vaibhav_delhi Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Keep in mind that these guys were "Indians" not so long ago and the institutions and ideologies that created that sh!t hole were mostly on this side of the LOC and dare I say are not much different today as you get feelers every now and then. Just wait till they gain critical mass and then see what happens. I think nothing substantial can happen inside india now with the kind of awareness with media has created and the preparedness of our armed forces. Although some isolated incidents would happen.
vaibhav_delhi Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 That's where I totally disagree with people -- who consider my views as hardline. My views are REALISTIC. And my views sound harsh and hard because we are dealing with an absolute dick of a nation. Look around and name one other nation which is as much of a pain in the a*$ to other nations of the world as Pakistan is. There is none! And we happen to be its neighbors. I have been called a 'hate-monger', 'bigot', and 'muslim-hater' etc etc on this forum, and that's all fine -- it is their opinion and they can shove their opinions up their own a*$, but I will tell you the kind of people they are -- they are the people who have their heads buried in the sand and when some incident of terror happens linked to the terrorist nation called Pakistan -- they pull their heads out of the sand and go yap yap yap, blah blah blah and they say the same things I do and 2 months down the road -- go right back to bury their heads in the sand. This is what differentiates most people from me. I cannot be like them, I simply cannot. Let me tell you and give you one more example. I (And Probably the ONLY person) on this forum is dead against any Kind of Bi-Lateral Series against Pakistan, be it here or in Pakistan. It was shameful of India to have toured that nation in 2004 and later and also having invited them to tour us. I have several reasons for that and one of them is -- not being able to track the bloody pakis once they enter this nation on visas for matches. Am I saying all 8000 or 10000 or how many ever come to watch matches are terrorists with bad intentions, NO, they are not, but you don't need 8000 people to cause mayhem, you need just 1 person to do that. And since India does not have a fool - proof mechanism to track these guys, it has to be a All or Nothing deal. At one of point I had rather harshly remarked that all Pakis who come here should report to the police station (like criminals do every evening). That remark had created a furor on this forum where at least one Mother F'ing Paki called for my banning and another asking if I was a 'Muslim - Hater'. If I am not wrong the mods deleted the thread. Read this piece of news and tell me If I stand vindicated or not. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Headleys-handlers-used-Indo-Pak-cricket-match-as-cover-for-recce/articleshow/6867357.cms I share your sentiment to a great extent bro.
achilles Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 That's where I totally disagree with people -- who consider my views as hardline. My views are REALISTIC. And my views sound harsh and hard because we are dealing with an absolute dick of a nation. Look around and name one other nation which is as much of a pain in the a*$ to other nations of the world as Pakistan is. There is none! And we happen to be its neighbors. I have been called a 'hate-monger', 'bigot', and 'muslim-hater' etc etc on this forum, and that's all fine -- it is their opinion and they can shove their opinions up their own a*$, but I will tell you the kind of people they are -- they are the people who have their heads buried in the sand and when some incident of terror happens linked to the terrorist nation called Pakistan -- they pull their heads out of the sand and go yap yap yap, blah blah blah and they say the same things I do and 2 months down the road -- go right back to bury their heads in the sand. This is what differentiates most people from me. I cannot be like them, I simply cannot. Let me tell you and give you one more example. I (And Probably the ONLY person) on this forum is dead against any Kind of Bi-Lateral Series against Pakistan, be it here or in Pakistan. It was shameful of India to have toured that nation in 2004 and later and also having invited them to tour us. I have several reasons for that and one of them is -- not being able to track the bloody pakis once they enter this nation on visas for matches. Am I saying all 8000 or 10000 or how many ever come to watch matches are terrorists with bad intentions, NO, they are not, but you don't need 8000 people to cause mayhem, you need just 1 person to do that. And since India does not have a fool - proof mechanism to track these guys, it has to be a All or Nothing deal. At one of point I had rather harshly remarked that all Pakis who come here should report to the police station (like criminals do every evening). That remark had created a furor on this forum where at least one Mother F'ing Paki called for my banning and another asking if I was a 'Muslim - Hater'. If I am not wrong the mods deleted the thread. Read this piece of news and tell me If I stand vindicated or not. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Headleys-handlers-used-Indo-Pak-cricket-match-as-cover-for-recce/articleshow/6867357.cms To a large extent, I'm with you. But the part where I am not is that we don't take a bull down by the horns. We instead dig a grave and inconspicuously lead them to it. That way, 2 good things happen- 1. We solve our problem with minimum hiccups. 2. We don't get hauled up by the international community and maintain our image of being the angelic nation that is put to unease by the irresponsible neighbour. Keep in mind that these guys were "Indians" not so long ago and the institutions and ideologies that created that sh!t hole were mostly on this side of the LOC and dare I say are not much different today as you get feelers every now and then. Just wait till they gain critical mass and then see what happens. Do you feel there is ANY CHANCE of things improving with maybe a positive, young regime understanding that the key to progress lies in putting personal propaganda in the trash can and building a new world of hope with India?
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