Im glad i was left out- Kohli

[DeepFineLeg]

Kohli and Raina are a study in contrast. Kohli has a high opinion of his own abilities while Raina is much more modest. Raina is a gritty and gusty player - similar to Gambhir. If he cements his place in the test team, I would not be surprised to see him captain Indian T20/ODI/Test teams of the future (something Kohli also aspires to). I was impressed by Raina's captaincy during WI series.Kohli on the other hand seems like almost expecting things to fall in his lap.

[achilles]

^ Well everyone is different. Ganguly wouldn't have declared the test, Dhoni did.

[Show_stopper]

"I am glad I was left out"..sounds a bit masochistic, doesn't it?:hmmm:

[DeepFineLeg]

"I am glad I was left out"..sounds a bit masochistic' date=' doesn't it?:hmmm:[/quote'] Not at all. His interview sounds anything but...

[vvvslaxman]

"I am glad I was left out"..sounds a bit masochistic' date=' doesn't it?:hmmm:[/quote'] He is confident he is coming back. But as long as you can walk the talk it is fine.

[DeepFineLeg]

I found him a bit too cocky for his own good. I hope he can live up to the hype.

[achilles]

Hype is a good thing... if you know how to deal with it. Sachin Tendulkar is maybe as big as the game of cricket. His reputation precedes him. And he has a good head on his shoulders. Everyone has the potential to be him, everyone can be like him and not talk big. But then, its their choice.

[deepak_sach]

Virat Kohli is arrogant unlike Raina

[Sidhoni]

He is back into the side, but I dont think he should be playing

[Rahul Dravid]

He is back into the side' date=' but I dont think he should be playing[/quote'] atleast one oppurtunity in the 4th test? Raina has really struggled... he atleast deserves 1 chance i think...

[Spiderguy252]

I don't think Kohli can be a good #6. #4 is the position for him I reckon. Though there is a certain Sachin at #4 already. :)

[achilles]

atleast one oppurtunity in the 4th test? Raina has really struggled... he atleast deserves 1 chance i think...

Do you want to get fatwa'd by the CSK fanatics? He's the Prophet of Chakka and Chauka and the highest run scorer in the IPL. That is what gets him in the test team. Technique is for second-class players like Rahul Dravid and Jonathan Trott.

[Jersey #10]

atleast one oppurtunity in the 4th test? Raina has really struggled... he atleast deserves 1 chance i think...

Sachin and Laxman have also struggled! Let's get Mithun for Laxman and someone else for Sachin. :wall: maybe rayudu for sehwag?

[Brainfade]

Sachin and Laxman have also struggled! Let's get Mithun for Laxman and someone else for Sachin. :wall: maybe rayudu for sehwag?

For all of Doc's doom-and-gloom about the lack of talent and drive, he is pulling for the Indians to succeed (in his heart of hearts). Deny that, Doc. That, of course means that a solution needs to be unearthed. Even if the big 4 - VS, SRT, RD and VVSL - had succeeded beyond our wildest dry dreams, and even if Zaheer and Harbhajan had lit things up, we know that this nucles will not last more than, say, 3 years. So, what's next? (1) We will go through a process of rebuilding like Australia did after the exit of McGrath, Warne, Hayden and Gilchrist. We will see a revolving door of openers and pace bowlers. We will struggle. (2) If a concerted effort is made to develop players, a new crop of talented players will emerge in 5 years and form a new nucleus. They will be competitive, and with the right captain *and* coach, may even dominate. Case in point? This English team was crap less than 3 years ago. Stuart Broad was being compared to Tilak Raj. Today, we're comparing him to McGrath. What changed? A deliberate, strategic move toward excellence under Strauss and Flower. Dare I suggest that - under SCG (and then MSD) and Wright (and then Kirsten) - we saw the same thing with India? It can be done. Even the most rational and skeptical observer can see that there is a wealth of batting talent (despite Doc's insistence otherwise) - Kohli, Raina, Pujara, Rahane, maybe Mukund are all very good players. They all may have technical limitations, but besides SRT, DB, IVAR & SMG, who doesn't? If these youngsters develop mental toughness, they will succeed. It is the bowling that worries me, and I will turn irrational - from the rubble will emerge an orchid :-)!

[Brainfade]

Virat Kohli is arrogant unlike Raina

As long as he scores runs, fields his a** off, and behaves well with the rest of the team, it shouldn't really matter.

[Jersey #10]

For all of Doc's doom-and-gloom about the lack of talent and drive, he is pulling for the Indians to succeed (in his heart of hearts). Deny that, Doc. That, of course means that a solution needs to be unearthed. Even if the big 4 - VS, SRT, RD and VVSL - had succeeded beyond our wildest dry dreams, and even if Zaheer and Harbhajan had lit things up, we know that this nucles will not last more than, say, 3 years. So, what's next? (1) We will go through a process of rebuilding like Australia did after the exit of McGrath, Warne, Hayden and Gilchrist. We will see a revolving door of openers and pace bowlers. We will struggle. (2) If a concerted effort is made to develop players, a new crop of talented players will emerge in 5 years and form a new nucleus. They will be competitive, and with the right captain *and* coach, may even dominate. Case in point? This English team was crap less than 3 years ago. Stuart Broad was being compared to Tilak Raj. Today, we're comparing him to McGrath. What changed? A deliberate, strategic move toward excellence under Strauss and Flower. Dare I suggest that - under SCG (and then MSD) and Wright (and then Kirsten) - we saw the same thing with India? It can be done. Even the most rational and skeptical observer can see that there is a wealth of batting talent (despite Doc's insistence otherwise) - Kohli, Raina, Pujara, Rahane, maybe Mukund are all very good players. They all may have technical limitations, but besides SRT, DB, IVAR & SMG, who doesn't? If these youngsters develop mental toughness, they will succeed. It is the bowling that worries me, and I will turn irrational - from the rubble will emerge an orchid :-)!

and the point is? mr. obvious

[Brainfade]

and the point is? mr. obvious

... that I am trying to spread some sunshine :-). Looks like someone needs shades. I intended to reply to doc's post, mistakenly clicked "reply" on yours. So, my bad. Oh, and BTW, Mithun for VVSL? Give me some of what you're drinking.

[Spiderguy252]

As long as he scores runs' date=' fields his a** off, and behaves well with the rest of the team, it shouldn't really matter.[/quote'] True. Yuvraj is pretty much the same.

[Guest Gunner]

... that I am trying to spread some sunshine :-). Looks like someone needs shades. I intended to reply to doc's post, mistakenly clicked "reply" on yours. So, my bad. Oh, and BTW, Mithun for VVSL? Give me some of what you're drinking.

Don't you know his famous VVS thread? Tranny is world famous on ICF due to his love for Laxman. :haha::haha:

[Lurker]

Ah Lurker, where have you been? It's just beginning to get exciting around here. Generation X, Bharatmata's billiontuplets, comprising 1 in every 6 human being on the planet, are just about to find out the truth. And boy, it has the stench of rotting fish. Have you been on a cricinfo article recently? Or for that matter any cricket article written by a Western journalist..British press, Australian press? At the bottom of the article, clustered like piranhas stripping a corpse clean, are Indian fans- V.Rajus, D.Bose, N.Pillai and thousands of others, scouring the net night and day like vultures for the merest hint that somebody out there has missed a superlative scribing about their precious players. In their parallel universe, the Kohlis, Vijays and Pujaras are as potent a prospect as any that ever breathed, Zaheer Khan draws comparisons with Kapil, Harbhajan with Wasim...arghh! One in six. Corrupted by a non-stop diet of cricket, filmstars with franchises, upstart cricketers who see a million dollars as loose change but can't fend a short ball aimed at their molars, a meaningless 20-20 jamboree that is crowding out all other sport in India, feeding on its own delusion that somehow, in some yet undivined way, we are blessed with an all conquering side, a plethora of world beating talent. It's about to end. Once India are trounced in this series, a few pennies will drop, but it is not until they are destroyed by Australia in winter that Indian fans will stop living their lives through this game and think about paying their way in the world by doing what they do best- studying hard, burning the midnight candle, becoming great professionals in engineering, medicine & IT. Why is that a sixth of humanity has a scientific output of less than 1% of the world total? Ask you another question- how many years do you think the pre-eminence of BCCI will last? I make it no greater than three. Once this Indian side collapses, Indian fans see the light, the TV revenues dry up, rats will leave the sinking ship. Remember, these are men who give two hoots about cricket itself- some have never put on a pair of flannels and yet head the ICC. Never has so much mediocrity been so lavishly worshipped by so many or so recklessly bankrolled. It can't go on. All bubbles burst eventually. This one is overdue.

I am just seeing this Dhondy (who said nothing good ever came out of a thread bumped needlessly?) You have spoken my mind about Indian fans voracity on most things cricket today, and how often it is nothing but ignorance cloaked in the garb of nationalism. And why the hell not? We are here, we are stupid and we have Statsguru woohoo! Which is why much as I share your dismay about the state of Indian cricket, and its immediate future, I am not so sure if the failure in the next few series would actually do anything. The bulk of the fans will keep fighting with a "Yep we can not bat for life on a lively wicket but hey you can also not bat on dustbowls". We may have quite a bit in common across the border in accepting what is fairly obvious. :winky: xxx