shailesh Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 rediff is doing a good feature on 35 anniversary of 1971 war. http://ia.rediff.com/news/bangla06.html here is to salute our brave heroes :salute: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war :wtg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiChap Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war :wtg: excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest dada_rocks Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war :wtg: BTW what's wrong with cowardice I thik it's equally commendable virtue and if u want end of wars around the world hail the cowards and knock the braves of their pedestal. :hic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war :shotgun: :ninja: :camper: :assault: Don't mess with India! Long live MOTHER INDIA! Respect to the brave Indian soldiers who put their ass on the line despite ch_tyagiri of our politicians. :shotgun: :ninja: :camper: :assault: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war jai hind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest dada_rocks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war Excerpts from the account of Captain Anil Athale, 1971 POW Within a fortnight I was shifted to Rawalpindi jail and lodged in the maximum security cells meant for condemned prisoners. To prevent prisoners from committing suicide, these cells had high ceilings and nothing inside. By now the air raids had stopped, and I could guess that the war was over. While I was in solitary confinement in my cell, I would often hear noises from other prison barracks. Every now and then the prisoners there would shout slogans like 'Pakistan Murdabad', 'Indira Gandhi Zindabad' and 'General Arora Zindabad.' Who were these people? Finally, after repeated queries, a sentry told me they were 'those **** Baluchis'. Apparently, during the war, there were processions and protests in Baluchistan against Pakistani rule, and many Baluch leaders were jailed. Is the situation much different today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war Some more There were seven of us officers and around 600 jawans held in Lyallpur. The highest ranking Indian officer was a major. I was then a captain and the third seniormost, with just three years service. Against that, Pakistan had close to 93,000 prisoners in India, including many generals. The Pakistani behaviour towards the Indians was correct, gentlemanly and courteous to a fault. Many Pakistanis shared their happiness that their soldiers were in Indian army custody and not in Bangladeshi captivity. They also expressed their happiness that they were rid of Bangladesh, which they described as a burden, and warned us that soon we would regret having created it. In some ways, it was a prophetic remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war SOME MORE man it's eye opener.. All armies have their peculiar internal dynamics. While in the Indian army the 'working class' is essentially the junior officers, lieutenants, captains and majors, in Pakistan it is their NCOs (Non Commissioned Officers) like naiks and havaldars (like the US Army, that is run by their sergeants). The Pakistani NCOs then were well educated, motivated and had lots of initiative. In our army, close to a third of NCOs end up as officers through the in-service route. I once asked a particularly bright Pakistani NCO why he did not try for commission as officer. His reply was revealing. 'In Pakistan,' he said, 'to become officer you have to have an 'Uncle'!' In a sense that situation seems to prevail even today. There is a oft repeated story about how Pakistani prisoners in India told our officers that they would prefer to fight under them. This is the same story we heard in Pakistan under very different circumstances. The same NCO told us that 'Sir, our jawans and your officers, together we can conquer the world.' We, of course, told them that we prefer our own jawans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war In 1972, possibly as a part of psychological war, the Indians started a programme of daily broadcasts by Pakistani PoWs to tell their family about their well-being. Not to be left behind, Radio Pakistan began a similar exercise, and their team came to Lyallpur to record our messages. We were given a piece of paper with lines to read out. 'We surrendered to Pakistan and are being treated well here,' it said. Images: The Road to Dhaka When my turn came I refused, saying I had never surrendered to the Pakistani army, I was captured. There is indeed a world of difference between a ceremonial laying down of arms (as the Pakistanis did in Bangladesh) and being captured in battle. The latter does not involve the trauma or the humiliation of the former. When the Radio Pakistan man insisted, I told him I would rather do without the message, since in any case information about my being alive had already been sent to my family through the Red Cross. The infuriated Pakistani official then warned me that there was no guarantee Aaj hai to kal nahin (You are alive today but who can be sure of tomorrow?).' Enraged by this comment, I replied: 'Do not worry, I have an insurance of 93,000 !' This provoked the man to lunge at me, before he was restrained by Pakistani soldiers. Finally the camp commandant arrived and told me that if I had objections then my message would not be broadcast. The matter did not end there. Seeing my example, all the Indian jawans who had come for the recording also refused to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war Finally rant of AA Niazi.. [ sounds like some chumps don't appreciate 71 war stories so I wud wrap it up for the time being] Q. Don't you think that the time has come for India and Pakistan to shun their differences and enter into a peace dialogue for the betterment of the masses? Niazi:We should never trust India. Successive Indian governments have never reconciled to the idea of a strong Pakistan and have always tried to weaken our country. Previous records show that India has always damaged Pakistan. Whenever they get a chance in future, they would never spare Pakistan. Even now in Kashmir, India has more than hundreds of thousands of troops, killing innocent Muslims in the name of fighting militants. Even otherwise, Pakistan cannot enter into a peace dialogue with India until and unless the latter gives a commitment to resolve the Kashmir dispute in accordance with United Nations resolutions. Q. If given a chance, would you like to play a role in the ongoing diplomatic efforts for a peaceful settlement of the Kashmir dispute? Niazi: No. I would rather prefer to be even with India. Though I am too old to fight now, I am still ready to command Pakistani troops in Jammu and Kashmir to fight Indian troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war India should never have gotten themselves into this conflict in the first place... :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailesh Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war I think our adventure in Sri Lanka was even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war India should never have gotten themselves into this conflict in the first place... :wall: Nope, there was way too much genocide going on and if you wanna be a superpower and your archenemy is doing that right on your border, it's only stupid not to do something. It was a great move and superb victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war Nope' date=' there was way too much genocide going on and if you wanna be a superpower and your archenemy is doing that right on your border, it's only stupid not to do something. [/quote'] It was the Banglastanis' problem, not India's. Hence it was senseless to meddle in their affairs. India wasn't under any direct threat from Pak, AFAIK ? What did India gain from this stupid war anyway ? Banglastan is a rogue, third world sh*thole - to put it mildly. It's officially the most corrupt nation on earth, and is soon evolving into an Islamic cesspit - a haven for terrorists and mullahs who want to preach hatred against the West (and India). They don't acknowledge India's contributions to their liberation struggle and now they remain more ignorant than ever about their gory past - when Pakistanis would wipe out Banglas back in the '60's. Had India gained a long-time ally from the war, then it could have been justified. However, over the course of the last decade - with heightened ISI activity taking place, Banglastan has become as big an enemy as Pakistan. Back in '71, India should have just closed their borders, driven out all the Banglastani refugees and made the f*ckers fend for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war You guys are misinformed. Open hostility was initiated by pakistan india was happy providing those proverbial moral support. read the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war It was the Banglastanis' problem, not India's. Hence it was senseless to meddle in their affairs. India wasn't under any direct threat from Pak, AFAIK ? What did India gain from this stupid war anyway ? Banglastan is a rogue, third world sh*thole - to put it mildly. It's officially the most corrupt nation on earth, and is soon evolving into an Islamic cesspit - a haven for terrorists and mullahs who want to preach hatred against the West (and India). They don't acknowledge India's contributions to their liberation struggle and now they remain more ignorant than ever about their gory past - when Pakistanis would wipe out Banglas back in the '60's. Had India gained a long-time ally from the war, then it could have been justified. However, over the course of the last decade - with heightened ISI activity taking place, Banglastan has become as big an enemy as Pakistan. Back in '71, India should have just closed their borders, driven out all the Banglastani refugees and made the f*ckers fend for themselves. Yes it was Bangladesh's problem, but let me say it again, you NOT be a superpower unless you act like one. And yes, Bangladesh is becoming another Afghanistan and again one of the main reasons is just that, Indian govts didn't influence them enough economically and politically. I suppose it was inevitable anyway given the muslim mentality, but it's much better than having pakistan on two sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Re: 35th anniversary of 1971 war Just to sum it up, you can NOT be a superpower being a good boy. Take a wild guess why India will never be as powerful as China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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