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Tip of the iceberg yaar, tip of the ICEBERG. Watch this ch.uthiya from 5:55 onwards JEE, SUNIYE, HUMEY KHABHAR MILLI HAI AUR APNE INDIAN INTELLIGENCE SET-UP KE ANDAR SE PAHOONCHI HAI KE IS LADKE KA NAAM AMAR SINGH HAI AUR ISKE SAATH JOH LADKA MAARA GAYA HAI, ISKA NAAM HEERA LAL HAI...ISKO MAAR KE SHAKAL MUTILIATE KAR DI GAYI HI...KISI PAKISTANI MUSALMAAN KI SHAKAL AISI NAHI HOTI...AAYI, ANALYSE KARIYE....BACKPACK MEIN SHARAB KI BOTTLE HAI....:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Here is where his argument breaks in the video... The 'expert' guy is first saying that the gunman is wearing a yellow band on his wrist is the sign of BJP's goons. Then corrected by the other man that its orange, then he goes back to say its 'saffron'. Then , the expert discloses that the gunman's name is Amar Singh and is a Sikh and is a raw agent. Those are conflicting statements. On one hand he is saying the gunman is Sikh and in another saying that he is a BJP goon. Sorry Sir, those arguments go down the drain:secret:
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Blundered? Absolutely. This is going to take Pakistan down really into the gutters. While killing people in streets and holding people hostage may seem "daredevilry" to some, it has effectively left Indian establishment with a treasuredrove of evidence - cellphones, calls, GPS, boats, weapons, ammunitions..and a alive terrorist. And these are what has been shared with the people. If India plays it right it can prove beyond reasonable doubt of Pakistan's hand. By the way I am not sure if there was anything new in the article Chandan. Did anything in particular catch your attention?
I know that most of the facts given in the beginning of the article are not new and was perhaps known to everyone. But these lines:
Now as Manmohan Singh and Zardari attempt to make progress in the peace process, the Pakistani Army and ISI have unleashed their commandos on Mumbai. This could not have happened without the patronage of ISI and the Army. The announcement of the Director- General ISI's visit to Delhi and its subsequent cancellation also shows who wields power in Islamabad. It is not clear how the targets for terrorist attacks in Mumbai were chosen. While its primary purposes may have been to damage India economically, to wreck the Indo- Pakistan peace process and expose the Zardari government as powerless, one wonders whether the international impact of this attack was adequately thought through.
It seems as though the author is convinced that the ISI is behind this. How did he get that impression? How can a senior analyst and a very responsible writer who seems to be writing everything after extensive research be so sure that Pak army and ISI have done this? And if it is that clear that Pak army is not necessarily to only defend its own country but to terrorise other nations in the world as well, why hasn't anything being done about it by all the countries who have been the target of terrorism in this decade? And what is holding India from saving itself from Pak army and ISI if it is so clear?
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I know that most of the facts given in the beginning of the article are not new and was perhaps known to everyone. But these lines: It seems as though the author is convinced that the ISI is behind this. How did he get that impression? How can a senior analyst and a very responsible writer who seems to be writing everything after extensive research be so sure that Pak army and ISI have done this? And if it is that clear that Pak army is not necessarily to only defend its own country but to terrorise other nations in the world as well, why hasn't anything being done about it by all the countries who have been the target of terrorism in this decade? And what is holding India from saving itself from Pak army and ISI if it is so clear?
Bomb and the lack of balls.
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It seems as though the author is convinced that the ISI is behind this. How did he get that impression? How can a senior analyst and a very responsible writer who seems to be writing everything after extensive research be so sure that Pak army and ISI have done this?
Because the evidence points towards that. Think it this way. This was no conspiracy hatched over a weekend. It was a well thought out planned chalked over months. The training itself took about a year, or more. Do you seriously think a team of 20 odd people, of which 10 were finally selected, could train at land(and sea) with advanced weapons, grenades, GPS operation, map readings, attack strategies, naval training etc etc without being detected? This in a country that is largely run by Army and Secret Service? Of course all this is without the inputs that K Narayan would have received courtsey his background, and he is not in liberty to share with us.
And if it is that clear that Pak army is not necessarily to only defend its own country but to terrorise other nations in the world as well, why hasn't anything being done about it by all the countries who have been the target of terrorism in this decade? And what is holding India from saving itself from Pak army and ISI if it is so clear?
Three words - United States of America..well 4 actually if you consider "of". USA has basically shielded Pakistan even though if there is one agency in the world that understands Pakistan best it is the CIA. Afterall they helped create ISI. USA has always used Pakistan Army and in turn has been used by them.
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Because the evidence points towards that. Think it this way. This was no conspiracy hatched over a weekend. It was a well thought out planned chalked over months. The training itself took about a year, or more. Do you seriously think a team of 20 odd people, of which 10 were finally selected, could train at land(and sea) with advanced weapons, grenades, GPS operation, map readings, attack strategies, naval training etc etc without being detected? This in a country that is largely run by Army and Secret Service? Of course all this is without the inputs that K Narayan would have received courtsey his background, and he is not in liberty to share with us. Three words - United States of America..well 4 actually if you consider "of". USA has basically shielded Pakistan even though if there is one agency in the world that understands Pakistan best it is the CIA. Afterall they helped create ISI. USA has always used Pakistan Army and in turn has been used by them.
what abt China siding with pak? that too a reason?
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Here is where his argument breaks in the video... The 'expert' guy is first saying that the gunman is wearing a yellow band on his wrist is the sign of BJP's goons. Then corrected by the other man that its orange, then he goes back to say its 'saffron'. Then , the expert discloses that the gunman's name is Amar Singh and is a Sikh and is a raw agent. Those are conflicting statements. On one hand he is saying the gunman is Sikh and in another saying that he is a BJP goon. Sorry Sir, those arguments go down the drain:secret:
Like I mentioned in a certain forum "Amar Singh" is a Sikh Hindu Zionist.:nervous: I thought Zionism is a term pertaining to only Jews.
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Three words - United States of America..well 4 actually if you consider "of". USA has basically shielded Pakistan even though if there is one agency in the world that understands Pakistan best it is the CIA. Afterall they helped create ISI. USA has always used Pakistan Army and in turn has been used by them.
Interesting! USA is shielding Pak? Weren't they themselves affected by terror 7 years back? And it seems that USA is getting close relation with India as well recently. Rice is vising India, FBI is coming to help India and so on. Why will USA do it if it feels like shielding Pak is its top priority? Just want to know.
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what abt China siding with pak? that too a reason?
China doesnt shield Pakistan. It assists Pakistan with weapons, money and infrastructure. However when it comes to politics in South Asia it basically keeps its cards close to itself, specially in last decade or so whereby it has become increasingly important for China to have India in good book. It still uses Pakistan to weaken India but on public forum it is USA, and not China, that comes to Pakistan's rescue.
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Does anyone know in whats the minimum size of a nuke? and can it be detonated remotely or what other possibilities If Pak navy has the audacity to send these people ith guns, what are the chances a nuke can be transported and blown like that

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Interesting! USA is shielding Pak? Weren't they themselves affected by terror 7 years back?
Yes. And they were hit by the very same triad of people who USA had raised over the years - ISI/Taliban/Osama. Since 911 it has gone after Taliba and Osama and to do that it needed ISI which used to be the conduit for CIA with these groups. Not surprisingly ISI has played both sides, and continue to do so.
And it seems that USA is getting close relation with India as well recently. Rice is vising India, FBI is coming to help India and so on. Why will USA do it if it feels like shielding Pak is its top priority? Just want to know.
USA has its own priorities. It realizes very well that Pakistan is the factory of terrorism in the world. However if it pushes it too hard there would be a big, and powerful, failed state in the region. Also this will only make USA further alienated in the Muslim world. Pakistan, for all its drawbacks, remains a good ally precisely because it has Muslim population. USA works with India because of what we stand for and the future. It stands with Pakistan because of its past and the fear of what-if. xx
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