Let's talk about the DRS

[Guest BossBhai]

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[thevortex]

There is no adverse reaction, Bossbhai. You seem to selectively believe Richardson and the ICC. According to them, Hawkeye et al are still slaves to the umpire. It is just that they forgot about this principle during implementation :). Nevertheless your dream of getting rid of the on field umpires will, in my opinion, remain a dream forever.

[teacup]

Now this I agree, but at other times it also leads me to think that that the players themselves have no clue about how much the ball is moving or where the feck their off stump is. I do think though that it will change over time, may be where the Umpires themselves call the referral when they are not sure rather than the players calling it. I am not sure, but what I am convinced is the probablity of technology getting it right (even without its certification) is definitely higher then human getting it right and hence the best solution is a combination of Man & Machine.

I have a similar take as Gunner. Player challenges should go. Implement a system that uses Hawkeye as supporting technology for the umpires in making LBW calls in a manner that least affects the flow of the game.

[Mr. Wicket]

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshveng2010/content/current/story/453049.html Another cricketer converted... the hard way.

[Sachinism]

Bangla pretty much screwed out of a test win

[Mr. Wicket]

As a counterpoint to thevortex's spurious claim that: "There was never a Sydney in the past and there probably will never be in the future. " (Heck... there were two Sydneys... the 04 robbery by Bukhnaar and Bowden, then the 08 robbery by Bukhnaar and Benson) Now we have this as well. Bangladesh are most likely not going to win this thanks to the men in the white coats. Meanwhile, if there's a point on the fifth day when the test is effectively over but the umpires make a couple of bad decisions in Bangladesh's favour - by which time it's too late to help them - will people be suggesting the bad decisions from day 3 evened out, or will people actually count the number of mistakes?

[Guest Hiten.]

Three main contributors were let off the hook and there is nothing any team that could do to win from thereon. Bangladesh could've managed to get a lead of 100 or so and put England on the ropes. I feel for the BD fans and cricketers.

[vvvslaxman]

I don't trust hawk eye fully. Leg before decisions should only be given by umpires. Only obvious edges or lack of it should be judged using referral. This predictive technology is not reliable. It cannot account for reverse swing, googly that is pitched fully up and whole lot of things.

[Guest BossBhai]

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[Gunner_Mania]

^Bell was also plumb

[Chandan]

Hmm.. but what do you have to say about the hawkeye which could not provide an input due to extremely windy condition at Wellington?

[ludhianvi]

Hawkeye vs Umpire? So you desire a robot in place of a human umpire? I think the current UDRS is working fine and should be implemented by all countries. Why its not being used in some series is baffling. UDRS has shown to remove the shockers and the umpire is still in control. This is the right approach IMO.

[vvvslaxman]

Hawkeye vs Umpire? So you desire a robot in place of a human umpire? I think the current UDRS is working fine and should be implemented by all countries. Why its not being used in some series is baffling. UDRS has shown to remove the shockers and the umpire is still in control. This is the right approach IMO.

Leg before decisions caused more controversy with UDRS system. Goal is to eliminate obvious howlers. Not marginal decisions.

[Gunner_Mania]

Leg before decisions caused more controversy with UDRS system. Goal is to eliminate obvious howlers. Not marginal decisions.

Which series are you talking about?

[vvvslaxman]

Which series are you talking about?

India had 3 bad decisions through UDRS in Srilanka. Dravid was way way infront of the wicket. But just because ball was slightly inline and hitting inline they gave it out. Same happened with Viru and one more batsman. This predictive technology is a unreliable BS technology. Even the snicko is not reliable.

[Gunner_Mania]

The UDRS then was on trial. That was a failure. It has been improved so much now. Don't even compare the UDRS that was used in the WI-Eng series last winter or the SL-Ind series with the one currently in place. The current one is not perfect either, but is a great improvement over the previous one.

[vvvslaxman]

The UDRS then was on trial. That was a failure. It has been improved so much now. Don't even compare the UDRS that was used in the WI-Eng series last winter or the SL-Ind series with the one currently in place. The current one is not perfect either' date=' but is a great improvement over the previous one.[/quote'] Still unreliable for leg before decisions. It still should be with umpires. For obvious howlers like inside edges you could use that. There are cases where you can pitch half in line and hit half in line and still miss the stump. Prediction sometimes doesn't account for nature of the pitch. One of the reason why players have mixed opinons about UDRS. It is not accurate. I don't say don't use UDRS. But use it just for obvious howlers.

[Guest BossBhai]

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[vvvslaxman]

got any evidence ?

Watch highlights of India/SL series.

[vvvslaxman]

6.4 Muralitharan to Sehwag, OUT, Mahela asks for the Review for the lbw. The ball pitched on the leg stump line - - half outside leg and half inside- and straightened and Sehwag shouldered arms. The ball clipped the inner half of the front pad - which was placed around the leg stump line - and then went on to hit the back pad in front of the stumps. It's a slightly tough one. It hit the front pad first and then deflected. After the chat with the third umpire, Benson has given it out. Joy for Sri Lanka. What a blow from Murali.