DomainK Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Oh, the same eye drop that was discovered in powder form in the airport? Poor child. Blame it on that bloody Hakim. Link to comment
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Aasif is symptomatic of an excuse of a nation.. even otherwise sane individuals like pp veers into that sort of fanciful excuses when convenient..... Link to comment
THX_1138 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 because i always like rooting for the underdog, i will cheer for asif. since i have suffered allergies and asthama all my life, i know what it is like to inject steroids into your body not for the purpose of bigger biceps but because you want the problems to end. the steroids inflate your body like a balloon, your face ages years in a matter of days, your friends look at you as if you were a freak of nature and your limbs tremble. if indeed asif has suffered such ignominy all his life, then i feel sorry for him. but if he is deceptively trying to disguise a practice that can only be described as cheating with the veneer of vulnerability then i hope his punishment is severe. Link to comment
EnterTheVoid Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 The first two times he wriggles out because of his naiveness Now, he plays the sympathy vote. How much f ing nandrolone can end up in the system because of a few eye drops, assuming that he is telling the truth Link to comment
Rajan Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Indians are jealous of Asif, BCCI Conspiracy against Pak 1.Yes, Asif is innocent. he just had eye drops. no one has told him that he shud not take medicines with out getting clearance from the Team Doctors . 2. ok, even if some one from PCB lectured him after his first drug use, he has forgotten.he is not a literate person. 3.asif was in a hurry so he used eye drops with out checking the contents. he shud be pardoned. 4.Asif has nor done anything wrong. BCCI and IPL spiked his sample.he is innocent. BCCI shud compensate him and honour him. 5.asif is important for pakistan cricket. they need him badly.so, he shud be selected even if IPL bans him. screw IPL/bcci. 6.Indians do not have any good seamers and swing bolwers. they are jealous of Asif the magician.so, they are conspiring to blame him and ban him. he is a good person, u can check with his Hakeem. so, IPL jury shud immediately settle his payment and allow him to play for pak again........... (yes, the above is the various opinions expressed by some individuals who have great moral values and virtues .they hope Asif will be let off) i wish he gets banned for at least 3 years.he deserves it for all his lies. Link to comment
cochise Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 THX, The steroids you are using are most likely corticosteroids or their like which are catabolic steroids those that cause muscle loss instead of gain (you can confirm this...sometimes steroids with anabolics effects are used for asthma, but this the exception by my understanding)...whereas Nandrolone is an Anabolic steroid, causing muscle gain http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-catabolic-steroids.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone Clinical studies have shown it to be effective in treating anaemia, osteoporosis and some forms of neoplasia including breast cancer, and also acts as a progestin-based contraceptive. I don't think Asif suffers from any of these conditions or at least it has not been made public that he does have a condition that requires Nandrolone anabolic steroid treatment. Mohammad Asif, a Pakistani cricketer, has twice tested positive for Nandrolone. He first tested positive in a dope test, that PCB conducted on its own behalf just before the Champions Trophy in 2006 and was sent back home from India and for the second time has been confirmed tested positive for a banned substance during Indian Premier League (IPL), on July 14, 2008. However, if the doctor has found that the eye-drops do contain the steroid, then it is within the realms of possibility that that is how his levels were elevated. I suppose only a medical panel can determine if the levels detected could be caused by eye-drops. Link to comment
EnterTheVoid Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 1.Yes, Asif is innocent. he just had eye drops. no one has told him that he shud not take medicines with out getting clearance from the Team Doctors . 2. ok, even if some one from PCB lectured him after his first drug use, he has forgotten.he is not a literate person. 3.asif was in a hurry so he used eye drops with out checking the contents. he shud be pardoned. 4.Asif has nor done anything wrong. BCCI and IPL spiked his sample.he is innocent. BCCI shud compensate him and honour him. 5.asif is important for pakistan cricket. they need him badly.so, he shud be selected even if IPL bans him. screw IPL/bcci. 6.Indians do not have any good seamers and swing bolwers. they are jealous of Asif the magician.so, they are conspiring to blame him and ban him. he is a good person, u can check with his Hakeem. so, IPL jury shud immediately settle his payment and allow him to play for pak again........... (yes, the above is the various opinions expressed by some individuals who have great moral values and virtues .they hope Asif will be let off) i wish he gets banned for at least 3 years.he deserves it for all his lies. This is absolute utter crap. This evidence is so damning and these nitwits are getting their excuses in order before the verdict is even delivered. What kind of nut pot medical expert did he hire anyway? If the IPL jury buys this nonsense, than everyone on that board should be shot Drug cheats in any professional sport are frowned upon for bring disgrace / shame / humiliation to their country, with the doping agencies going even as far as revoking their medals. Who the f does Asif think he is? God's gift to Pakistani cricket? Why is he getting so many chances? Link to comment
THX_1138 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 THX, The steroids you are using are most likely corticosteroids or their like which are catabolic steroids those that cause muscle loss instead of gain (you can confirm this...sometimes steroids with anabolics effects are used for asthma, but this the exception by my understanding)...whereas Nandrolone is an Anabolic steroid, causing muscle gain http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-catabolic-steroids.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone I don't think Asif suffers from any of these conditions or at least it has not been made public that he does have a condition that requires Nandrolone anabolic steroid treatment. However, if the doctor has found that the eye-drops do contain the steroid, then it is within the realms of possibility that that is how his levels were elevated. I suppose only a medical panel can determine if the levels detected could be caused by eye-drops. well then, we might actually witness him receive justice. i guess it is settled... the eye drops business is all lies... Link to comment
DomainK Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 The panel dealing with the case is no fool. Any athlete can produce these excuses after getting caught. No one is going to say "Yes, I was cheating.". They will produce excuses. Asif has already produced half a dozen and that itself shows that he is fibbing. BTW is that what took so long for him and his lawyer to produce? They have been asking for extensions to produce this? Link to comment
Mr. Wicket Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Even if it was the eye drops: Why did this excuse suddenly come up *now* and not earlier? If it was legit, Asif/doctors/etc would have explained it this way the moment the issue of Asif being a filthy drug-taking cheating scumbag came up. Instead they've gone through various other excuses and denials, then suddenly reached at this excuse. Sounds like clutching at straws, and a dose of complete BS. Link to comment
veer Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 why are we even talking?? he is a joke... Link to comment
riya Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 For pakistan it is always every one else's fault .How they are such innocent victims of the whole world cruelty. Be it terrorism or be it in cricket . Akhtar and Asif taking nandrolene.It is all ICCs fault. Now it is IPLs fault . Will they ever commit any thing wrong . Link to comment
umpire Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 >Will they ever commit any thing wrong . Yes And World Ends Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Its is quite a co-incidence that his eye drops made him test positive for the same substance which he tested positive for 2 years before (no eye-drops were mentioned then). Alos, another member of his team had tested positive for the same substance. Also, can ny eye-drops cause Nandrolene levels to shoot so higher than normal? Link to comment
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Me too' date=' if your include the stats of east pakistan also. :hysterical::hysterical:[/quote'] or start from post-shakur rana days Link to comment
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 But point is why this is taking so long ..bloody ban the git and move on Link to comment
kablooee87 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 But point is why this is taking so long ..bloody ban the git and move on Exactly. I'm still not sure what the hold up is. This should have been taken care of months ago. Link to comment
Nash Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Shoib akhar -- a throw bowler Asif - charshi wasim /waqar - good but cheater:finger: sab sale papi durgun khiladi waha bhare pade hai Link to comment
Macj Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Asif is a classic case of one who thinks if he acts a fool he can get away with anything. How stupid do you have to be to go from the Hakeem excuse to eyedrops then stop there blame the BCCI and then come back to the eyedrops. Link to comment
Nash Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 And overall stats b/w Pakistan and India is what I like. :two_thumbs_up: (Not sure about stats thought..i am lazy to go on cricinfo statguru so all are my estimation..) Test pak won 12 india won 10 --------- Pak was playing with 13 player including 2 empier One day.... India has win percentage around 42 and pak has 65 or something. It goes 1 plus point for pak. But in world cup, you sucks ... 7 - 0 ...... ODI's most imp WC matches you lost. india 1 plus T20 - india alrady had 1 plus point .. All over..take a chill pill:finger: about history. Link to comment
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