the importance of having strong basics and foundation

[youngindia]

hussey proving again a player with strong basics is capable of coming up with explosive knocks on a more conssitent basis. throught the long periods of domination, both the wi and aus team had explosive batsmen ...but btasmen with proper criketing shots and strong foundation. not half baked cricketers like afridi,yusuf and pollard.these people with weak basics will shine way more occasionally. they are also more limited in their range of shots. This is an area where the indian selectors have ruined the team in name of allrounders. even dhoni is not a technically refined player. then they brought in yusuf. then our troubles started. cmaouflaged by sachin and yuvraj at times. but getting ripped open in t20'as where the seniors have stopped playing and younger guys like rohit are still learning. the lesson is having two technically unrefined players in dhoni and yusuf is a bit too much.also youngster jadeja was brought in as a fifth bowler when his batting is too raw to make any sort of an impact. that made almost three places short of matchwinning specialist batsmen. the selectors are handicapped in their myopic thinking in the following ways- 1. they think its guys like yusuf and pollard who have to gof or the big hits.but these players are only going to succeed way more occasionally, if you dig deeper, because they have shaky basics and their limitations are much more. 2. they think allrounders are required when two teams have attained all time great status since the 70s without a single great allrounder. the lesson is rely on specialists with a strong foundation first and FOREMOST. that's why australia is still contuning to be at the top despite losing so many greats, our selectors are ruining our main strength batting, in name of the allrounders and the fifth bowler. .

[Sid]

hussey proving again a player with strong basics is capable of coming up with explosive knocks on a more conssitent basis. throught the long periods of domination, both the wi and aus team had explosive batsmen ...but btasmen with proper criketing shots and strong foundation. not half baked cricketers like afridi,yusuf and pollard.these people with weak basics will shine way more occasionally. they are also more limited in their range of shots. This is an area where the indian selectors have ruined the team in name of allrounders. even dhoni is not a technically refined player. then they brought in yusuf. then our troubles started. cmaouflaged by sachin and yuvraj at times. but getting ripped open in t20'as where the seniors have stopped playing and younger guys like rohit are still learning. the lesson is having two technically unrefined players in dhoni and yusuf is a bit too much.also youngster jadeja was brought in as a fifth bowler when his batting is too raw to make any sort of an impact. that made almost three places short of matchwinning specialist batsmen. the selectors are handicapped in their myopic thinking in the following ways- 1. they think its guys like yusuf and pollard who have to gof or the big hits.but these players are only going to succeed way more occasionally, if you dig deeper, because they have shaky basics and their limitations are much more. 2. they think allrounders are required when two teams have attained all time great status since the 70s without a single great allrounder. the lesson is rely on specialists with a strong foundation first and FOREMOST. that's why australia is still contuning to be at the top despite losing so many greats, our selectors are ruining our main strength batting, in name of the allrounders and the fifth bowler. .

easy boy,are you mad or what comparing that retard yusuf pathan with one of the greatest odi players dhoni

[hari504504]

what 'basics' are you on about ?? Hussey was all mental steel .... that is the only thing that sees you through a target like that being in such a precarious situation..no matter how technically gifted (or not) you are.. there are some things you just can't TRAIN for..

[fineleg]

This was 100% mental strength that Superman Hussey had. Hail

[bobbydhillon]

This was 100% mental strength that Superman Hussey had. Hail

whineeleg, u watch t20? glad u came out of closet

[youngindia]

what 'basics' are you on about ?? Hussey was all mental steel .... that is the only thing that sees you through a target like that being in such a precarious situation..no matter how technically gifted (or not) you are.. there are some things you just can't TRAIN for..

ignorance of cricket and batting in particular. ask anyone decently trained in cricket. they would refer to forward defence,backfoot defence,no gap between bat and pad on front foot defence, head positioning and balance, footwork ,straight bat etc. for instance when under 14 yr olds are picked for city and state teams, they are assessed on these parameters. this is the foundarion of all things that they will build on later. mental steel gives you calmness of mind.its sets the stage to give your best. just because you are relaxed,it does not mean you get your skills from heaven. your best has to come from your learned skills and execution of your skills. that's stil the real story. don't confuse these aspects.both relaxed mind and cricketing skills are important. one does not work without the other. after all it was not a average batsman who scored all these runs.

[youngindia]

easy boy' date='are you mad or what comparing that retard yusuf pathan with one of the greatest odi players dhoni[/quote'] dhoni is easily better than yusuf but he is not technically refined to have all the features of a full fledged specialist batsman.even dhoni would not disagree with this opinion.

[Sooda]

Yes of course technique matters but Dhoni and to a certain extent Sehwag (to name two) are clear proof that technique is not the be and end all. Neither of those two display classic techniques from a textbook, yet their ODI and test records respectively are testament to the fact they are quality international cricketers. So Im not sure what youre saying is accurate. In T20 and ODIs we need people like Yusuf and Jadeja, who can chip in as a 5th bowler and get quick runs at the death- people LIKE him- i.e allrounders. Yusuf may not be good enough, his brother OTOH I think should still have a role. This is where the Aussies have Watson. And we get guys who arent good enough. Anyways youre focussing on the wrong element of the game here- Aussie pace attack- Nannes, Johnson and Tait Ours a half fit Zaheer, Nehra and Praveen.

[DomainK]

Technique is a little over rated. Yes, a solid training goes a long way in any format, but technique is not the center of batting. Quite a few batsmen ruined themselves chasing technique in stead of runs. Sanjay Manjrekar is an example. A conventional coach tells you to play close to the line, not leave gap between bat and pad, keep the elbow straight. In T20 however, the right technique may be to forget the "no gap between bat and pad", clear the front foot out of the way and swing. But I agree that a solid basic training can help a batsman score in any format.

[hari504504]

ignorance of cricket and batting in particular. ask anyone decently trained in cricket. they would refer to forward defence,backfoot defence,no gap between bat and pad on front foot defence, head positioning and balance, footwork ,straight bat etc.

That is a given for almost ALL batsmen at international level

for instance when under 14 yr olds are picked for city and state teams, they are assessed on these parameters. this is the foundarion of all things that they will build on later. .

Ok. Refer to above

mental steel gives you calmness of mind.its sets the stage to give your best. just because you are relaxed,it does not mean you get your skills from heaven. your best has to come from your learned skills and execution of your skills. that's stil the real story.

'skills' I repeat are a given at this level. Hussey won't even be here if he didn't have a decent forward defence or a back foot defence. Infact how many batsmen are out there who don't have a good proportion of 'skills' you quoted. Do you think someone like Dravid would've bailed Australia out of the situation he was in the place of Hussey ? Mental strength is underrated...

[youngindia]

Yes of course technique matters but Dhoni and to a certain extent Sehwag (to name two) are clear proof that technique is not the be and end all..

sehwag plays with a straight bat and his defence is pretty reasonable. so he does have good foundation. the complaint against him is lack of feet and playing away from body.

Im not sure what youre saying is accurate.

its pretty accurate. only with a strong foundation, you are going to expand further.be more consistent with more explosive knocks. if your foundation is shaky, there are bound to be limitations. dhoni is a highly gifted cricketer but being technically unrefined makes him more limited than he wud have been, had his foundation been stronger. his biomehanics is awkward and his range becomes more limited. he cud have expanded further. that's my point. there can be one such player in the team but more than one would start hurting the team. and the fact australia has generally technically strong players means they have advantage over us.

In T20 and ODIs we need people like Yusuf and Jadeja, who can chip in as a 5th bowler and get quick runs at the death- people LIKE him- i.e allrounders. Yusuf may not be good enough, his brother OTOH I think should still have a role.

that's an illusion. two teams in the past 3 decades never needed one decent allrounder to attain all time great status. high quality specialists are good enuf. the aussies became invincible long before watson established himself. countries with quality allrounders like SA and pakistan didn't attain undisputed no 1 status. i am also for irfan pathan of the 2004 variety bowling wise. but he shud play at 8, not 7. an allrounder is ok only if you can hold in one dept as a specialist.

Anyways youre focussing on the wrong element of the game here- ussie pace attack- Nannes, Johnson and TaitOurs a half fit Zaheer, Nehra and Praveen

batting is our match winner.we produce only high quality batting talent. that's where the focus shud be. barring helpful swinging conditions, our bowlers are usually not winners.with ishant,RPS and sreesanth disappearing, that has taken a even more severe beating as well.right now its abysmal.

fact how many batsmen are out there who don't have a good proportion of 'skills' you quoted.

people are not equal in ability and aptitude.no a mediocre batsman does not achieve great feats. for example pakistani batsmen have terrible techniques.

Do you think someone like Dravid would've bailed Australia out of the situation he was in the place of Hussey ?

different types of players. dravid's role is solidity.

Mental strength is underrated...

no its overated by YOU. i will tell you why. mental toughness is about getting the best of yourself. if you have the skill and talent to be a no 50 player, you will be no 50 on an average even if you come up with your best best of a no 1 player= champion best of a no 5-7 type player= no 5 best of a no 20 player= no 20 that's how it works. there is a reason why only federer and nadal win gs ,not roddick or davydenko the primary reason is in the skills.