Online Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 Former Australian captain turned commentator Ian Chappell has rated Ricky Ponting a better leader than Steve Waugh. Chappell said Ponting has managed to keep Australia competitive even after losing star players, while Waugh, who had high-class players at his disposal for most of his captaincy career, struggled when challenged. "I think out of the last four Australian captains, Steve Waugh runs fourth in my book. I have got Mark Taylor, Ricky Ponting and Allan Border…" Chappell told Harsha Bhogle on Cricinfo's Opening Up. "I think Ponting is a bit conservative with his field placings for my liking, but when you think of the turnover... in the case of Warne and Glenn McGrath, two champion bowlers. He has had an enormous turnover of that level of players, and yet he has still kept Australia competitive." In 2009, Ponting became the first Australian captain since Billy Murdoch in the 19th century to lose the Ashes twice. But Chappell said he did not rate captains by their win-loss records and that Ponting fared better than Waugh when on the back foot. "The reason why I don't rank Steve Waugh very highly is because I think he ran out of ideas pretty quickly. He didn't have to run out of ideas quickly very often, because he wasn't under the pump very often. But I saw him run out of ideas. Kolkata, for instance, in 2001... I have never seen Ricky Ponting run out of ideas." Imran Khan, Mike Gatting and Arjuna Ranatunga were other captains Chappell said he admired. Mike Brearley, the England captain famous for his tactical nous but not his cricketing talent, was not on Chappell's list. "I think I would say about Mike Brearley that I always thought it was hard enough to win a game when you are playing 11 v 11. Why are you going into the game with 10 v 11?" Ranatunga's mettle was proved not only at the 1996 World Cup but also when Sri Lanka were clearly the weaker side, Chappell said. "I saw him in a game at Bellerive Oval where he was outgunned. fact, Australia really only won the game on the final day in the last session, when they were the only team who were going to win from three and a half days on. But Arjuna kept that side in the game for much longer than they had any right to be." Chappell said captaining a side was harder today because of the different formats and the interaction with the media, but he said captains today were not doing right by prioritising boundary-saving over wicket-taking and by delegating match-turning decisions to their team-mates. "My order of priority is wickets, way up there, right at the top by miles; saving singles next, quite a distance down; and then, way down, saving boundaries." Chappell pointed at South Africa as a side that placed a premium on boundary-saving. "The idea with South African captaincy basically is, if you've got a couple of quickies, use them, and then you've got these seamers to hold things tight in between times till your real quickies are ready to come back again. So I think they place too high a store on containment, whereas I like captains who are always trying to get the opposition out." Source
f2000560 Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 is there a bromance between ponting and chappel ? ponting the guy who lost to the poms twice, the first time in 2005 with every bit of a great team unde his command, that steve waugh hade ponting the guy who bowled trundlers to save his skin rather than win a test match chappel i like your comments but your ponting love has reached incredible hights.
f.b.m Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 He might have a point. Ponting built his 'own' team in the last few years which Waugh didnt..
gaurav92 Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 He might have a point. Ponting built his 'own' team in the last few years which Waugh didnt.. Yes.Steve Waugh had the resources in his armoury with the Legends like Warne, Mcgrath the demolishing duo of Hayden and Langer at the Top.Any captain would have won with that kind of a team.Ponting had nurtured some good players like Hussey, Clarke Johnson and Watson which have now become very good international cricketers
punjabi_khota Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 ponting never ran out of ideas ? o really ? :woot:
f2000560 Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 He might have a point. Ponting built his 'own' team in the last few years which Waugh didnt.. ponting also had many of the aforementioned players for quite some time.... despite that lost to england ( ok mc grath was injured but that was about the only player missing in that series) ponting lost to SA at home... and basically australia is a cricket factory .. to captain and lose with them is what i would call a bad captain ponting isn't exceptional
ViruRulez Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 make Abey Kuruvilla the captain of Australia and they would still win. I dont regard either of them to be great captains. Their domestic sides are as good as international sides of other nations. So, they will anyways create quality players irrespective of captains.
Desi Cartman Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 My fav is Waugh but chappel has a point. Winning WCs , CT and so many test matches while rebuilding the side isnt easy.
bhanu Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Ponting > all captains...with the crappiest team he have he still beating all the teams like blindfolded...GO PONTING GO..Overall he is the best player :clap:
Zelig Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I think I would say about Mike Brearley that I always thought it was hard enough to win a game when you are playing 11 v 11. Why are you going into the game with 10 v 11? :hysterical::hysterical: Was he so bad?
f2000560 Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 :hysterical::hysterical: Was he so bad? yeah supposed to be hopeless
DomainK Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Blast from the past lol....every time his name comes up, this is what comes to my mind first. Ian = :fail:
DomainK Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Ponting > all captains...with the crappiest team he have he still beating all the teams like blindfolded...GO PONTING GO..Overall he is the best player :clap: Indeed!! So he has actually registered more wins than his predecessors? I am sure you will give stats to prove what you just claimed.
Dinx - the Jinx Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Chappel bias towards Ponting >>> Gavaskar's towards Sachin... Atleast the latter is genuinely justified in his bias
The Outsider Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 I must bowl spinners and part timers to avoid a match ban at the risk of losing series?
SSJ4Kakashi Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Ponting is one of the best captains in cricket.Also one of the greatest batsman of all-time.PWNing almost every team with such a young side...:omg: :hatsoff:
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