GOI's Bill for National Investigative Agency (NIA)- BJP assures FULL Support

[sandtest]

taking bitter medicine after shooting own foot! The same UPA government, the first thing it did after coming to power was removal of anti-terror law for appeasing some idiots in India. And look today it has come back biting them. UPA after supervising slaughtering of hundreds of Indians has decided to finally bring some tough law ( but with different name). Note the provisions in the law are almost same as they were in POTA pased with great pain by previous BJP government. Although Arun Jaitely says this new law still needs to be tougher, BJP will give their support. Now is the time for Mulayams and Laloos of India, to wake-up and give full support. If these two mofos again played their minority card to oppose anti-terror law, all Yadavs and OBCs of UP Bihar should boycott Samajwadi party and Rashtriya janta Dal. Let us see if these vultures can survive with vote of their beloved "minority".

BJP pledges support to creation of national probe agency Press Trust of India Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:56 PM (Delhi) Main Opposition BJP on Tuesday pledged its support to the "reluctant" move of the government to create a National Investigation Agency (NIA). "Being a nationalist party, we will support even a reluctant and incomplete step like this (NIA) as long as it is a step against terrorism," party leader Arun Jaitley told reporters in Delhi on Tuesday. He said that some of its provisions fell short of the party's expectations and that it was a "reluctant step" on the part of the government. "The government's step towards NIA is also a reluctant admission by the UPA of the long standing campaign of the BJP to have a tough stand against terror elements," Jaitley said. "We will examine the bill in detail and offer our comments later, we have always felt that special investigative machinery must have strong teeth," he said. Jaitley said that while terrorist offences have been redefined in the bill and the bail provisions made tough to some extent, but some other expectations of the party like the admissibility of confessions have not been addressed. It seems that the efforts of the Home Ministry have not succeeded in the cabinet, Jaitley said. "We will support the bill and at the same time certainly voice our concern for the left out provisions and lacunae and fight for its inclusion," he said. Gearing up to fight terrorism in a more effective manner, government on Tuesday introduced in Lok Sabha a Bill to set up a National Investigation Agency (NIA) and another legislation to strengthen the law against terror. http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/mumbaiterrorstrike/Story.aspx?ID=NEWEN20080076714&type=News

Finally, govt clears central terror agency, tougher laws 16 Dec 2008, 0004 hrs IST, TNN Print Email Discuss Share Save Comment Text: NEW DELHI: After dragging its feet for years, the UPA government on Monday finally cleared a central terror agency - christened National Investigating Agency (NIA) - and tightened the relevant laws to allow wiretaps being used as evidence, in camera trials and fast track special courts to deal with terror cases. ( Watch ) The Union cabinet defined the powers of the NIA at a late evening meeting. The Agency would be free to take up terror-related crimes on its own across states without getting special permission from states (law and order being a State subject). Drug trafficking and counterfeit currency have been clubbed together with terrorism as designated ``scheduled crimes'' that can be dealt by the NIA. As anticiaped by TOI on December 7, the Union Cabinet also cleared significant changes to the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA), including setting up of fast track courts for speedy trial of terror-related cases. The Bill for setting up NIA and amemdments to UAPA are expected to be moved in Parliament on Tuesday itself. The Cabinet also cleared a change in the charter of CISF to allow the para military force to provide security to individuals in what is seen as a recognition of the fact that industrialists and sports personalities also feature on the hit list of terrorists. On the whole, the Cabinet appears to have juggled the new urgency on terror post-Mumbai with its political anxiety about the potential misuse of tough laws. Consequently, while the cabinet decided to set up NIA and amend certain provisions of the law, it did not approve a special anti-terror law or the admissibility of confessions before cops. The proposal of a special anti-terror law, hinted of by law minister H R Bhardwaj on Saturday, did not find favour with senior ministers, with railway minister Lalu Prasad and steel minister Ramvilas Paswan speaking of the fear of a tough law being misused against minorities, tribals and others. The Cabinet also turned down some of the strong proposals - notably for putting the onus of proving innocence on the accused, and to treat accused's statement in police custody as evidence against him during the trial. But the amendments to be carried out through the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act( Amendment) Bill are significant and will give greater teeth to the law. Thus, the Cabinet has cleared changes in the Evidence Act to allow for for the admissibility of electronic intercepts as evidence - a belated recognition of the fact that finding witnesses against terrorists may be difficult. This was part of the now-defuct POTA and is contained in Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act (MCOCA). The changes will allow for trial in camera to protect witnesses whose identity and addresses can also be withheld for security reasons. For this purpose, the case can also be shifted to any other court, deemed more secure for witnesses, by the High Court. The Special Courts will be a fast track mechanism to presided over by Sessions Judges or Aditional District Judges to be selected by the respective High Courts. An appeal against the order of the Special Court will lie with the High Court, and has to be filed within 30 days. The High Court will have 90 days to dispose of the appeal. The period for which an accused can be kept in police custody under UAPA is being extended to 30 days from 15 days at present. The 90-day deadline for filing the chargesheet has not been changed because of reservations expressed by the members of the Cabinet. The Cabinet also rejected a proposal for preventive detention of terror suspects, following apprehensions of misuse raised by ministers. In this case, even law minister H R Bhardwaj was not sure of the measure passing judicial muster. The proposed law for setting up the NIA envisages police officers at the level of SHOs across the country can pass on information of a ``scheduled crime'' to agency within 15 days of registration of a crime. If the agency decides to take up investigations, its officer will assume the investigation powers of the local cop with regard to the concerned crime. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Finally_govt_clears_central_terror_agency/articleshow/3842368.cms

[Guest dada_rocks]

They are doing sthg and BJp assured support.. they did nothign even refused to discuss the issue in all-party-meeting BJP justifiably kept bombasting them wiuth questions llike whay cavalier dont'care attitude against this menace.. Chumps and psec thiugs from media all the while kept singing BJp is politicaisng the issue..Hope now they go and on by one apologize to BJP this bloody things should have bene done long time back. This didn;t have to come to this sorry state for UPA to get moving.. Arun Jaitley succinctly put it: If they want consensus on do nothing policy of last four and half years then they are fooling themselves and yes if they want to do sthg about it they have our full unconditional support. Having said that: der se hi sahi, salon ki aakhen to khuli

[sandtest]

^^ They will never apologise to BJP. Shameless hypocrites they are. Just a day after Mumbai attack, UPA's Padmashree awardee stooges Barkhaa dutt and Rajdeep worked overtime and made sure that nobody questions UPA by barking 24x7 -- ohh Please do not politicise the terror attacks. But this bozos purposefully hidden the fact that it was UPA which first Politicized terrorism by removing POTA law in the name of fake well being of "minority".

[Guest dada_rocks]

^^ They will never apologise to BJP. Shameless hypocrites they are. Just a day after Mumbai attack, UPA's Padmashree awardee stooges Barkhaa dutt and Rajdeep worked overtime and made sure that nobody questions UPA by barking 24x7 -- ohh Please do not politicise the terror attacks. But this bozos purposefully hidden the fact that it was UPA which first Politicized terrorism by removing POTA law in the name of fake well being of "minority".

I always wonder how these guys get away with in your face lies.. A party runs leection on the plank that it will undo the steps taken against teror by other party and somehow that is not politicising terro.. A party selectvely ratifies tough laws for congress ruled states and denies the same to BJP ruled states and smeohow these media muggots have sold that actually it;s BJP who is politicising the matter

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^^ that is a defeat inflicted on mother India by p-sec, leftist, Congress gang. They successfully launched a psy-ops and succeeded in making Public believe that terror was politicized by Hindutva BJP, when in fact it was "Holy family" and Congress who were practicising the experiment of terror politicization. parantu, Bhagwaan ke ghar der hai andher nahi Finally it hit them back when jehaadis slaughtered Indians in Mumbai and whole world wondered at impotency of Indians. Kaangress thought pardoning terrorists like Afzal Guru and serving him Biryani in jail will earn them award of Khaleefa-e-Momeen. But little they knew that educated Muslims like M.J. Akbar have started calling their bluff. poetic justice indeed.:giggle:

[Guest dada_rocks]

Ram Vilas Paaswan yes the same secular leader who had no qualmns parading around a mullah in Osama Bin ladne get up for votes has spoken for hsi islamic terrosit brothers. Arundhati bit$h too has giver her few cents against the comign rule already..

[Ram]

Whats the bet that, just like the India-US nuclear agreement, the BJP wont do a u-turn on this too?

[Guest dada_rocks]

Whats the bet that' date=' just like the India-US nuclear agreement, the BJP wont do a u-turn on this too?[/quote'] BS BJP never did a u turn there..Congress was the one who kept lying claiming one thign while did the other in secret.. Coming to the topic: You should bet on what are the chances whether this bill wud have anything in it in face of secular stalwarts veto and congressi's own reluctance.. They have been forced to take this stand it has nto come on tis own and this fact gives me a clue that if this doesn;t get support of BJP then it again is going to be regurgitation fo what we already have. All the psec thug machinery is already in motion against putting its best effort to water down the efficiency of the bill.. There is a saying in my part fo India: "Hurakayal kutta shikar nahin pakarat hai." Translation: Implored, guided dog seldom catches the prey. Some tinted glasss you wear here is a party who never bothered to call all party meeting while left right and centre people kept getting murdered. at the end of its life under immese media pressure for a change has been forced to do sthg and instead you doubt the commitment of those who not only did sthg have been shouting since day one once their deed was undone by this present setuyp.. And if you want to look at the double standard of this UPA look no further than my signature.. we have a most sick party in centre which puts price on people's life depending on whether it;s rule by congress or not.. If no congress you can go to hell..

[Guest dada_rocks]

Bill has passed finally it's not as tough as NDA would have liked but at least it is a small step towards that larger goal..

[Ram]

So lets get this straight.. Anything good that happens to our country is because of the NDA... Anything bad that happens is because of the UPA.. Nice logic.. :giggle:

[triam]

I would want to know what is the punishment for officials who abuse this law. There should always be a safeguard against babudom abusing these types of omni-laws.

[Guest dada_rocks]

So lets get this straight.. Anything good that happens to our country is because of the NDA... Anything bad that happens is because of the UPA.. Nice logic.. :giggle:

Nice way to hide embarrassment nowhere anyone said anythign like you are vomitting here.. but this this episode who has bene on what side since ageas is clear to anyone with no malice Fact1: UPA came on the plank that they will remove POTA and they did FACt2: Most of the {OTA provisions hthey have bene forced to bring back ( this u-turn makes them look iidotic and I know people like you won;t accept because you have been part of that machinery who shouted against poat) Fact3: UPA despite shouting POTA is draconian have bene pushing similar law in congress-ruled states and denyign that tool to BJP ruled states.> Thsi I call naked politicisiation of life of the people.> Again those who are honest can see this but congress apologist can;t be expected to be hoenst in thsi episode and you are one of them..

[Guest dada_rocks]

I would want to know what is the punishment for officials who abuse this law. There should always be a safeguard against babudom abusing these types of omni-laws.

there is provisison within 72 hours police will have to coinvince court that invokation of POTA or law with any other name is justified in court. People if feel more oversight is needed that can be brought back but this nonsese of UPA and psec thugs in general which dwelld on follopwing lines (1) POTA was there still so and so blast happened... This point is so moronic that I start giggling.. Yes NAMo put it aptly desppite law agaisnt stealing stealing happens despite law against murder murder happens so shoudl we drop those laws. Moreover because there was POTA the criminal in each and every of those incidents got nammed and justice was done it;s another matter UPA came and refused to deliver the final justice and likes of Afzal Gurur ihas become royal-Damaad. (2)POTA alone wud not do anythign. I tell these morons who said POTA alone will fix all problmes. We need modernaization of police, streamlinign of intelligence sharing. We also need use of federal agency for the purpose they have bene set up instead of vicitmizing those who are agisnt UPA like MAywati and making life easier for those who are with them like Mulayam and Lalu.

[triam]

The granddaddy of l POTA TADA , was abused to no ends by Jayalalitha, one of the opposing party leaders Vy Ko (short for y gopalaswami) was arrested under TADA.

[Guest dada_rocks]

The granddaddy of l POTA TADA ' date=' was abused to no ends by Jayalalitha, one of the opposing party leaders Vy Ko (short for y gopalaswami) was arrested under TADA.[/quote'] Vaiko does keep making statements supporting a banned terrorist organization just because India have decided to shwo middle finger and be a hypocrite when it comes to LTTE doesn;t make Vaiko's support legal.

[cowboysfan]

NIA?-they need to find a better name.the agency should be a feared one.

[Guest dada_rocks]

NIA?-they need to find a better name.the agency should be a feared one.

I protest that fearful name might drive fear in minority.. we are secular

[triam]

Vaiko does keep making statements supporting a banned terrorist organization just because India have decided to shwo middle finger and be a hypocrite when it comes to LTTE doesn;t make Vaiko's support legal.

Vaiko is not the only one in TN who does this, I think this happens because there has never been an unanimous and solid statement from the central government one way or the other regards to LTTE. Not a lot of tamilians even know that LTTE is a banned organization in India.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Vaiko is not the only one in TN who does this' date=' I think this happens because there has never been an unanimous and solid statement from the central government one way or the other regards to LTTE. Not a lot of tamilians even know that LTTE is a banned organization in India.[/quote'] That doesn;t make Vaiko's crime any lesser. Godo that jaylaltiha is populairzing the fact that LTTE is a banend terrorist organization through arresting Vaiko..