Guest Gunner Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 http://www.twitvid.com/4JTZH :isalute: Respect. She is the kind of person you need to get on TV/Radio ASAP to reach out to the mob.
Jadoo Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I have no problems with the police imposing curfew and detaining people. However I cannot support brutal action like army' date=' shooting people etc. That is not right whichever way you argue it.[/quote'] Do you really think a curfew and being detained for a couple of days will be enough of a deterent for them not to do it again the following week/month? Who says we want them killed? Using force doesn't equate to getting them killed!! If brave policemen on the streets are fighting against yobs with baseball bats/knifes/samarai swords and are getting run over by by yobs driving cars, surely you can cut them some slack if they use their baton to defend themselves if not others!!
Vijay.Sharma Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 http://twitpic.com/636s93Now that tells some story http://www.twitvid.com/4JTZH :isalute:Seriously, respek! I know nothing about the actual ground realities of the race equation in UK. I never thought it was like the way it is in the US. But man this is some news - I feel rather safe and cherish my freedom and rights in Bangalore. Never knew UK had such a large amount of black population. Now imagine if the UK jihadi community joins hands with the rioters. Damn that would be a nightmare I think they should introduce curfew and stuff like that. Probably use some force to end the riot but mind you if the middle class population use this riot as an example and start calling for stricter control and force by the state in general then you would have walked straight into the elites' trap. Already the UK is such a highly policed country with big brother watching you 24*7 and on top of that if you give license to the state like the patriot act then you can kiss goodbye to meaningful freedom. All said and done, just can't relate to the kind of upheaval happening there.
anotherhawkeye Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Is this pent up frustration at social inequality being vented' date=' or just nutjobs doing their thang...[/quote'] If UK is anything like US, the former has at least something to do with the riots. People are fed up with no jobs and the trickle down economy is not working. Jobs are leaving to other countries, so there are no jobs for youngsters. Kids are asked to get college education to get job, but it is prohibitively expensive (in US). Even then not everyone has an iq of 140 plus, but there are only two kind of jobs in US - for people with low IQ and for people with high IQ. Those in the medium just toil with low end jobs. So far there is almost enough jobs for everyone, but the direction its heading is towards worse.
Guest Gunner Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Do you really think a curfew and being detained for a couple of days will be enough of a deterent for them not to do it again the following week/month? It is not like riots are common in London, is it? Why would you think it would keep happening? Who says we want them killed? Using force doesn't equate to getting them killed!! If brave policemen on the streets are fighting against yobs with baseball bats/knifes/samarai swords and are getting run over by by yobs driving cars' date=' surely you can cut them some slack if they use their baton to defend themselves if not others!![/quote'] Defending themselves and imposing a lockdown on the affected areas is fine. But shooting people is not.
King Tendulkar Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 O Mr. Che Guevara' date=' weren't you the one advocating that Indians should rip up our constitution and go after the corrupt in India? How forked our tongue is when we have to talk about something closer home, hey? Call in the army and shoot the brigands, is it? You hypocrite!![/quote'] I owned you in that one and will own you now. :giggle: Protesting peacefully and putting pressure on govt through peacefull means is one thing. Going on the rampage and destroying anything in sight is another. These bad boys are just nutters wanting fun and destruction. No doubt you back these gangsters cause! Pathetic comparison by you! You should be ashamed that you support the hooodies cause
Guest Gunner Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I owned you in that one and will own you now. :giggle: Protesting peacefully and putting pressure on govt through peacefull means is one thing. Going on the rampage and destroying anything in sight is another. These bad boys are just nutters wanting fun and destruction. No doubt you back these gangsters cause! Pathetic comparison by you! You should be ashamed that you support the hooodies cause Man you are ridiculous. I am yet to come across a person with such a poor understanding of various issues. Just like I stopped arguing with you then I am about to do the same now.
King Tendulkar Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Idiots like these need to be shot. Its people like gunner who cry everytime a policiemen so much as give some one a wrong look that are to blame. As they have resulted in the police being to scared to take proper forcefull action cos someone like gunner will video it and say look how brutal police is. Police need to get in there and break legs of these scum. The public will support it, apart from hoodies apologists. It also looks like police are right in focusing stop and searches on these kinds of scum, as you can see the type of hoodlums they are.
King Tendulkar Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Man you are ridiculous. I am yet to come across a person with such a poor understanding of various issues. Just like I stopped arguing with you then I am about to do the same now. Your the one who tried to compare the lokpal bill public peaceful protests in India , to this rampage. Strange that you are anti lokpal protests(peaceful) but pro rampage scum actions!
Guest Gunner Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Idiots like these need to be shot. Its people like gunner who cry everytime a policiemen so much as give some one a wrong look that are to blame. As they have resulted in the police being to scared to take proper forcefull action cos someone like gunner will video it and say look how brutal police is. Police need to get in there and break legs of these scum. The public will support it, apart from hoodies apologists. It also looks like police are right in focusing stop and searches on these kinds of scum, as you can see the type of hoodlums they are. Sure people will support it but it won't be the right thing. Populist reactions are usually driven by anger and not clear thinking. What you are suggesting will create us Vs them and an all out war. You will never solve the problem with that approach. Your the one who tried to compare the lokpal bill public peaceful protests in India ' date=' to this rampage. Strange that you are anti lokpal protests(peaceful) but pro rampage scum actions![/quote'] Nope, that is not what I did. I said the constitution must prevail and all actions should be within the confines of the constitution. I still believe that and this is the way it should be. I wasn't against the lokpal bill, I was against non-elected people attempting to draft it. What makes you think i am pro-rioting? :haha::haha:
asterix Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Bit of heavy hand and it would've stopped right on the first day. Compare this with the action Delhi police took today against the BJP Youth wing members during their protests which turned bit ugly. Teargas, Water Canon and "light laathi charge" helped in "controlling" the matter.. To take care of the legal issues, just impart Police restrictions or curfeu..THose who break those restrictions cannot claim legal redress against any resulting police actions..
kabira Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Impose F&cking curfew and shoot and sight orders...then see if won't stop..
Vijay.Sharma Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Idiots like these need to be shot. Its people like gunner who cry everytime a policiemen so much as give some one a wrong look that are to blame. As they have resulted in the police being to scared to take proper forcefull action cos someone like gunner will video it and say look how brutal police is. Police need to get in there and break legs of these scum. The public will support it, apart from hoodies apologists. It also looks like police are right in focusing stop and searches on these kinds of scum, as you can see the type of hoodlums they are.King Tendlya, I think you are being unfair to Gunna here. it is one thing to disagree with his point of view and quite another to generalize and paint him with such a broad brush. I note that in this thread Gunna also said something like "people like xyz...." and I don't agree with that either. Let's not see all that is evil to us in the opposite person just coz he disagrees with us on matters that cannot be viewed in black and white. Sorry for being preachy but just thought that a quick post like this can calm the tempers and keep ppl from getting carried away.
kabira Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 To my friend Gunner. See I am s*ck and tired of your view that Anna Hazare and company are ruining our democracy. Problem is you don't udnerstand the position and their viewpoint. They want several things to be included in the bill, and lot of ppl agree. Now they want this to be presented in the Parliament, Lokshaba and Rajyasabha, and they want debut on that. So I don't understand when you keep refering how they are ruining our democracy and they are not elected members. For f&cks sack no bill is drafted solely by elected ministers, its always experts from civil society.
ganeshran Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 They should let Delhi police handle these rioters.. do din mein sab normal ho jayega
King Tendulkar Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Sure people will support it but it won't be the right thing. Populist reactions are usually driven by anger and not clear thinking. What you are suggesting will create us Vs them and an all out war. You will never solve the problem with that approach. Nope, that is not what I did. I said the constitution must prevail and all actions should be within the confines of the constitution. I still believe that and this is the way it should be. I wasn't against the lokpal bill, I was against non-elected people attempting to draft it. What makes you think i am pro-rioting? :haha::haha: The fact that you have compared and brought in to this people fasting out of protest against a corrupt govt shows your utter confusion.
King Tendulkar Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 They should let Delhi police handle these rioters.. do din mein sab normal ho jayega Excatly. They would sort this out in 10 minutes and have them pissing in their pants:hysterical:
Jadoo Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 It is not like riots are common in London' date=' is it? Why would you think it would keep happening?[/quote'] These aren't riots mate, this is thuggery/robbery plain and simple. And if these groups of people go around knowing full well that they chances of them being confronted and brought to justice are slim, than they will go around looting. Worse case scenario for them atm is being road blocked by the police, and in the slim chance that they are caught they know it will probably mean either a community service order or a very short prison sentence. Don't get me wrong, but these are small prices to pay. No shooting? What if they are carrying guns which is not uncommon with these lot? I mean, their not going around with knives to cut their oranges and apples.
jaggadaku Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 looters having a field day http://catchalooter.tumblr.com/page/2 where the **** is police
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