ICC adopts its own ‘anti-doping’ code

[Guest gaurav_indian]

"As far as issues related to WADA many people share my views in india. Go and ask all these questions to them also." FTR, I have written to every author who wrote the articles expressing the same dumb, idiotic lines with no research what so ever in this WADA affair. I call spade a spade. Most of the ones who bash BCCI and Indian cricketers are either a) uninformed, b) have an axe to grind against BCCI or c) Use BCCI as a soft target to claim their 15 minutes of fame. I have defended BCCI/ Indian cricketers vociferously in this matter (see the links) and will continue to do so. http://www.slcricket.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=ilfsnrd8im4kk0n2994o1fo1q2&topic=24094.0 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_thread/thread/c02df0d2b3c8a0ac/2ff1a6cc58606a17?lnk=gst&q=cricketrulez#2ff1a6cc58606a17 Yeah india should play pakistan thats the only way to show your rivalry. Becoz politically india wont do anything. So why not settle it on the field? And how does that make anyone non indian? When one wants to see his country win against rival country in a cricket match. Or am i explaining this to a 3 year old kid? Sure, lets play pakistan, where they don't care about loosing, but for usre part of that money will promote more violence against india! You think this is good way to get revenge? And on top of this you are insinuating I'm a 3 year old? Sheesh! First of all you spend your time on pakistani boards and read their threads and views. Then you come here and call me a pakistani. What a loser. You spent half of your time there and for what? If you dont like them then why do you go there? It helps to know how your adversary thinks and acts and voila what do you know, their arguments are identical to yours. I'll let you decide if that is god thing or bad thing. Yeah i go to mods becoz its a forum you idiot there are some rules which you need to follow. You wont like it if i start calling you names or call your family traitor here. Mods told me to report before replying to silly and inflammatory posts. If you have any problem with me or my posts go and click that ignore user button its very simple. Noone is forcing you to read my posts. And if you want to quote and reply then do so without calling me paki/non indian/traitor. You are nobody to call me a traitor/pak/non indian. You are just one of those losers who dont have anything to do in their lives, they just sit on their a**** and mess with people online. You expressed your opinion and I expressed my thoughts on your post, don't like it, tough ****. All you have to shut me up is counter my points instead of dong the "Gish Gallop". If you can't do that, suck it up. And yeah you write like texdes1. When one(cricketrulez) goes other one(texdes1) comes and vice versa. You have some serious problems dude. Your IP's should be checked. I think I have given adequate proof that I'm not texdes1. If you still think I'm, then you are not very bright. I gotta get to know this tex guy, based on you description, he and I might get along very well.

[cricketrulez]

What were their replies? Plz post them here. Those who write those columns never address the counter points. Funny who else do we know who acts like that? You are wasting your time dude It is my way of showing support to BCCI in this matter. If it is waste of time so it is! And everytime i can see you bringing FIFA to support your views. Once again i am asking this question are you against sending players privacy info or you worried about their info getting leaked? I bring it up becos, it is the most relevant precedent in this BCCI-ICC-WADA matter. Cricket is not a sport where unannounced testing during offseason is necessary. If you don't know why that is I'm happy to explain. Cricketers, with the current schedule, hardly get any time of and deserve to enjoy their holiday in peace. This combined with the drugs potentially of use in cricket stay in the body for months makes the where about clause a draconian invasion of privacy and counter to article 21 of the indian constituion. It tunrs out it is case in some other countries also eg. belgium. This would explain why WADA is going to review it in JAN 2010. Let WADA do this review and come with sensible plan for each specific sport. Thats is what they get paid to do. Then plz tell me how will you take revenge? Whats your way to take revenge? By starving them of money would be good start. India can't do any thing about the saudi money, but indian can do something about indian money. Yeah you expressed your opinion and i expressed mine. Since you didnt like them you started calling me paki/non indian. Thats the difference. It shows who is sensitive here. :winky: Once again, read my post carefully, the first time I said, "you sound like a paki". If you think that is calling you a paki, you need english lessons. Its laughable when you say things like india shouldnt keep any relation with pakistan on the cricket field. Yet you visit pakistani forums and want to know their views. I dont think their views should make any difference to your life isnt it? But still you are such a despo. It is about denying material support to pakistan in any way or form. If you think arguing and learning how they think is not important to indian interests, once again you are slow!

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The drug tests don't work, says Professional Players' Federation • Chiefs from major sports to tell Wada plans are failing • Rules on recreational drug use 'grossly disproportionate' Plans to make sportsmen and women provide details of their daily whereabouts to drugs testers are "suffering a slow death", players' chiefs from the major sports will tell world anti-doping authorities this week. The Professional Players' Federation, which represents players from football, cricket, rugby union and rugby league among others, will tell the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) that two-year bans for recreational drugs are excessive. Wada has been pushing for all sports to sign up to its new "whereabouts" rule, where players have to register where they will be for one hour every day, 365 days a year – including when on holiday. Fifa has resisted the introduction of the rule and cricket's Indian Premier League has announced it will not submit to it either. The PPF's general-secretary, Simon Taylor, will tell Wada director-general David Howman at a meeting on Wednesday that it is not workable. "The whereabouts rule is suffering a slow death and it has definitely got to be revised," Taylor said. "I am sure David Howman will defend it robustly but it has now been kicked into touch by so many different countries and sports – Indian cricket and Fifa are not doing it so all the others should ask why they should too. "There is an argument for it at high-risk individual sports such as cycling and athletics, but in team sports such as football, cricket and rugby you know where the players are going to be six days a week, 48 weeks a year." Taylor will also press Wada to ease its position on long bans for players who test positive for recreational drugs, following the case of Bath prop Matt Stevens who was banned for two years after testing positive for cocaine. The PPF will instead urge for Wada to adopt Australia's policy, where a first test for recreational drugs does not lead to a ban if the player agrees to undergo counselling. Taylor added: "There is no doubt that recreational drug use has no place in professional sport but we are looking at how best to help people. A two-year ban for someone who has a problem but is not trying to cheat is grossly disproportionate. Matt Stevens is one of the high-profile examples. No one is suggesting he cheated – quite the opposite, his performance has suffered."

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[DomainK]

Yup. BCCI had the balls. The rest got inspired.

[Riley's Girl]

Yup. BCCI had the balls. The rest got inspired.

Yes nobody else had the courage to speak out first.

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“Whereabouts Clause†: Team India falls in line, on own terms The “whereabouts clause” controversy, which rocked world cricket in August and caused India’s players to come under heavy fire from their counterparts in other sports, is about to end. Anand Vasu reports. More... Team India falls in line, on own terms Anand Vasu, Hindustan Times New Delhi, November 26, 2009 First Published: 00:44 IST(26/11/2009) Last Updated: 01:59 IST(26/11/2009) The “whereabouts clause” controversy, which rocked world cricket in August and caused India’s players to come under heavy fire from their counterparts in other sports, is about to end. When a World Anti-Doping Agency-compliant anti-doping code was first proposed by the International Cricket Council (ICC), India’s players — backed by the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) — stalled the proposal. They believed filing their “whereabouts” three months in advance, as required, raised concerns over invasion of privacy and of security details of star players being compromised. The “whereabouts” clause makes it mandatory for players to inform authorities of where they will be over the specified period of time so they can be tested unannounced. HT has learnt that Board secretary N. Srinivasan and other BCCI brass met ICC officials and WADA representative David Howman last week in this regard. Srinivasan and Ratnakar Shetty, the Board’s chief administrative officer, will be part of a teleconference with ICC and WADA representatives on Thursday to take the process forward. In essence though, three points have already been agreed on. First, that a “cricket-specific out-of-competition testing programme” be developed. Two, “whereabouts” information be filed on a monthly or bi-monthly basis rather than in advance blocks of three months each, thus allowing that information not be given out too much in advance. And finally, that the onus of filing the whereabouts information accurately and in time rests with member boards rather than players. The cricket-specific code will have to be submitted to WADA for approval. “Before this, it will be circulated among other member boards before being put before the ICC chief executives’ committee in December,” a source said.

[kabira]

>Two, “whereabouts” information be filed on a monthly or bi-monthly basis rather than in advance blocks of three months each, thus allowing that information not be given out too much in advance. So from 3 month now they will agree to one month.

[The Outsider]

And finally, that the onus of filing the whereabouts information accurately and in time rests with member boards rather than players.

This is the best amendment - even if some player screws up WADA cannot just step in and enforce a ban.

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ICC has found the solution to whereabouts clause: Lorgat International Cricket Council CEO Haroon Lorgat today said the ICC has found a solution to the contentious whereabouts clause of the WADA Anti-Doping code and a consensus would be reached on the matter by next week. More... ICC has found the solution to whereabouts clause: Lorgat Press Trust Of India Mumbai,, April 14, 2010 International Cricket Council CEO Haroon Lorgat on Wednesday said the ICC has found a solution to the contentious whereabouts clause of the WADA Anti-Doping code and a consensus would be reached on the matter by next week. "We are very close to resolving the issue of the whereabouts clause. It's the only contentious point of the WADA resolve. We have found a solution and hopefully the issue will be resolved," Lorgat said. "We have got a board meeting coming up next week with the ICC executive board members. We are working closely with all our cricket members. We will present that final proposal to the board-men and hopefully, by next week we should have found a consensus on that particular proposal," he added. The clause requires cricketers to furnish details of their whereabouts three months in advance to the World Anti-Doping Agency. Players have rejected the WADA code because of this clause, saying it's a violation of their privacy and poses a security threat as well. Meanwhile, Lorgat asserted that preparations for next year's ODI World Cup in the sub-continent were going according to plans and the Wankhede and the Ferozshah Kotla stadium would be ready on time to stage the multi-national event. "In terms of preparations for World Cup we are satisfied. Its going according to plans. Wankhede stadium, in particular had issues with one section of the reconstruction. I understand that the issue has now been resolved," Lorgat said. "We have been assured that the work will be completed on time. There will be inspections from time to time. I'm sure that the stadium will be completed on time," he added. The reconstruction at the Wankhede stadium has been mired in controversy after a petitioner challenged it in the Bombay High Court stating that that renovation was yet to get clearances under Environment Protection Act and Coastal Regulation Zone rules. The petitioner further alleged that existing headquarters of the Cricket Board and Indian Premier League (IPL) within the stadium premises too are illegal. On the Kotla pitch which was termed 'substandard' for Twenty20 cricket by Anil Kumble and Gautam Gambhir recently, Lorgat said the ICC was working with the DDCA to improve the quality of the track. "The only thing we can do is to work with the DDCA. We have got Andy Atkinson, the ICC pitch consultant, he will work with them over the next few months. It is important that we get the Kotla pitch upto a certain standard as it is an important World Cup venue. So now to the end of the year, we will work with the DDCA to get the pitch upto the required standard," Lorgat said.

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ICC adopts its own ‘anti-doping’ code Come August 1, 2010 and the International Cricket Council will have its own anti-doping code in effect. More... Professional Cricketers Association welcomes ICC's new doping code • ICC drops clause asking players to be available daily for testing • PCA says new proposals are 'adequate and sensible' David Hopps guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 July 2010 India's Sachin Tendulkar said the 'whereabouts' doping clause compromises his security. The Professional Cricketers Association has given warm approval to India's successful campaign to force the International Cricket Council to adopt a less stringent anti-doping code, which removes the need for players to be available for testing on a daily basis when away from the game. The ICC has abandoned attempts to compel players to advise of their whereabouts for at least an hour of every day after India refused to comply with the code, with top Indian players such as Sachin Tendulkar and MS Dhoni complaining it put their privacy and security at risk. Some Indian players routinely employ security advisers and keep their whereabouts secret both to escape fanatical supporters and because of the risk of terrorism. Under cricket's proposed code, a maximum of 11 top-ranked one-day cricketers in each nation would now be placed in a national player pool and would only need to provide "cricket whereabouts information" rather than divulge their personal whereabouts. Angus Porter, the PCA's chief executive, supported the new code, a draft of which has now been delivered to the major international nations for approval. "The PCA supports the new proposals which we think are adequate and sensible and which suit the needs of cricket," he said. Under the most rigorous guidelines imposed on sports such as athletics by Wada, the world anti-doping agency, athletes must provide written notice 90 days in advance of where they will be on any given day – the so-called "whereabouts" clause. Cricket originally adopted those guidelines, threatening suspension if a player missed three checks in a 90-day period. That necessity will now only be enforced on cricketers with long-term injuries or past violations of the anti-doping code, who will be placed on a separate register. The ICC now holds the view that players can be successfully monitored within competition, as the burden of international cricket means that they are available for the vast majority of the year, and that distinctions between different sports must be recognized if anti-doping legislation is to be smoothly implemented. An ICC spokesman dismissed suggestions that Wada is unhappy about the watered-down nature of cricket's anti-doping code, stating that it had been drawn up with Wada's full involvement and had been fully endorsed. The spokesman also dismissed speculation that cricket's ambitions to be included in the Olympic Games could also be undermined by the failure to adopt out-of-competition testing.

[cricketrulez]

Here are the latest developments related to this topic. http://bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/2011/05/20/hincapie-says-he-saw-armstrong-dope/ Heres is what I wrote on RSC about this matter 1) WADA insisting on a stupid clause which has very little relevance to a sport such as cricket or soccer 2) beating up on BCCI /ICC while bending over for FIFA 3) failing miserably to catch the catch the culprits (if reports on lance are to be believed) in a sport where the "unannounced testing" is extremely rigorous. This gives the impression that 1) WADA are a bunch of incompetent idiots who cannot and will not catch the real culprits and would prefer to "sell" (read extort money) for certification which is as worthless as the paper it is printed on 2) the "Whereabouts" clause is worthless even in a sport where it is most relevant. Why insist on it for aport where it has little to no relevance SO where are the BCCI bashers, particularly Gaurav_indian and other such retards?

[achilles]

Here are the latest developments related to this topic. http://bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/2011/05/20/hincapie-says-he-saw-armstrong-dope/ Heres is what I wrote on RSC about this matter 1) WADA insisting on a stupid clause which has very little relevance to a sport such as cricket or soccer 2) beating up on BCCI /ICC while bending over for FIFA 3) failing miserably to catch the catch the culprits (if reports on lance are to be believed) in a sport where the "unannounced testing" is extremely rigorous. This gives the impression that 1) WADA are a bunch of incompetent idiots who cannot and will not catch the real culprits and would prefer to "sell" (read extort money) for certification which is as worthless as the paper it is printed on 2) the "Whereabouts" clause is worthless even in a sport where it is most relevant. Why insist on it for aport where it has little to no relevance

Yes. BCCI was the face of something every cricketing country wanted. They fronted the entire exercise coz frankly, no one else has the balls to stand up to ICC, let alone WADA.

[cricketrulez]

So where is that ******* gaurav_indian and braguvaran? Time for the dumbkopf's to man up!