Broad vs Morkel/English vs SA bowling attack

[nsareen]

You win tests by you bowling lineup' date=' tamin iqbal was hammering them and they were scared and recently lankans hammered them except for one session, unless england bowl well to tamin iqbal,when ball does not swing then we can think about it period[/quote'] :haha: Dude get over it, do not repeat whatever i say, go back and see the results of the series you are talking about , England Bullied them 2-0. Tamim had fun in the series, i'm sure he would not be able to repeat the performances again, Good attacks plan well against good batsman, see how our batsman are getting raped psychologically, raina is being made to believe, i mean BELIEVE, that he cannot play Short Pitch Bowling, Tendulkar is getting out to swing always, you can make out there is a fuc king plan for eveyone. next time bangladesh go there, tamim would not have a easy ride as he did this time around.

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Tamim hammered them in england and bangladesh,they were saying he is one of best batsman in world, unless they have bowled well outside their country in sub continent or wi like sa you cannot compare,we have seen what happened after 2005 ashes when they toured pak with a better attack than this

[nsareen]

Tamim hammered them in england and bangladesh' date='they were saying he is one of best batsman in world, unless they have bowled well outside their country in sub continent or wi like sa you cannot compare,we have seen what happened after 2005 ashes when they toured pak with a better attack than this[/quote'] Frankly i have no clue about what you are trying to say, you are bloody comparing Tamim's batting and saying they are no good, if they were saying he is the one of the best, then you should believe in it and shut. They are the best in the world right now, they are also saying Indians are not playing as a No.1 Team in the World, do you disagree with them ??? they are saying, Indians are not playing with a lot of desire, do you disagree with them ???? they are saying, we have plans for every batsman ???? do you disagree with them ??? they are saying, sehwag would not make a difference, do you disagree with them ???? THE ANSWER IS ****IN NO!!!! YOU DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THEM. So yes Tamim could be the one of the best in the world, but still the team lost, because the english bowling was wAAAAAY Better than the Bangla's. So Stop the ****in debate, and get a hold over yourself, accept the fact that English are good, SA or any other ****in team's bowling is pussy in front of them. We can't do much, saying they are no good, will not make them STOP taking wickets, they are taking wickets, everywhere ,anywhere, however way.

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Frankly i have no clue about what you are trying to say, you are bloody comparing Tamim's batting and saying they are no good, if they were saying he is the one of the best, then you should believe in it and shut. They are the best in the world right now, they are also saying Indians are not playing as a No.1 Team in the World, do you disagree with them ??? they are saying, Indians are not playing with a lot of desire, do you disagree with them ???? they are saying, we have plans for every batsman ???? do you disagree with them ??? they are saying, sehwag would not make a difference, do you disagree with them ???? THE ANSWER IS ****IN NO!!!! YOU DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THEM. So yes Tamim could be the one of the best in the world, but still the team lost, because the english bowling was wAAAAAY Better than the Bangla's. So Stop the ****in debate, and get a hold over yourself, accept the fact that English are good, SA or any other ****in team's bowling is pussy in front of them. We can't do much, saying they are no good, will not make them STOP taking wickets, they are taking wickets, everywhere ,anywhere, however way.

Where mate ? They struggled to get 20 srilankans wickets ,they were defeated by wi in wi ,have bowled well in australia that's it ,english bowler have always bowled well at home, english commentators were saying before the series how england bowlers cannot take wikets on good conditions,so first let them take wickets and win outside then we can discuss as sa have done it all

[nsareen]

Where mate ? They struggled to get 20 srilankans wickets ' date=they were defeated by wi in wi ,have bowled well in australia that's it ,english bowler have always bowled well at home, english commentators were saying before the series how england bowlers cannot take wikets on good conditions,so first let them take wickets and win outside then we can discuss as sa have done it all

Are you serious ??? This is the time ,when they started Alarming India, BEWARE OF TREMLETT. and the Indian's Pissed in their nappies when they faced him. Specially Raina , Dhoni

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Are you serious ??? This is the time ,when they started Alarming India, BEWARE OF TREMLETT. and the Indian's Pissed in their nappies when they faced him. Specially Raina , Dhoni

Alarming india as they were playing in england ,go watch lanka matches .if they are best bowling side they will prove it in abu dhabi or they will ne hammered as most other english sides of past

[nsareen]

Alarming india as they were playing in england ' date='go watch lanka matches .if they are best bowling side they will prove it in abu dhabi or they will ne hammered as most other english sides of past[/quote'] It's the same series you are talking about where Sangakkara only had one century, and all failures, same series where tremlett took his 6 wickets. it's the same series where 4 out of top 5 bowlers were English in wicket takers list, and tremlett leads them. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=6109;type=series It's the same series where top three batsman are English http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=6109;type=series Is this the same series which England won ??? maybe you are talking about some other series !!!1

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Yes its the same series where dilshan hammered 200 , its the same series where swann was hammered,its the same series where parnavitana hammered them and its the same series where srilanka drew 2 tests and should have dffawn three tests and its the same series where broad was hammered,

[FreakazoiD]

It is natural for Indian supporters to downplay the English bowling line-up because we probably hate their guts right now for having humiliated our celebrity batsmen so badly. We are also secretly wishing SA to extract "revenge" on our behalf. But those who do not let emotions cloud their judgement (and this is the hard part for Indian supporters) will realise that England's attack is easily the most balanced in world cricket at the moment. SA have Steyn and Morkel but nothing beyond. And Steyn does not bowl at 150 (Morkel does); Broad and Bresnan definitely match up in terms of speed. If England choose to play Tremlett ahead of Bopara, their attack will be unplayable. Further, England possess a much stronger batting side than SA can even dream of, with a good mix of attacking and defensive batsmen capable of scoring at 6 an over in test cricket. I think England will trounce SA 3-0 when they play them next, whether at home or away. I can see this England side going on dominate test cricket for a while now.

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It is natural for Indian supporters to downplay the English bowling line-up because we probably hate their guts right now for having humiliated our celebrity batsmen so badly. We are also secretly wishing SA to extract "revenge" on our behalf. But those who do not let emotions cloud their judgement (and this is the hard part for Indian supporters) will realise that England's attack is easily the most balanced in world cricket at the moment. SA have Steyn and Morkel but nothing beyond. And Steyn does not bowl at 150 (Morkel does); Broad and Bresnan definitely match up in terms of speed. If England choose to play Tremlett ahead of Bopara, their attack will be unplayable. Further, England possess a much stronger batting side than SA can even dream of, with a good mix of attacking and defensive batsmen capable of scoring at 6 an over in test cricket. I think England will trounce SA 3-0 when they play them next, whether at home or away. I can see this England side going on dominate test cricket for a while now.

Haaaahhaaaaaaaa why would indian fans make english attack look bad ,it would be better for them to say we lost as they bowled fast, but fact are facts go tell anybody broad and bresnan match steyn and morkel in terms of speed they will laugh at you, let them dominate pak in abu dhabi first then we will see if they are good and broad and bresnan rarely touch 140 bowl mostly at 130

[Serani]

You will see Broads pace in the ODI's, no need to go full steam ahead in tests or you will just get injured, steyn bowled low to mid 80's in tests and usually bends his back for one hostile spell per innings.

[Serani]

Yes its the same series where dilshan hammered 200 ' date=' its the same series where swann was hammered,its the same series where parnavitana hammered them and its the same series where srilanka drew 2 tests and should have dffawn three tests and its the same series where broad was hammered,[/quote'] If there was no rain it would have been 3-0 england you idiot.

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You will see Broads pace in the ODI's' date=' no need to go full steam ahead in tests or you will just get injured, steyn bowled low to mid 80's in tests and usually bends his back for one hostile spell per innings.[/quote'] Steyn and morkel are fast bowlers ,broad is fast medium so diff of 10 km is there,

[Serani]

Steyn and morkel are fast bowlers ' date='broad is fast medium so diff of 10 km is there,[/quote'] In ODI's Broad opeates in the high 80's and low 90's. Steyn is no quicker.

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If there was no rain? it would have been 3-0 england you idiot.

Idiot if there was no bad light and weather england could have lost in sa ,mate are u sick? Or are u indian ,why you waste time here and where do you live birmingham or bihar?

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In ODI's Broad opeates in the high 80's and low 90's. Steyn is no quicker.

We are talking about test, anyways broad is not same class as steyn

[rkt.india]

Well i think we are comparing the bowling of the two teams, not the batting, they were in the position because of the batting not bowling. Another stat i would have to throw at you. Best bowling in that series. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/best_figures_innings.html?id=4926;type=series 3 out of 5 are again from England. Dude Australia dominated the world not by only bowling fast at 150+ kmph, but by skill, spin, swing and seam, Which the English possess these days. We may hate them for anything, but it has to be acknowledged, they are the top in the Bowling department as of now. they raped Australia in Australia, needs to be appreciated.

Look at average and SR of Steyn and Morkel...no comparison to England's.

[FreakazoiD]

Haaaahhaaaaaaaa why would indian fans make english attack look bad ' date='it would be better for them to say we lost as they bowled fast, but fact are facts go tell anybody broad and bresnan match steyn and morkel in terms of speed they will laugh at you, let them dominate pak in abu dhabi first then we will see if they are good[/quote'] I said Broad and Bresnan match Steyn in speed, not Morkel. If you watched the last Ind v SA series where the pitches were even quicker (even Sreesanth was averaging 135kph), Steyn averaged 142 (148 was probably his quickest). Broad and Bresnan have been bowling at 138-140 in this series (Sreesanth has averaged 130), and if you add 5kph for the SA pitches, they easily match up. Truth is these English pitches have been quite docile compared to the SA ones (its the excessive swing that has defeated our batsmen) To your point on Abu Dhabi, the SA attack (and Morkel in particular) hasn't exactly set the world on fire either. But agreed, let's wait and watch how Broad and co perform in Abu Dhabi, which will be more of a test than India!

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Look at average and SR of Steyn and Morkel...no comparison to England's.

Only fools or fanboys can compare steyn and morkel to broad and bresnan.they are forgetting how they have been hammered away from home and by tamim iqbal

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I said Broad and Bresnan match Steyn in speed, not Morkel. If you watched the last Ind v SA series where the pitches were even quicker (even Sreesanth was averaging 135kph), Steyn averaged 142 (148 was probably his quickest). Broad and Bresnan have been bowling at 138-140 in this series (Sreesanth has averaged 130), and if you add 5kph for the SA pitches, they easily match up. Truth is these English pitches have been quite docile compared to the SA ones (its the excessive swing that has defeated our batsmen) To your point on Abu Dhabi, the SA attack (and Morkel in particular) hasn't exactly set the world on fire either. But agreed, let's wait and watch how Broad and co perform in Abu Dhabi, which will be more of a test than India!

Broad and bresnan have averaged 132 km in the series not 140, its not only speed broad does not have a stock ball when there is no help from pitch and bresnan is just starting