Stuge Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Pround to be a Pakistani... :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::cantstop: Do you even understand what it proves ?? Pakistan is safe haven for Terrorists !! Oh man .. i would have been feeing shamful ,if osama was caught in india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... watch ABC , BBC , CNN etc and you'll find out how trustworthy and respected is pakistan :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamu Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well done to ISI and all Pakistani security forces. CIA obviously will try to take all the credit. Sir_Retard == Please keep away with your retarded comments for a while. While the rest of the world is celebrating -- idiots like you would do good --- keeping away from all of this. Pakis like yourself should hang your head in shame.:finger::finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... So you mean to tell us that for 10 years while this guy was living in a large mansion 100 km from the capital, no one in the security establishment had any idea where he was? There are only 2 alternatives here 1) Pakistan sold OBL short in exchange for some goodies from America 2) US didnt trust Pakistan at all and carried a unilateral operation to take out OBL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamu Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... SCREW YOU ASIM !! -- REALLY SCREW YOU ANd you want us to believe all that? For as level headed a poster you have been -- Just For the Next Week -- HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME. :finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... Or you are dumb enough to believe he lived in a huge mansion in a miltary area for six years without your goverment or ISI protecting him. Dude, he was living for six years right among your miltitary so what credit do you want for his capture. If your army was competent, they would have caught him themselves and handed him over to US. Why did you need foreign troops to come onto your soil to capture one man who only had 3 security gaurds? So forgive us, if the world laughs at this. Here is a quote from a user on CNN Abbottabad is not just another town outside Islamabad, it's a one the major if not the biggest military base of Pakistan. Headquarters of 2nd Brigade. (See Washington post) His compound was custom built 100 yards from military academy. Also, the compound has at least been in place since before 2005 ( that would be during general Musharaff's Dictator ship). Virtually all the residences there are of military personal or for military, big posh houses (Farm houses, mansions etc) belong to high ranking officers. When we hear that Pakistan cooperated, yet there was a firefight, one has to wonder what was the extent of Pakistan's cooperation. Did they claim that when they shot at US forces they deliberately missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... Asim, check out Indian channels like CNN and BBC. But if patting your own back pleases you then so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Sky news lol-ing at pakis about not knowing OBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 This is brilliant blog " CNN and BBC were showing thousands of Americans gathering outside the White House, cheering the news, the sounds and sights coming from Pakistani channels are at best bizarre. As news anchors shoot away reading the fast unfolding news, they seem unsure whether to describe Osama’s reported death as ‘wo marey ja chukey hein’ or ‘mara ja chukka hai’, – both mean ‘Osama has been killed’, but the first sentence uses words like ‘chukey hein’ that in Urdu and Hindi is used to give respect to someone older. So, as Pakistani newscasters (especially on the ever-animated hyperbolic private channels), continue to zigzag between ‘chuka’ and ‘chukey,’ it was only a matter of time before we began seeing what is called the ghairat brigade, or the pride brigade take their seats in front of the camera" http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/02/gotcha.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 SCREW YOU ASIM !! -- REALLY SCREW YOU ANd you want us to believe all that? For as level headed a poster you have been -- Just For the Next Week -- HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME. :finger: You are going OTT here. asim put forth his viewpoint and he is entitled to his opinion. Why does he need to hang his head in shame? because of the fault of the Pakistani security establishment? Some of your posts are plainly biased against Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Here is whole blog by NFP The news the world had been waiting for ever since the United States declared war against Al-Qaeda in 2001 has finally arrived: Al Qaeda’s numero uno, the most wanted man in the world, Osama bin Laden has finally been killed. According to reports coming in at the time of writing this piece, the wealthy Saudi turned Islamist terrorist died in an attack on his hideout just outside the quiet Pakistani city of Abbotabad. The unprecedented operation was carried out by a team of US marines that had been monitoring Laden’s movements in the area for the last many weeks. A lot more detail report is expected to come in, especially after US President, Barak Obama, went live on television to give the news to his people and the world at large. As CNN and BBC were showing thousands of Americans gathering outside the White House, cheering the news, the sounds and sights coming from Pakistani channels are at best bizarre. As news anchors shoot away reading the fast unfolding news, they seem unsure whether to describe Osama’s reported death as ‘wo marey ja chukey hein’ or ‘mara ja chukka hai’, – both mean ‘Osama has been killed’, but the first sentence uses words like ‘chukey hein’ that in Urdu and Hindi is used to give respect to someone older. So, as Pakistani newscasters (especially on the ever-animated hyperbolic private channels), continue to zigzag between ‘chuka’ and ‘chukey,’ it was only a matter of time before we began seeing what is called the ghairat brigade, or the pride brigade take their seats in front of the camera. Pakistan’s private TV channels are brimming with the most gung-ho characters of this brigade – talk show hosts with an addiction for anything conspiratorial and rhetorical, and never far from using sheer jingoism to give weight to the shenanigans of the Pakistani right-wing, especially regarding the rightists’ blinding hatred for the US, the West, India and Pakistani politicians. So until the writing of this piece, and merely an hour after the news about Osama’s death poured in, the usual suspects in this respect are up and running questioning the validity of the report. The two star anchors of big media houses started behaving as if their jobs are now on the line since Osama is dead and America seems to have won at least this aspect of its war against al Qaeda. Then one after the other they started breaking with a photo which was published on the internet sometime in 2009. The cynical display is quite pathetic, almost akin to the shock the loud mouthpieces of the agitated right-wing exhibited when Raymond Davis made a smooth exit from Pakistan, on the behest of Pakistan’s security agencies that, ironically, were alleged to have been propping up a number of media men and politicians such as Imran Khan to pump up anti-Americanism in Pakistan. Respected journalists and analysts like Najam Sethi, Ayesha Siddiuqa, Hasan Askari and Farrukh Saleem are right to suggest that large sections of the country’s intelligence agencies are using certain media personnel and politicians to drown America’s concerns about Pakistan protecting certain al Qaeda members and those belonging to militant Islamist outfits that America says the Pakistani establishment considers to be ‘friendly.’ Nevertheless, whereas the largely knee-jerk and quasi-reactionary narrative peddled in the name of ghairat in the media and from the mouths of some politicians and TV anchors is now sounding as empty as empty can be, the government and the military-establishment will have to think on its feet. With Osama’s dramatic demise, the Pakistani establishment cannot hide anymore behind the padding its clumsy doings in the war against terrorists was being provided to them by sympathetic media men. They have to answer one very simple question: In spite of the Americans claiming that Osama was hiding somewhere in Pakistan, why did the Pakistani military, who too has lost numerous soldiers in its war against al Qaeda and the Taliban, continued to deny it? What’s more, in a frenzy to impress their masters in certain sections of Pakistan’s security apparatus, these media men and politicians were not even immune to unleash rhetoric that can leave Pakistan and its people not only isolated, but suffering from collective bouts of paranoia, delusion and xenophobia. Whereas now it is becoming more than clear that Pakistani security agencies and the Pakistani government did have an inkling at least as to what the Americans were planning to do, instead of asking the question ‘what Osama was doing hiding in a compound situated in an area where there is sufficient presence of the Pakistan army and ISI,’ these TV men were quick to suggest that the man killed may not be Osama. In fact, one of them confidently announced that according his sources (that’s a nice way of putting it), the man killed was not Osama. But lo and behold! Only an hour after curious claim came the report that the Americans have released the pictures of the dead body and face of Osama. As I go on monitoring the media, the atrocious narrative questioning the validity of the news championed by these talk show hosts-turned-anchors-turned-presenters had fallen on its face and gradually replaced by a line that suggests that the Pakistan military (not the government) should also be given credit for this prize catch. That is when the race to publish the image started. Perhaps the Pakistani security forces and institutions did play a role, but, again, with the emergence of the corpse of Osama in Pakistan, we should be asking, does this episode not validate almost all the other allegations and concerns that the US has exhibited regarding Pakistan’s rather shadowy and topsy-turvy war against terrorists? We have to prove to the world that Pakistan is not a country that accommodates and hides mass murderers. But then, what to expect from a country some of whose politicians and media raise more hue and cry about US drone attacks (that have killed around 2,000 people, most of them militants), rather than about suicide attacks by Taliban/al-Qaeda that, ever since 2004, have slaughtered over 34,000 civilians, policemen and army personnel. http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/02/gotcha.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan114 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Quite funny (but not surprising) that not any indian able to digest the fact that this success of US was simply IMPOSSIBLE without support of Pakistan Army and ISI. But I am not surprised because unfortunately in mind of each common indian, Pakistan's huge role in war against terror comes only after their anti-Pakistan approach so naturally they would never be able to Praise Pakistan's role in this achievement even though they know very well the fact that it was Pakistan, Pakistani people, Pakistan Army who suffered more than any country in world since the war started but never moved an inch behind and the whole world knew that Pakistan Army, ISI and Pak govt played most important role for 10 long years along US to achieve this. I salute Pakistan Army, ISI and hats off to Pakistani people for their extra ordinary courage and patience to reach this success. Pround to be a Pakistani... Man, the amount of spin from some of you guys would put Warne and Murali to shame. The most wanted terrorist in the world is found in a million dollar mansion close to the very capital of your country and you are still trying to paint this as a positive for your country? You really aren't understanding the consequences of this on world opinion about Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bihutoli Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well I think the Paki establishment will be in a real soup now. They tried to play both sides of the field. Suspension of American aid and reinvigorated Taliban attacks may well be the course of the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king2be98 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 You really aren't understanding the consequences of this on world opinion about Pakistan. If World opinion meant so much, we'd have changed a few things a lot sooner. However one thing must be said, it's quite clear that the military needed Osama alive and well the Taliban. Though I completely disapprove of a violent and murderous regime anywhere. Pakistan needed an ally, a strong ally on the left so they could be prepared for India in case of the worst scenario. It's not a case of being embarassed because he's hiding so close to the military headquarters in that region, it a case of why no one bothered to do anything earlier and it's general opinion that Pakistan politically need Afghnistan to be 100% behind them, with the Taliban that was the case. With the current regime, Afghanistanis hate Pakistan, even the ones who have come over as refugees. But one thing must be asked. Why is it ok to kill Osama without a trial? Sure he was guilty of running Al Qaeda and killing thousands, but he still under current law needed to go through a trial. It's a messy situation and it doesn't need Indians who have no idea of what really happened stirring up more hatred towards Pakistan. The user by the name Mamu is absolutely fuelled with hatred for us. Sad really, cause you'll find a lot of Pakistanis and Indians all over the world are able to look past that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 If World opinion meant so much, we'd have changed a few things a lot sooner. However one thing must be said, it's quite clear that the military needed Osama alive and well the Taliban. Though I completely disapprove of a violent and murderous regime anywhere. Pakistan needed an ally, a strong ally on the left so they could be prepared for India in case of the worst scenario. It's not a case of being embarassed because he's hiding so close to the military headquarters in that region, it a case of why no one bothered to do anything earlier and it's general opinion that Pakistan politically need Afghnistan to be 100% behind them, with the Taliban that was the case. With the current regime, Afghanistanis hate Pakistan, even the ones who have come over as refugees. But one thing must be asked. Why is it ok to kill Osama without a trial? Sure he was guilty of running Al Qaeda and killing thousands, but he still under current law needed to go through a trial. It's a messy situation and it doesn't need Indians who have no idea of what really happened stirring up more hatred towards Pakistan. The user by the name Mamu is absolutely fuelled with hatred for us. Sad really, cause you'll find a lot of Pakistanis and Indians all over the world are able to look past that. Some valid points. Now let me ask you, why would India attack Pakistan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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king2be98 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Once again the world will not be given answers. Osama is killed and by doing that we will not know a lot of things that would have helped or at least prepared us for future terrorist attacks. How many were with Osama, who helped Osama, why was he able to hide so long, which of the Pakistani military leaders and politicians helped him to get to where he was etc etc. All these answers will not be found out now he's dead. It's a shame cause the world needed answers and more people needed to be prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Photo dekh ke aisa lag raha hai jaise KKR vs MI ka toontee toontee dekh raha ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 If World opinion meant so much, we'd have changed a few things a lot sooner. However one thing must be said, it's quite clear that the military needed Osama alive and well the Taliban. Though I completely disapprove of a violent and murderous regime anywhere. Pakistan needed an ally, a strong ally on the left so they could be prepared for India in case of the worst scenario. It's not a case of being embarassed because he's hiding so close to the military headquarters in that region, it a case of why no one bothered to do anything earlier and it's general opinion that Pakistan politically need Afghnistan to be 100% behind them, with the Taliban that was the case. With the current regime, Afghanistanis hate Pakistan, even the ones who have come over as refugees. But one thing must be asked. Why is it ok to kill Osama without a trial? Sure he was guilty of running Al Qaeda and killing thousands, but he still under current law needed to go through a trial. It's a messy situation and it doesn't need Indians who have no idea of what really happened stirring up more hatred towards Pakistan. The user by the name Mamu is absolutely fuelled with hatred for us. Sad really, cause you'll find a lot of Pakistanis and Indians all over the world are able to look past that. Some valid points. Just two points on the bolded portion. 1) Worst case scenarios against India ? Dude last I checked Pakistan was the one which attacked India during Kargil and Musharraf is on record to say that it was a brilliant military strategy. So, if they fear India it is an ironic way of showing it. Anyway, both being nuclear powers, noth know a full blown war is far cry. 2) that is an interesting way of rationalizing a very very embarassing event. We are talking about world's biggest terrorist here. 3)What makes you think they had a choice ? You think Osama would have hopped into the chopper . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Once again the world will not be given answers. Osama is killed and by doing that we will not know a lot of things that would have helped or at least prepared us for future terrorist attacks. How many were with Osama, who helped Osama, why was he able to hide so long, which of the Pakistani military leaders and politicians helped him to get to where he was etc etc. All these answers will not be found out now he's dead. It's a shame cause the world needed answers and more people needed to be prosecuted. I think most agencies know the answers, they just cant make it public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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