kumble_rocks Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 KR' date= whats the Muslim world's hypocrisy got anything to do with this? The FACT of the matter is, what Israel is doing right now in Palestine is systematic slaughter of innocent Palestinian lives. They say they wont stop until they have completely disabled Hamas' ability to fire Katusha rockets into Israeli settlements and border Israeli towns.. Thats just a ridiculous claim. They tried it in 2006, when they launched another series of attacks to hurt Hezbollah. It didnt work and Hezbollah is back to its old military strength. And the conditions Israel is putting forward to having a ceasefire is also unteneble. They want international observers posted in the Gaza - Egyptian border to prevent arms smuggling. No way will Hamas ever accept to it. How will an organization ever deprive itself the ability to strike at the enemy state? What Israel is doing now, by bombing Palestinian schools, hospitals and universities, is creating a completely new generation of radicalized Palestinians who will be more eager than ever to get their own back at Israel. Hamas should stop using civilians as Human Shield . How do you know that Hamas is not firing rockets from civilian residential areas. While I am not a big fan of Israel, the very fact that Hamas has systematically killed Palestinians who were favorable to Fateh party and Abbas clearly points out to the fact that these guys will stoop to any length to achieve their stated goal of destroying Israel. So , Israel would be justified to take out civilian targets. But , I am sympathetic to loss of lives, especially Palestinian women and children. But ,what else is the option out there ? Israel has to chose between rock and hard place.
Ram Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Hamas should stop using civilians as Human Shield . How do you know that Hamas is not firing rockets from civilian residential areas. While I am not a big fan of Israel' date=' the very fact that Hamas has systematically killed Palestinians who were favorable to Fateh party and Abbas clearly points out to the fact that these guys will stoop to any length to achieve their stated goal of destroying Israel. So , Israel would be justified to take out civilian targets. But , I am sympathetic to loss of lives, especially Palestinian women and children. But ,what else is the option out there ? Israel has to chose between rock and hard place.[/quote'] Of course the Hamas shouldnt use human shields.. Of course it shouldnt use schools and mosques to stack its missiles.. But what do you expect it to do? Roll out the white cloth and hold a peace-march? Hamas thinks having the ability to strike at Israel is an undeniable right for them. If tomorrow they disarm, whats the guarantee a right-wing Israel doesnt order another incursion into Gaza and create more settlements. Look, I aint trying to support Hamas or anything here. All I am saying, we should also look at the other side of the story before we go 'Oh, Its Israel's right to defend its citizens'... But I appreciate your balanced point of view.
kumble_rocks Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Of course the Hamas shouldnt use human shields.. Of course it shouldnt use schools and mosques to stack its missiles.. But what do you expect it to do? Roll out the white cloth and hold a peace-march? Hamas thinks having the ability to strike at Israel is an undeniable right for them. If tomorrow they disarm, whats the guarantee a right-wing Israel doesnt order another incursion into Gaza and create more settlements. Look, I aint trying to support Hamas or anything here. All I am saying, we should also look at the other side of the story before we go 'Oh, Its Israel's right to defend its citizens'... But I appreciate your balanced point of view. Palestinians should stop supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. And so should western world and the liberal elite mass. Their stated goal is complete annihilation of Israel and bring Islamic rule to Palestine governed by Sharia . I would loathe to endorse such a movement. The only solution that I can fore see is , moderate Palestinians go back to the drawing board with Israel and UN as a referee and workout a plan for separate nation forging Jerusalem. Agree 1967 borders and see if Israel agrees for Jerusalem autonomy like they had promised after the word war.
sandtest Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Hamas thinks having the ability to strike at Israel is an undeniable right for them. If tomorrow they disarm, whats the guarantee a right-wing Israel doesnt order another incursion into Gaza and create more settlements. Speaking like a true Jeehadi! Here is some facts for you. This war is STARTED by your beloved Hamas. With US intervention ISRAEL had previously committed in writing to "peace" process. Israel and Palestinian moderate leader Mahmoud Abbas had an agreement of TRUCE where both parties will maintain a ceasefire. This truce expired recently. Israel asked to renew. Given the new Hamas government -- who has stated policy that Israel has no right to co-exist -- rejected the truce. They started first by firing a few unguided random rockets. Ever wondered, why Israel is so worried about rocket firing?...It's not just rockets, it's a symbol upon which radical arabs thrive. If Hamas is allowed to be armed and thrive today, their support base will rapidly expand in arab world. Israel which has been reduced to be a minority community given decades of genicide, are fighting for their survival, understand? They have no problems with PA and Mahmoud Abbas/Arafat group. It's hamas which need to be disarmed.
Ram Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Palestinians should stop supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. And so should western world and the liberal elite mass. Their stated goal is complete annihilation of Israel and bring Islamic rule to Palestine governed by Sharia . I would loathe to endorse such a movement. The only solution that I can fore see is ' date=' moderate Palestinians go back to the drawing board with Israel and UN as a referee and workout a plan for separate nation forging Jerusalem. Agree 1967 borders and see if Israel agrees for Jerusalem autonomy like they had promised after the word war.[/quote'] Good post!
Ram Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 k,1/4 th the lunatic saffron brigade has arrived! Only a matter of time before the other members flood in to back their beloved comrade and his usual clueless gibberish.
sandtest Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Palestinians should stop supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. And so should western world and the liberal elite mass. Their stated goal is complete annihilation of Israel and bring Islamic rule to Palestine governed by Sharia . I would loathe to endorse such a movement. The only solution that I can fore see is ' date=' moderate Palestinians go back to the drawing board with Israel and UN as a referee and workout a plan for separate nation forging Jerusalem. Agree 1967 borders and see if Israel agrees for Jerusalem autonomy like they had promised after the word war.[/quote'] That is exactly what had been going on. Peace process between Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli government with involvement of USA were aimed at recognition of independent Palestinian state.Until Palestinians elected Hamas nutjobs. Alos PA and Mahmoud Abbas were given huge amount of money by USA and other groups for sutaining there government and Israel facilitated funding moderate groups in palestine, but they are corrupt lots. They gobbled up all the money and this helped only Hamas.
sandtest Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Until Jehadi scums are walking on earth supporting each and every terror act under the veil of liberalism, so called lunatic "saffron" and many such brigade are going to stay.!
Ram Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Well, its good that you atleast conceded that you guys are lunatic.. Thats a good first step.. Congrats!
sandtest Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Sadly but not surprising, there are hypocrite Jeehadi sympathisers and Hamas fans who have no honesty to even admit! PS: it's futile to educate a brainwashed teenager about history of Hindutva movement and it's origin.
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