Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Looking at the overall test stats Aus are the real super power of cricket and will come back again.Mind blowing figures considering they hardly play the minnows.
satyam1729 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Lol those overall stats are massively misleading considering there are many teams who rarely play strong team . SL has not won a test match in IND, OZ, SA. Pakistan rarely play strong team. And you think that Pakistan is the 3rd best side of all time. :haha::haha: However OZ is still the best overall team.
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Lol those overall stats are massively misleading considering there are many teams who rarely play strong team . SL has not won a test match in IND, OZ, SA. Pakistan rarely play strong team. And you think that Pakistan is the 3rd best side of all time. :haha::haha: However OZ is still the best overall team. Played 11 tests against Aus/Eng and SA over last 18 months so not playing strong teams argument is not true.Pakistan are 3rd despite a horror show over last 8/9 years but real eye opener is Aus having freakishly good record.I am sure majority of those wins came in Ashes.
satyam1729 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Played 11 tests against Aus/Eng and SA over last 18 months so not playing strong teams argument is not true.Pakistan are 3rd despite a horror show over last 8/9 years but real eye opener is Aus having freakishly good record.I am sure majority of those wins came in Ashes. Please stop deluding yourself. Pakistan has not won a test series in OZ, SA, WI. They have won 2 test series against OZ and SA in last 20 years. Have never defeated no.1 side in test for last 32 years Their good W/L ratio is due to home-umpiring in 80s. Imran khan just won 1 test series outside sub-continent in his 20 years career.
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Please stop deluding yourself. Pakistan has not won a test series in OZ, SA, WI. They have won 2 test series against OZ and SA in last 20 years. Have never defeated no.1 side in test for last 32 years Their good W/L ratio is due to home-umpiring in 80s. Imran khan just won 1 test series outside sub-continent in his 20 years career. I know you love Pakistan but sorry this thread is about Aus not your favourite subject.When was the last time you guys won a series in Aus or SA?
satyam1729 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 I know you love Pakistan but sorry this thread is about Aus not your favourite subject.When was the last time you guys won a series in Aus or SA? Drawn more times than you guys. And plus we beat them at home. Whereas Warne used to massacre your team everywhere. And ditto for SA. And moreover what is the point of this thread ? Everybody knows that OZ is the best cricket nation. Pakistan need to play strong team more. And stop producing pitches like Dubai and Abudhabi where every test match ends in draw.
Sir john Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 proud on team india no.1 position in test :yay::yay:
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Wah wah. So did we in 90 and 94.They only won once in Pakistan in 40 years. That Aus never stay down for too long and they will come back again. Already been addressed in this thread. Based on one series?Pitches in India are not too different only difference is quality of your batting line up which bats team out of the game giving bowlers chance to apply pressure.
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 proud on team india no.1 position in test :yay::yay: I thought you supported Kenya?Steve Tikolo is not happy.
satyam1729 Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 OZ defeated Pak in 2002 also in SL and Sharjah. 3-0. So this W/L ratio is nothing but meaningless, when certain country play only NZ.
Sir_Afridi Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;template=results;type=team http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/7.html?class=1;template=results;type=team Playing NZ have helped India more than Pakistan. Both of us have played 50 tests against NZ as of now.Even in NZ Pakistan have won more tests than India. Most of India wins against NZ are at home on dodgy pitches :giggle:
zen Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 And let's not forget that Ind is playing test cricket since 1932 .... Anyways, in the last 20 years, after taking out BD and ZIM as opposition: LINK Country-Won-Lost-W/L ratio Aus-128-48-2.66 SA- 73-47-1.55 Ind- 52-46-1.13 All other sides have more loss than wins :winky:
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 So SL and Sharjah in Pakistan now? We have 33% win ratio in Aus/Eng/WI and SA combined. Indian has 23% win ratio in the same counties.I know why its meaningless now.
Sir_Afridi Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Last 20 years , away from home taking out Bang & ZIm, http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmax1=1+May+2011;spanmin1=1+Jan+1991;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 And let's not forget that Ind is playing test cricket since 1932 .... Anyways, in the last 20 years, after taking out BD and ZIM as opposition: LINK Country-Won-Lost-W/L ratio Aus-128-48-2.66 SA- 73-47-1.55 Ind- 52-46-1.13 All other sides have more loss than wins :winky: Thanks for this post mate.This shows how SA and Ind have been the teams to beat along with the Aus off late.India are def 2nd best team of last ten years.
zen Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 And if we further take out NZ and WI as opposition, then in the last 20 years: LINK Ind moves to 2nd post: Country-W/L ratio Aus - 2.37 Ind - 1.10 SA - 1.09 Like the other table, other countries have more losses than wins Btw, Eng, Pak and SL performance: Eng - 0.66 Pak - 0.63 SL - 0.53
zen Posted April 10, 2011 Posted April 10, 2011 Since 1 Jan 2000, after taking out BD, ZIM, NZ and WI as opposition: LINK Aus-2.26 Ind - 1.20 Other teams have more losses than wins, i.e.: SA - 0.93 Eng - 0.86 SL - 0.67 Pak - 0.45
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Last 20 years , away from home taking out Bang & ZIm, http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmax1=1+May+2011;spanmin1=1+Jan+1991;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team Good to know that.Between 87 and 99 we won in India(87) drew(99) won in Eng three times(87-92-96) drew in SA(98) in our only series there in 90s.WI 93 was a let down and Aus 95(lost 2-1) was a good series too.99 Aus series was where demise truly started and its been downhill since.
Utalk Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Since 1 Jan 2000, after taking out BD, ZIM, NZ and WI as opposition: LINK Aus-2.26 Ind - 1.20 Other teams have more losses than wins, i.e.: SA - 0.93 Eng - 0.86 SL - 0.67 Pak - 0.45 Truly a shockingly poor record for us in 2000s.
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