MundaPakistani Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani MP , honest question for you , How can people of SE Asian people be so passionate about Islam ? After all , it's an alien religion for you guys more tuned with culture/practises of Arabs.To top it all , Arbas treat SE Asian people like Dirts and are pretty racist. Don't you think Sufism is the best option for you folks , instead of Sunni/Shia Philosophy. Kumble, We worship God and not the Arabs! Reading your post it seems that you feel that the Arabs are supposedly higher "ranked" Muslims and if you feel that then i am afraid you are mistaken.
Rohan495 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani would u still go to a gurudwara Munda Pakistani?
MundaPakistani Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani would u still go to a gurudwara Munda Pakistani? Not specifically, actually i have been to both a Church and a Hindu temple yet haven't had a chance to visit a gurudwara.
kumble_rocks Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani MP , honest question for you , How can people of SE Asian people be so passionate about Islam ? After all , it's an alien religion for you guys more tuned with culture/practises of Arabs.To top it all , Arbas treat SE Asian people like Dirts and are pretty racist. Don't you think Sufism is the best option for you folks , instead of Sunni/Shia Philosophy. Kumble, We worship God and not the Arabs! Reading your post it seems that you feel that the Arabs are supposedly higher "ranked" Muslims and if you feel that then i am afraid you are mistaken. MP , I don't consider Arabs higher ranking muslims. But they certainly do ! :hmph:
CC1981 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani MP , I don't consider Arabs higher ranking muslims. But they certainly do ! I will second that for the majority of arabs. Many many of them definitely see themselves as 'superior muslims'. This is actually one of the common grounds for the average iranian to get pissed off at the common arab folks there.
Gaurav Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani MP Wrote- PART-1...who are trying to work towards his own little agendas, these people don't care about me and you they just want to work towards their own agendas. The Holy book is suppose to have all the remedies of life so it's as simple and clear as you think because if that was the case then why do we have Muslim scholars? Look at Part-1 of your own text for answer :lmao:
Anakin Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani May be I missed your answer, but would you mind answering 2 questions Do you think Islam is the perfect religion or the best religion and why, brief reasoning whether the answer is yes or no. Do you support everything md did or said? Is he the greatest man ever born or will ever be born?
King Tendulkar Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani Still no answers. Looks like posters like MP want to duck the questions they dont like and then preach how no one understands their religion
Sooda Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani May be I missed your answer, but would you mind answering 2 questions Do you think Islam is the perfect religion or the best religion and why, brief reasoning whether the answer is yes or no. Do you support everything md did or said? Is he the greatest man ever born or will ever be born? Yes to both. As for the first one. the Quran. Really is that simple- the challenge is for mankind to create anything like it. anything. think about it- how easy would it have been for the non muslim chiefs of Muhammads era to have created something sim ilar to the quran- if they can do it anyone could have- hence it is not Gods word- and Mohammed would have lost all credibility. When he was first bestowed with prophethood he had no followers and no support. It would have been too easy for the non mulsim enemy to rob him and Islam of all credibility. even later instead of fighting all those wars against him would it not have been far easier to write something like the quran and prove that it is not in fact Gods word...well, why didnt they... the fact remains that islam is the worlds fastest growing religion- people are turning AWAY from hindiusm in their 1000's because they are sick of its inherent racism...
Anakin Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani Yes to both. As for the first one. the Quran. Really is that simple- the challenge is for mankind to create anything like it. anything. think about it- how easy would it have been for the non muslim chiefs of Muhammads era to have created something sim ilar to the quran- if they can do it anyone could have- hence it is not Gods word- and Mohammed would have lost all credibility. When he was first bestowed with prophethood he had no followers and no support. It would have been too easy for the non mulsim enemy to rob him and Islam of all credibility. even later instead of fighting all those wars against him would it not have been far easier to write something like the quran and prove that it is not in fact Gods word...well, why didnt they... the fact remains that islam is the worlds fastest growing religion- people are turning AWAY from hindiusm in their 1000's because they are sick of its inherent racism...There CC, ask the same questions to every educated muslims you know, and the answer will be the same based on ignorance and lack of logical thinking. I'm sure you'll still find ways to blabber about blah blah blah :hic: @Sooda, as I said not very convincing reasoning if there is any at all, but will respond later from home. But it's so nice of you to defend the war crimes, pedophilia and so many things. Well done. Oh I didn't even mention lack of arithmatical knowledge of allah or craps of md like only allah knows the sex of unborn child till it's born. I'm sure it's very scientific and true
kumble_rocks Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani May be I missed your answer, but would you mind answering 2 questions Do you think Islam is the perfect religion or the best religion and why, brief reasoning whether the answer is yes or no. Do you support everything md did or said? Is he the greatest man ever born or will ever be born? Yes to both. As for the first one. the Quran. Really is that simple- the challenge is for mankind to create anything like it. anything. think about it- how easy would it have been for the non muslim chiefs of Muhammads era to have created something sim ilar to the quran- if they can do it anyone could have- hence it is not Gods word- and Mohammed would have lost all credibility. When he was first bestowed with prophethood he had no followers and no support. It would have been too easy for the non mulsim enemy to rob him and Islam of all credibility. even later instead of fighting all those wars against him would it not have been far easier to write something like the quran and prove that it is not in fact Gods word...well, why didnt they... the fact remains that islam is the worlds fastest growing religion- people are turning AWAY from hindiusm in their 1000's because they are sick of its inherent racism... How can a religion that was formulated more than 1000 years ago be perfect ? That is utter nonsense! Also, Islam is the world's fastest growing religion because you guys are allowed to convert in democratic countries whereas in Islamlic countries , apostacy is practised. Conversion away from Islam means death. Do you support that.
kumble_rocks Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani Anakin ... CC and the other apologists will have the usual explanation for it .... "Teeny weeny minority " :lmao: I don't know how somebody can claim that their religion is perfect. At least Hindus by and large don't claim this nonsense. Also, I have noticed that muslims will never talk about Apostacy . I would like to see anti-conversion bill in India which prevents conversion to Islam simply because Islamic countries don't grant the same privilege.
Anakin Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani KR don't forget that there is no concrete proof of this fastest growing claim, and they always forget their birth rate. This kind of thinking by educated muslims was also exposed in the old board for shwetabh. And some people still hope muslims will modernize their thinking, but they forget that their source of reasoning and faith is medieval and can't be changed, that's how strongly they are brainwashed.
Anakin Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani Anakin ... CC and the other apologists will have the usual explanation for it .... "Teeny weeny minority " :lmao:Well you can imagine 99.99999% as teeny weeny minority, I'm sure that could be debated as grammatically correct as well
King Tendulkar Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani Well at least sooda came out and answered the questions. Maybe he can answer these questions, as again posters like MP have continually avoided answering them. 1. Does Islam believe in Kaffars and what does this mean? 2. What does Islam believe should happen to Kaffars? 3. What does Islam believe should happen to a muslim who decides to practice another religion? 4. Under Sharia law in Islam, what does a woman need to do to prove she has been raped?
yoda Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani and the islam obsession continues. :lmao:
kumble_rocks Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani and the islam obsession continues. :lmao: DSR is willingly to answer any questions about Hinduism as stated by him . So what's wrong in muslim posters answering basic questions. Do you see any abuse in his questionaire ?. Heck , I routinely criticize Hinduism also. GKD criticizes every religion . So , at least it is not one sided from my side. People claiming that their religion is perfect should atleast explain the basis on which they make their claim.
head coach Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani I dont think anyone should answer these questions. 1. If he is asking genuinely to know more about this religion then why cannt this person who is asking do some research and find out himself? 2. I dont know the answer but if it's meant at degrading the beliefs of people why should they go through the exercise? 3. This site being a cricket fan website arent we supposed to allow everybody to be a part of these discussion or are trying to get rid of a section of people who follow this religion to come here? 4. If the intention is not to malign then he/she should respect others who visit here as humans and give them a break We had a disucssion on some issues related to Hinduism but we never criticized the religion or the people who follow it. Why do you need to show horns and make people resentful?
kumble_rocks Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani I dont think anyone should answer these questions. 1. If he is asking genuinely to know more about this religion then why cannt this person who is asking do some research and find out himself? 2. I dont know the answer but if it's meant at degrading the beliefs of people why should they go through the exercise? 3. This site being a cricket fan website arent we supposed to allow everybody to be a part of these discussion or are trying to get rid of a section of people who follow this religion to come here? 4. If the intention is not to malign then he/she should respect others who visit here as humans and give them a break We had a disucssion on some issues related to Hinduism but we never criticized the religion or the people who follow it. Why do you need to show horns and make people resentful? I don't know ,mate! Part of me agrees with what you are saying and part of me doesn't .
head coach Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Re: MundaPakistani KR/Bheem, As you and I know extremists in all sides create problems everywhere. They favor outrageous and sometimes violent tactics and are reluctant to accept any form of compromise. Don't you think these type of questions are getting into extreme levels? If my real intention is to debate then I would put my side of the story and wait until someone reciprocate with ther view without just keep pushing people to the edge. Hey if this is something you support and would like to carry on then go ahead I just voiced it that's all.
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