fineleg Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Hindu editor N. Ram and many others participating in NDTV - going on now. on atrocities going on in SRI LANKA http://www.ndtv.com/news/world/fleeing_tamils_recount_tales_of_horror_from_warzone.php This is going LIVE debate on NDTV channel. sorry to post in IPL forum, but folks are I guess waiting for cricket and reading this forum now, so you can move this to Politics after sometime, thx.
graphic23 Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 And that guy from DMK - what an *******. Pro-Ealam? Go eff yourself.
fineleg Posted April 25, 2009 Author Posted April 25, 2009 graphic, why do you say go eff yourself? i dont support what that DMK guy is saying. First know what my views are before shooting off your hip. You have become a nut case who jumps to conclusion before understanding what people views are :finger: I dont support ltte. Hindu editor N. Ram says it right. There is a distinction between civilians and terrorists, and somehow you dont get that into your head.
graphic23 Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 um, I was saying go eff yourself to that guy. But you can ramble with your bullshit and how Tamilians are dying and we must save Tamil people and **** like that. I have so many Sri Lankan friends here who are afraid to go to their own country because they might killed. What if the same happened to you? And again, the SL army isn't killing the Tamil civilians for fun, its an expense they have to pay to get rid of whats plaguing their nation - and remember, the Tamil civilans are not citizens of India, but citizens of SL - so it is the SL govt's duty to protect them, and the army is doing the best it can to minimize the civilian casualties. It might seem heartless or whatever but this is an expense they have to pay - they cannot let Prabhakaran and his followers get powerful again. It will be terrible if that happens. They've been plagued of peace in that country. Cricket teams that have visited SL in the past have had to use choppers to travel from one place to another - and recently, we could only play in Premadasa and nowhere else. You know why that is?
fineleg Posted April 25, 2009 Author Posted April 25, 2009 what is BS? The UN report on genocide in Sri Lanka esp. is BS?? It is a fact that civilians have been killed in thousands in Sri Lanka...read what is going on first. And also read UN report, and other reports on BBC etc. so it is the SL govt's duty to protect them It is the SL govt duty to protect them, they have been doing the opposite for many many years. I think you have no clue on how horrible a treatment Tamil civilians as SL citizens have been treated worse than third class citizens in Sri Lanka. Women and children have not been spared. Even women have been sterilized so they cannot have babies (this is in War-Free zones) - are women animals or what? Again, there is a difference between LTTE and civilians.
Guest Gunner Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 It might seem heartless or whatever but this is an expense they have to pay - they cannot let Prabhakaran and his followers get powerful again. It will be terrible if that happens. They've been plagued of peace in that country. I don't necessarily agree with this statement. The whole concept of LTTE and Tamils are a Sri Lankan problem is fundamentally flawed. It is a proxy war which we "India" are losing fast. Its a rather myopic foreign policy view to ignore this.
graphic23 Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I don't necessarily agree with this statement. The whole concept of LTTE and Tamils are a Sri Lankan problem is fundamentally flawed. It is a proxy war which we "India" are losing fast. Its a rather myopic foreign policy view to ignore this. I'm not saying ignore it, mate. I'm saying don't make comments such as 'SL army is more dangerous than LTTE to the Tamil civilians of SL' (like our esteemed ex-finance minister was doing). The tamils that live in SL trace back to India (quite obviously) but they've been there a few generations, and for practical purposes, they are Sri Lankan civilians - not Indians anymore. What bothers is me is that people are saying that this is a genocide that the Sri Lankan Sinhalese population is perpetrating against the Tamilians. I just don't agree to that. I think they're trying to minimize the civilian casualties. LTTE is a terrorist organization. They've been troubling Sri Lanka for such a long time, and killing innocent people. What is unfortunate is that they are living amongst Tamil villages and the SL army cannot capture their camps without some loss of civilian lives. I think its a price that has to be paid for longterm peace in Sri Lanka. I've heard/seen (on TV)/read a lot of the Tamil civilians are also backing the SL govt. So it is unfair for the Indian govt. to ask the Sri Lankans to stop now when they're so close to capturing Prabhakaran and eliminating a problem that has plagued them. To the comment that it would be myopic to ignore this problem, I guess you can claim the Gandhi in SA episode, where he fought against racial discrimination despite not being a South Africa, etc. That is fine. If the Tamil Nadu govt. does really care about the civilian casualties (and they do have an emotional attachment due to the ancestry - which is fair enough), then set up organizations who go there and are helping the people there. Don't ask the Indian govt. to interfere in a civil war of sorts, which will only make us the bad guys, and they can always claim that India did strengthen (to some extent) the LTTE movement in SL (unfortunately).
veeru_rocks Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 If you take arms state is duty bound to use arms and casualty happens....... Have no sympathy whatsoever for these LTTE idiots
fineleg Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 i dont think any ICFer has sympathy for ltte. there is sympathy for civilians only.
punjabi_khota Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I would have sympathy for LTTE if M.I.A lets me hump her.
veeru_rocks Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 i dont think any ICFer has sympathy for ltte. there is sympathy for civilians only. Phir ye sympathy mujra har post mein kyun ho raha hai
Guest Gunner Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Phir ye sympathy mujra har post mein kyun ho raha hai Maslah ye hai ke aapke samaj mein ye baat nahi aa rahi hai ki wahan ke tamil log aur LTTE ke darmayan kya farak hai. Doosri baat ye hai ki fineleg ke jazbat ko mujra ka naam dena uchit nahi. Agar aap ko abhi bi samaj nahi aayi tho I will do a more detailed post. Finally, Sri Lanka is a foreign policy disaster for India. We should have more control over the neighbhorhood.
veeru_rocks Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Maslah ye hai ke aapke samaj mein ye baat nahi aa rahi hai ki wahan ke tamil log aur LTTE ke darmayan kya farak hai. Doosri baat ye hai ki fineleg ke jazbat ko mujra ka naam dena uchit nahi. Agar aap ko abhi bi samaj nahi aayi tho I will do a more detailed post. Finally, Sri Lanka is a foreign policy disaster for India. We should have more control over the neighbhorhood. Don't we hear similar nonsense from pakistan viz a viz kashmir We should have less control who the hell are we to control our neighbourhood.. help them aid them but this poking in their business with a view to control things must stop
veeru_rocks Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JyHEoYIEEM&feature=related]YouTube - A debate on Godhra riots case & Modi - Part 2[/ame]
veeru_rocks Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hA7xr3TARw&feature=related]YouTube - A debate on Godhra riots case & Modi - Part 3[/ame] Subrhamanyam Swami exposing LTTE propgandist
Guest Gunner Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Don't we hear similar nonsense from pakistan viz a viz kashmir We should have less control who the hell are we to control our neighbourhood.. help them aid them but this poking in their business with a view to control things must stop I don't care what Pakistan's stand on Kashmir is. I say we deny Pakistan any chance in Kashmir and also continue to stay involved in Sri Lanka. That is dominance if you don't understand the concept. You make the rules. Who are we to control our neighbhourhood? - Read the Arthashastra or any Political treatise and you will learn why.
Kohum Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Maslah ye hai ke aapke samaj mein ye baat nahi aa rahi hai ki wahan ke tamil log aur LTTE ke darmayan kya farak hai. Doosri baat ye hai ki fineleg ke jazbat ko mujra ka naam dena uchit nahi. Agar aap ko abhi bi samaj nahi aayi tho I will do a more detailed post. Finally, Sri Lanka is a foreign policy disaster for India. We should have more control over the neighbhorhood. Please do elaborate, your understanding.
Guest Gunner Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Please do elaborate' date=' your understanding.[/quote'] Pretty simple, it is the same difference as between the jihadis and kashmiris.
fineleg Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 For reference - the video of the debate is located here: http://www.ndtv.com/news/videos/video_player.php?id=1091390
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