The Outsider Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 If you see it this way then all I can say is we agree to disagree. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest the Srikkanth is biased. Then why don't you give some reasons as to how the selection of Vijay over Kohli - which is exactly what happened, arguments like both should have been there are clearly not valid - is justified? Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Srikanth is a biased selector.Last time he picked up Balaji who was out of international cricket for more than 3 years.And we all saw what balaji delivered.All srikanth wants is more players from his home state Tamil Nadu regardless of their quality. First of all I don't know what you are blabbering about balaji, the guy played a dead rubber game and bowlsed 5 overs and gave 32 runs and he has not been picked for the Indian team since. So your point? And honestly all this talk about quality is hilarious considering the quality of Raina, Jadeja et al. Let us not try to fool around by mouthing platitudes about quality. Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 And that series exposed Australia's weaknesses against spin. Sorry, that happened a long time ago. Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Then why don't you give some reasons as to how the selection of Vijay over Kohli - which is exactly what happened' date=' arguments like both should have been there are clearly not valid - is justified?[/quote'] MUHAHAHAHAHA.... I am amazed. I accuse you of being a ***** and then ask you to prove that you are not. This is exactly what you are doing. You are asking me to justify a position I never took in the first place. This is intellectually bankrupt, I am sorry. Link to comment
Ram Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I dont see Irfan's name in there, has he been dropped too? And What are Badrinath and Vijay doing in the squad? :hmmm: Link to comment
Guest gaurav_indian Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I dont see Irfan's name in there, has he been dropped too? And What are Badrinath and Vijay doing in the squad? :hmmm: Irfan and Raina dropped.Sachin,sehwag and Zaheer rested. Link to comment
graphic23 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'm sorry Gunner but given the opportunities, Virat has done brilliantly. Maybe he didn't have the greatest of IPLs but there was no reason to drop him from this tour or the New Zealand tour. If anything, Virat deserved a place above Rohit as well. And he was making centuries in domestic cricket as a matter of routine. As its been mentioned several times, he played very well against the Sri Lankan spinner when our guys weren't able to handle him at all. I think it was a pretty simple decision. Kohli has opened for India in Sehwag's absence before. Don't see why its not possible again. He's also played in the middle order in the domestics. He's a very versatile player as far as that is concerned. Link to comment
vipin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 It seems the older people have been preferred over the young ones. And i think its fair becaause the young ones will have plenty of chances to succeed but the oldies need to be given their chance while they are at their peak and conclusively decided weather they are fit or unfit for international cricket. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 MUHAHAHAHAHA.... I am amazed. I accuse you of being a ***** and then ask you to prove that you are not. This is exactly what you are doing. You are asking me to justify a position I never took in the first place. This is intellectually bankrupt' date=' I am sorry.[/quote'] It's pretty simple from where I am looking at it - there is one spot up for grabs. Kohli and Vijay are in contention for it, but Vijay gets it even though all cricketing reasons point towards Kohli being the more deserving candidate. Now I am asking you to give me some reasons why you think Vijay deserves it more than Kohli - you are giving none and accusing me of intellectual bankruptcy. Again, why do you think Vijay deserves to be in the squad ahead of Kohli? Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I dont see Irfan's name in there, has he been dropped too? And What are Badrinath and Vijay doing in the squad? :hmmm: Don't think Irfan was in our previous few ODI squads either. And don't dare question the selection of Badrinath and Vijay because then you'll be accused of being intellectually bankrupt and racist. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Irfan and Raina dropped.Sachin' date='sehwag and Zaheer rested.[/quote'] Raina has some finger injury it seems. Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'm sorry Gunner but given the opportunities' date=' Virat has done brilliantly. Maybe he didn't have the greatest of IPLs but there was no reason to drop him from this tour or the New Zealand tour. If anything, Virat deserved a place above Rohit as well. And he was making centuries in domestic cricket as a matter of routine. As its been mentioned several times, he played very well against the Sri Lankan spinner when our guys weren't able to handle him [i']at all. I think it was a pretty simple decision. Kohli has opened for India in Sehwag's absence before. Don't see why its not possible again. He's also played in the middle order in the domestics. He's a very versatile player as far as that is concerned. I am having some difficulties understanding why everyone is constantly justifying the performance of Kohli, I have not negated that at all. In fact I provided the figures to prve that the guy averages 50 in List A. My point is this is the kind of series in which you would normally have given both the lads a chance, not one or the other. There was no reason to drop Kohli and none not to select Vijay. Link to comment
bharat297 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think one of the main reasons they went with Vijay is, in the absence of 2 specialist openers (Sachin and Sehwag), they wanted a technically sound opening batsman comfortable against the new ball. Vijay has a pretty good one day record so I think its a good selection actually. I would not have picked Jadeja though. He seemed totally and utterly out of his depth in international cricket. Kohli should have been picked over Jadeja. Link to comment
Shane Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Maybe he didn't have the greatest of IPLs He did well for us at the IPL, with the limited oppurtunities he got batting lower down, he won us the game against CSK in the round robin and played a cameo in the semis too. He wouldnt have much of his stats to show for, but he was influential on the field and did OK with the ball at times, He was an asset for RCB. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 its obvious the the reason they picked Vijay was to be a replacement opener in case of an injury to gautam or rohit.we dont really have anybody who can open on this squad.you have to remember we lost 2 openers in viru and sachin.he will not see any action unless we are up 3-0-stop squabbling. Link to comment
vipin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I agree with Bharat that Vijay has been included as a specialist backup opener , should rohit fail. Virat Kohli is a middle order batsman , and we dont have any other batsmna who could just slot into the opener role without any difficulty. Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 It's pretty simple from where I am looking at it - there is one spot up for grabs. Kohli and Vijay are in contention for it, but Vijay gets it even though all cricketing reasons point towards Kohli being the more deserving candidate. Now I am asking you to give me some reasons why you think Vijay deserves it more than Kohli - you are giving none and accusing me of intellectual bankruptcy. Again, why do you think Vijay deserves to be in the squad ahead of Kohli? Ok, if there was one spot up for grabs. Kohli was given an opportunity he has already proved his capable. Now Vijay is being test as an alternative for increased bench strength. I am not going to justify Vijay deserves it more than Kohli since I never took that position. Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 And don't dare question the selection of Badrinath and Vijay because then you'll be accused of being intellectually bankrupt and racist. Its a question how you present something. The way some of the guys presented their position was obnoxious. I absolutely don't recall having called you racist. We have a disagreement and from where I see it we are having a pretty civil debate. If you feel hurt by me calling you intellectually bankrupt I can guarantee that you will be very badly hurt if you had to have a public debate. Link to comment
Zap_Brannigan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 The fk u fks are fking about. Murali vijay was in the squad the last time we played test match as a replacement opener. Without either Sehwag and Sachin, and with only 1 opener in Gambhir, obviously Murali vijay was chosen as the replacement opener. Do you really want nohit Sharma to open again? Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 The fk u fks are fking about. Murali vijay was in the squad the last time we played test match as a replacement opener. Without either Sehwag and Sachin, and with only 1 opener in Gambhir, obviously Murali vijay was chosen as the replacement opener. Do you really want nohit Sharma to open again? ofcourse-he hs done nothing to dissuade me from that notion-i think he will do very well in the caribbean. Link to comment
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