last 100 years these attacks were fought internally between muslims stupidly fighting/killing over semantics in their religion. It's only in the past 20 years or so that the violence has intensified outward to other religions/nations (and I'm excluding the Israelly situation here which is entirely different). Varun is spot on in saying that our own anti terrorist defenses and intel needs to improve leaps and bounds. But we also need to be ready to severe ties with nations like Afghan/Pak etc if indeed these latest terrorist attacks have sources in that country. Economically and militarily shun these countries until their own people get sick of the fundamentalists and that's when they'll lose their ground root support. 1120 Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says that "existing laws will be tightened to ensure there are no loopholes available to terrorists to escape the clutches of the law". He also pledges to restrict the entry of suspects into the country and make sure "every perpetrator, organiser or supporter of terror pays the price" for the attacks. "We will tell our neighbours that their territory being used to carry out attacks in India will not be tolerated. I'm confident the people of India will rise united to face this challenge to the country's security and integrity," he concludes. Looks like PM Singh and I agree. It's about time we take a hard line stance against any nation that endorses terrorism or even fails to do it's best to wipe it out when it spills out from its own borders. I really, really hope this man can walk the walk as well because the attacks have been increasing the past few years and each time swept under the rug.
varun Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 You can stop a man from killing a fellow human being with laws and police but you can't stop him from believing in what he does. I know :) .. i was going there with my argument. What we can do is diminish how strong his kid's ideology is.. and that can only happen if the kid realizes that following the arcane ideology is not worth it if our defenses are strong.
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Looks like PM Singh and I agree. It's about time we take a hard line stance against any nation that endorses terrorism or even fails to do it's best to wipe it out when it spills out from its own borders. I really, really hope this man can walk the walk as well because the attacks have been increasing the past few years and each time swept under the rug. You are in denial. I also used to and would always blame pak. I would say our muslims are different. However, the problem is clearly also from within, from our indian muslims. They have conducted this attack as well ,no doubt in conjuction with help from abroad but only help. So many of the recent attacks have been from indians. Not all muslims support them but there are enough to cause mayhem. P.s apologise to indian muslims if offended but these are the facts. and to Fonataine if you are a muslim(that is not a dig)
zubinpepsi Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 oh comeon Fontaine.. thesee *******s have been saying the same thing for every incident.. wtf, hes gonna tell his neighbours?? as if they will stop all this as soon our dear PM tells them... comeon be real..... i think the people of India should rise against these bloody politicians .. should kill every ***inng politician in this country.. the army should take over.. n put everyone in their place....
King Tendulkar Posted November 27, 2008 Posted November 27, 2008 Only a dictorship for 10 years with someone like modi at the helm can save us. Give him 10 years to do what needs to be done. Democracy does not work in India. Like zubs said let the army take over. We need to be like china for 10 years
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