Aqua Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 ONE WOMAN'S STORY ON SOYA...All Males-PLEASE pass this info to ALL your female friends... It may save their lives! Something to take note of. This is my true story, nothing altered. These are facts, as they relate to my experience, my opinions based on what I have read and felt. I am relating them to warn other young health-conscious women who are unwittingly harming themselves. In 1989, I graduated from high school in Texas and couldn't wait to hit the big college city. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat healthier. Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body with the best and healthiest foods I could find. Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk almost every day used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soybeans, soybean, sprouts, etc. All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer. It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all the time, but my menstrual cycle was off. At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual cycle. In addition to this I began to suffer from painful periods. I began to get puffy, it was as though I was losing my muscle tone. I began to suffer from depression and getting hot flashes. I mistook all this for PMS since my periods were irregular. By the time I was 25, my periods were so bad, I couldn't walk. The birth control pills never made them regular or less painful so I decided to stop taking them. I went on like this for another two years until I realized my pain wasn't normal. At 27, my gynecologist found two cysts in my uterus. Both were the size of tennis balls. I went through surgery to have them removed and thank God they were benign. The gynecologist told me to go back on birth control pills. I didn't. In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery and again it was benign. In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums became inflamed. Thinking I had a tooth infection I went to the dentist who told me that teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling still did not go down. At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my neck. I told my mother I had thyroid trouble. She thought I was being silly. No one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw a specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinoma. After a series of tests he told me it was cancer. My fiance and I sat stunned. We were not prepared and I was so scared. We scheduled surgery right away. The specialist told us that it would only be after the operation that a pathologist would be able to tell us for sure if it was cancer. They found a tumor at my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another smaller tumor growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed. They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be safe and assured me that I could live a long life. After treatment I began to search for the cause of all these problems. I never once thought it could be all the soya I had consumed for nearly ten years. After all, soya is healthy. I came upon a web page that linked thyroid problems to soya intake and the conspiracy of soya marketed as a health food when in fact it is only a toxic by-product of the vegetable oil industry. This was insane, after all, the health and fitness magazines had said nothing about soya being harmful. I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985. She informed me that soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due to cysts and other uterine problems. A few months later another acquaintance who had consumed soya came down with thyroid cancer. A girl in England I met through the Internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone surgery and she was only 19. What was going on? Breast cancer is linked to estrogen. What mimics estrogen in the female body, SOYA! But I never suspected soya because until now I never once found a single article that stated soya could be dangerous. Women who took soya prior to thyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not aware of what soya actually does, what it contains and how it reacts in the female body. I think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer often develop breast cancer later. My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warned her to stay off soya. I referred her to websites but until it is on the evening news on all four networks, women will suffer. Since the thyroidectomy, I do not touch soya, haven't for two years. Dear readers, Please use my story in any way you can. There are so many young girls who are consuming soya because they think they are taking care of themselves, and women taking soya because they want to be healthy. It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of soya isn't more widely circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who feel this way and it is a terrible blow when you realize you are not as healthy as you thought and that the information that you depended on was wrong. Here are some references: http://www.netlink.de/gen/Zeitung/2000/000813.html http://www.biotech-info.net/soya.html http://www.haelan.co.uk/Wholefood-Soya.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailesh Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females how reliable are all these sources? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females no idea but this aint the first time i'm hearing of this... so i suppose it is best keeping soya usage to a limit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females i thought this piece of information was common-place, nice piece nevertheless...my wife will never touch soya stuff and tofu may be once in a bluemoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females good for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aditi Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females Great...I just bought myself some soy milk, because I've recently become lactose intolerant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females lately, i have been getting these news.... i believe, corporate america is behind this.... there is a silent and slow wave of vegetarianism coming up in US and the corporates have billions of money invested in livestock and poultry.... Soy is the center of this vegetarian wave.... and an obvious target... The asians have been living off Soy for centuries.... it is used in desserts, sauce, milk.... they seem fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females good pnt... chinese especially... but aint it good to be on the safe side? Especially since ppl nowadays use alot of chemicals etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females i doubt, if they use as many chemicals as in meat, Aqua.... antibiotics, hormones and wat not... they pump phosphates in chicken to make the meat juicier or something like thtt too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females yup... chemicals in meat... in chicken it is injected into the neck or the wing... this also not healthy for both men and women... wounds do not heal... so ceasarian, abortions etc is dangerous... miscarriages also can happen.. In men, secondary female characteristics can emerge etc.. it is better not to eat neck and wings... also in other animals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females >>>>Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk almost every day used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soybeans, soybean, sprouts, etc. This lady needs to learn the meaning of "moderation"...... Even too much of oxygen is bad... Drink too much water and see how it effects you.... How can you not expect side effects from eating something in excess that effects the hormones in the body......? I am sorry....but too much of a good thing is also bad.... Instead of hitting the panic button....the lady needs to start thinking before she accepts everything written in books at face value..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females >>>>I think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer often develop breast cancer later. My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warned her to stay off soya. It's iresponsible to make such assumptions based on paranoia....and without much proof.... The lady has been binging on soya products for ten yrs....... I am sure no one advocates an exclusivel soya diet....what happened to the concept of balanced diet .... People have been eating soya in china and japan for ages...i guess they must be using common sense too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females I also feel that the meat industry/corporate America is behind this. These rumours have been going on and on for ages. The first post does not show or prove anything. Just a nutty lady on a crusade for living an unhealthy lifestyle. These days people can start any kind of ball rolling. Excess of anything is bad. That said I think I need to get a packet of Pringles LOL http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/263033.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/701819.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2097053.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3754309.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hampshire/3707088.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4285910.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailesh Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females lately, i have been getting these news.... i believe, corporate america is behind this.... there is a silent and slow wave of vegetarianism coming up in US and the corporates have billions of money invested in livestock and poultry.... Soy is the center of this vegetarian wave.... and an obvious target... The asians have been living off Soy for centuries.... it is used in desserts, sauce, milk.... they seem fine... my first thought too..incidently I was recently browsing through a book called "fast food nation" and the stakes in live stock/meat industry are HUGE..so no wonder if more of this sh*t keeps coming. btw the topic on how slaugher houses work makes you sick, not just the conditions of animals but also the humans who operate under those conditions and how they are exploited etc, unsurprisingly most are poor immigrants. I now firmly believe that by being a veggie I'm not only doing my bit for nature and the animals but also for fellow human beings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females I've been eating soya quite regularly for so long, it's just rubbish, sorry to say, and radhika is right, too much of anything is bad, very basic common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females Daily consumption of Soya creates havoc for ladies, males need not worry (You might develope A-cup size breast but ceertainly won't increase ur chances to get cancer:-), ). I think there is enough data available to back this premise. Well medical research always comes with some element of doubt but that's its nature given the kind of complex system they are dealing with so definitive answer you will never get. BTW it's not excessive consumption if u change ur normal milk intake to soya milk u are more likely to run into trouble as a girl. Article doesn't say she was on Soya only diet, just normal daily consumption. Chinese/Japanese have been eating no doubt but you can't see it in isolation they particualrly chinese approach their diet as medicine and they may be compensating this by some other dietary habits who knows. Then there is genetic makeup based on the region. This is so complex, but in north america there certainly has been seen a correlation between daily soya intake and occurrence of cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk almost every day used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soybeans, soybean, sprouts, etc. All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer. It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all the time, but my menstrual cycle was off. At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual cycle. It is all for the mad rush for proteins. No one likes the taste of soya(atleast I have not met someone who does). But soya has been hyped as a leading source of protein, specially for woman. Men do not touch it because it is known to assist in growth of female harmones estrogen. If you follow any nutritional magazine they would not recommend soya for male, specially male who work out. People who do not have a meat based diet are handicapped for the protein part and they turn towards soya. Now it is clearly not a bad thing when taken in moderation but since it has direct link with female growth harmone secretion it is anybody's guess what it can do if taken too much. The problem with criticism of soya, as it is with pretty much any diet is two fold: 1) People who eat soya(specially vegetarians) would be up in arms accusing of conspiracy etc etc. It is futile to preach to a choir that has made up its mind for a variety of reason. 2) Dietary research are never conclusive. What is correct for a group of Caucasian subjects would not work on Chinese. And even within the same race new research almost always renders the old one futile. SO peanut was supposed to be bad before, now its a source of good fat and quality protein. That all being said I dont let soya enter my diet unless as a last resort(most of the energy bars today contain soya). Wouldnt want to take chances developing those A-cups as DR has correctly mentioned up above. xxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females Not everything is good for everybody. DUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Re: Dangers of Soya...must read for all females BTW Soya leaf is very good for LDL reduction and HDL augmentation you can go bonkers on that there are no worries and it even tastes yummy :wtg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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