mastana Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL franchises against player retention and playing fewer matches Ahead of their first meeting with interim IPL chairman Chirayu Amin tomorrow, a number of franchises have told Cricinfo they are against player retention and playing fewer matches next year, and would like to see more transparency and accountability in the way the league is run. Following the suspension of Lalit Modi as IPL commissioner and the addition of two new franchises, a number of issues concerning this year's player auction and next season's tournament are still to be resolved. Chief among them is the issue of player retention. There have been debates over whether the original eight franchises should be allowed to keep any of their current players. Sachin Tendulkar has suggested teams be allowed to retain eight players - four Indian and four international - but the four franchises that spoke to Cricinfo felt all players should go back into the auction pool. "The practical thing to do is let them go and bid for the players you want in a transparent manner," one franchise official told Cricinfo on the condition of anonymity. As a potential compromise, an official from another franchise suggested giving each team two "cards" for the auction. The cards would give the teams the first right of refusal for one Indian player and one foreign player from their team. So if the maximum bid for a player, say MS Dhoni, was set at $2 million, then Chennai could use the card to bid $2 million and automatically retain him even if another franchise bids the maximum amount. In case Chennai choose to bid less than $2 million for Dhoni, and that bid is matched by one or more of the other franchises, then Chennai would have the first right to break the tie and take the player, using the card. "[That way] everything is decided on the auction table," the official said. In the wake of India's disastrous World Twenty20 campaign, many observers blamed IPL fatigue for the team's poor performance, leading to speculation that fewer matches will be played next year. The IPL governing council is reportedly studying a proposal that recommends the teams be split in two groups, with a total of 68 matches. Under the current format, 94 matches are set to be played next year. However, none of the franchises Cricinfo spoke to were in favour of shortening the tournament. They argue that their decisions are based on a particular business model and certain projections. "The number one reason for adding teams and having more matches was having more revenue. If the number of matches is reduced, it doesn't work for me," a franchise official said. "We can address the problems [player fatigue] arising out of that; there is a solution. But reducing matches and the reduction of revenue is not on." One proposed solution was to limit the Indian players to 14 matches each, but there were reservations about how acceptable that would be, considering the large sums of money being paid for them. Other issues of concern are the maximum permissible size of teams and a salary cap that includes players bought outside the auction. As things stand, teams will be allowed to spend $7 million each on players at the auction. But there is no limit to how much money can be spent on players outside the auction, or how many players a team can buy. This gives franchises with deeper pockets an advantage; hence a cap to level the playing field. "We will ask for a cap on the spend," a franchise official said. "We will ask for a cap on the number of people a team can hire. Nobody should have a squad of more than 25 or 30." The teams would also like a larger voice in the running of the IPL. Among the suggestions is that the governing council should include a franchise representative, who would pass on information to the franchises in a timely way, allowing them to plan their operations more efficiently. Ultimately, clarity and communication are what the franchises want most to get on with the business of running their teams. http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/464388.html None of the franchises give a damn about indian team. They don't want to play less matches. :wall:
Zap_Brannigan Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL franchises against player retention and playing fewer matches http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/464388.html None of the franchises give a damn about indian team. They don't want to play less matches. :wall: Why would they? To them, its a business. Besides, the rule Modi proposed would make sure that no player plays more than 14 games in the league stages, which is basically the number of games they played in the 1st 3 IPL. Player fatigue should be reduced by better planning and reduction of traveling. Dividing teams into faux groups such that a group plays in south of the country for a couple of weeks and then moving to the north in the next few weeks, would accomplice this.
achilles Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL is going down baby. This is why you never kick the father out of his own business.... coz you can't run it the way he did. Modi methods ensured everyone was kept in his/her place. Babu's ofcourse can't be professional, can they? Besides, Modi had a great interpersonal relationship with each of the franchise, which is generally not built overnight. With Modi gone, everything is a mess. Scheduling isn't in place, player retention seems on-off, heck no one even knows what the darn format will be. And there is an Auction coming up in October. This is hilarious. I'm gonna sit on the sidelines and laugh my heart out as these guys murder India's only Global symbol of supremacy.
mastana Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 IPL is going down baby.This is why you never kick the father out of his own business.... coz you can't run it the way he did. Modi methods ensured everyone was kept in his/her place. Babu's ofcourse can't be professional, can they? Besides, Modi had a great interpersonal relationship with each of the franchise, which is generally not built overnight. With Modi gone, everything is a mess. Scheduling isn't in place, player retention seems on-off, heck no one even knows what the darn format will be. And there is an Auction coming up in October. This is hilarious. I'm gonna sit on the sidelines and laugh my heart out as these guys murder India's only Global symbol of supremacy. Thats the best thing happened to indian cricket.
achilles Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Thats the best thing happened to indian cricket. Lets not ignore the good he's done for Indian cricket. Its unfair to judge a person ONLY on his drawbacks.
zubinpepsi Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Lets not ignore the good he's done for Indian cricket. Its unfair to judge a person ONLY on his drawbacks. so wats the good thing hes done for indian cricket apart from getting indian players rich... people who run BCCI and play cricket and the team owners have become rich.. there has been no development in indian cricket/ domestic cricker.. dont be so delusional...
Serani Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL franchises against decreased revenue....shock horror.
IKnowU Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Hopefully BCCI realises the mess thats gonna be created and just simply reinstate Modi and let him run his show. BCCI are just playing tough atm to show that they have balls and cant be pushed around by a individual, but they will give in sooner then later. Otherwise shite gonna go down when Modi unleashes his unlimited ammo of secrets/conspiracies about everyone.
IKnowU Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL franchises against decreased revenue....shock horror. Do that to any tournament around the world be it, epl, nba etc. Shock Horror they will give you the same answer. :banghead:
Serani Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 I know, im just saying, its quite obvious why an owner would not want to reduce the number of matches, hardly thread worth.
IKnowU Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its also about the auction...........they will slowly need to find a proper way of regulating new players into the tournament rather then resort to free for all auctions every year... They should have a draft/lottery(nba) system or a free market. ALthough its still early in IPL history for things to have settled down.
EnterTheVoid Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 However, none of the franchises Cricinfo spoke to were in favour of shortening the tournament. They argue that their decisions are based on a particular business model and certain projections. "The number one reason for adding teams and having more matches was having more revenue. If the number of matches is reduced, it doesn't work for me," a franchise official said. "We can address the problems [player fatigue] arising out of that; there is a solution. But reducing matches and the reduction of revenue is not on." You stupid, selfish, rat bag mother****ers. ****ers only care about money, nothing else. ****ers should be shot.
achilles Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 so wats the good thing hes done for indian cricket apart from getting indian players rich... people who run BCCI and play cricket and the team owners have become rich.. there has been no development in indian cricket/ domestic cricker.. dont be so delusional... Progress is not done or visible overnight. Neither is progress over-the-top and in-your-face. Progress happens when everyone works hand in hand. People in the board, players on the field, selectors during selections, state boards with the BCCI have serious issues with each other. Lets not blame Lalit Modi for all this. IPL has, in Farooq Abdullah's words, "helped poor associations like J&K Cricket Board build a stadium from the revenue generated in the IPL". 1. Cricket is now a valid career option. 2. Money is reaching the grassroots. 3. Infrastructure has improved. A lot more... Appreciate the man for the good he did. Have pepsi and relax !
Gunner_Mania Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 IPL is going down baby. This is why you never kick the father out of his own business.... coz you can't run it the way he did. Modi methods ensured everyone was kept in his/her place. Babu's ofcourse can't be professional, can they? Besides, Modi had a great interpersonal relationship with each of the franchise, which is generally not built overnight. With Modi gone, everything is a mess. Scheduling isn't in place, player retention seems on-off, heck no one even knows what the darn format will be. And there is an Auction coming up in October. This is hilarious. I'm gonna sit on the sidelines and laugh my heart out as these guys murder India's only Global symbol of supremacy. Now THAT is hilarious.
achilles Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Now THAT is hilarious. The politics played in the BCCI is
zubinpepsi Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Progress is not done or visible overnight. Neither is progress over-the-top and in-your-face. Progress happens when everyone works hand in hand. People in the board, players on the field, selectors during selections, state boards with the BCCI have serious issues with each other. Lets not blame Lalit Modi for all this. IPL has, in Farooq Abdullah's words, "helped poor associations like J&K Cricket Board build a stadium from the revenue generated in the IPL". 1. Cricket is now a valid career option. 2. Money is reaching the grassroots. 3. Infrastructure has improved. A lot more... Appreciate the man for the good he did. Have pepsi and relax ! do you have any proof for the points 2 and 3.. or just coming out of air? im not blaming modi.. im asking how indian cricket benefitted from IPL/modi other than making the people richer?
IKnowU Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 im asking how indian cricket benefitted from IPL/modi other than making the people richer? Seriously how the feck do you expect IPL to have a change in the grassroots so soon etc....Nobody even knows how the business model is working atm. the franchises are trying take care of themselves with their whole rosters changing every year. its so premature to expect anything its only been 3 years.......with one of the years being overseas in South Africa. If there is some consistency and structure then we might start seeing some results......
mastana Posted June 23, 2010 Author Posted June 23, 2010 You stupid' date=' selfish, rat bag mother****ers. ****ers only care about money, nothing else. ****ers should be shot.[/quote'] LOL
mastana Posted June 24, 2010 Author Posted June 24, 2010 Most franchises in favour of current format - Mallya The BCCI has set up a three-man committee consisting of Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri and Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi to make recommendations to the board based on discussions with IPL team owners over several matters pertaining to the player auction later this year, and the undefined fourth edition of the tournament next year. Gavaskar, Shastri and Pataudi are all members of the IPL governing council. The decision to set up the committee was taken at a meeting earlier today in Mumbai between interim IPL chairman Chirayu Amin and the franchise owners. Amin was meeting the owners for the first time since the suspension of Lalit Modi. According to Vijay Mallya, the owner of Royal Challengers Bangalore, most of the owners expressed their desire to retain the current format of the tournament, with 94 games to be played on a home and away basis. The owners also suggested that all the players should go into the auction pool (no player retention) and that the salary cap be raised to US$9m from US$7 million. "The franchises are of the view that the current format should be retained, with one home game and one away game. The three-man committee will take on board what all we've said, and take the appropriate steps," Mallya told reporters after the meeting. When asked about the main issues discussed at the meeting, Mallya said: "One was regarding the players, whether they should be retained or dropped into an auction pool. The majority view of the franchisees is that all players should be put into the auction pool. Second was regarding the salary cap - most of us suggested a cap of US$9 million. [And the] format should not change. There should be home and away games even with two new teams." Mallya also confirmed that most franchise owners had approached him to be their spokesperson. B Vanchi, a director of the GMR Group, which owns the Delhi Daredevils, said he was encouraged by the board's willingness to discuss all the concerns of the franchisees and that only an open dialogue could lead to a resolution. He also told reporters no official decisions would be taken until the three-man committee sent its recommendations to the BCCI. In the meantime, he expected there would be many more meetings between the owners and the board. "They have constituted a three-member committee of Ravi Shastri, Sunil Gavaskar and Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi, who will make suitable recommendations and there will be further discussions between the franchises and the BCCI on this issue," he said. "Suggestions have been taken on every issue: Player retention, auction, cap, squad cap, salary cap, everything. But all are suggestions flowing from our side to them and their side to us. Nothing is decided. There is still a lot of time." http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/464486.html
mastana Posted June 24, 2010 Author Posted June 24, 2010 According to Vijay Mallya, the owner of Royal Challengers Bangalore, most of the owners expressed their desire to retain the current format of the tournament, with 94 games to be played on a home and away basis. The owners also suggested that all the players should go into the auction pool (no player retention) and that the salary cap be raised to US$9m from US$7 million. I hope it fails next year. Pathetic losers.
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