Broad vs Morkel/English vs SA bowling attack

[rkt.india]

Only fools or fanboys can compare steyn and morkel to broad and bresnan.they are forgetting how they have been hammered away from home and by tamim iqbal

Morkel was Hostile yaar. That was an exhibition of fast bowling by Morkel in all the 3 tests and Styen gave tutorial about fast swing bowling. I still wonder how these who could not play Broad and Bresnan survived against that kind of bowling where all three pitches were nasty to start with. Morkal was really unlucky most of the times, otherwise he could have had 5-fer in every innings there. Only Ambrose, Holding, Garner could have bowled like that what Morne Morkal bowled...consistently quick and on target. Gambhir was blasted by him on the body many a times.

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Morkel was Hostile yaar. That was an exhibition of fast bowling by Morkel in all the 3 tests and Styen gave tutorial about fast swing bowling. I still wonder how these who could not play Broad and Bresnan survived against that kind of bowling where all three pitches were nasty to start with. Morkal was really unlucky most of the times, otherwise he could have had 5-fer in every innings there. Only Ambrose, Holding, Garner could have bowled like that what Morne Morkal bowled...consistently quick and on target. Gambhir was blasted by him on the body many a times.

Yaar we are are not playing with same intensity here and sachin is not in form and we do not respect their english attack as much sa and good news on aaron he bowled well in australia cannot wait for him to get a chance in team india

[nsareen]

Look at average and SR of Steyn and Morkel...no comparison to England's.

what about the rest , when you sat bowling attack it's not just 2 bowlers dude. It's 4-5 bowlers and variety. Morkel can't bowl like swan to fill the spinner's role, Imran tahir is nowhere close to test cricket as of now. When he proves himself, their attack becomes even more potent. But comparing now the two attacks, i would give 9.5 to england and 8.5 to SA, India 4.5

[nsareen]

Only fools or fanboys can compare steyn and morkel to broad and bresnan.they are forgetting how they have been hammered away from home and by tamim iqbal

Fools like you consider 2 bowlers as a Bowling attack. This is a bowling attack thread in the first place. Engrave that somewhere, before writing bullshit here.

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Fools like you consider 2 bowlers as a Bowling attack. This is a bowling attack thread in the first place. Engrave that somewhere' date=' before writing bullshit here.[/quote'] fool those 2 bowlers are better than whole english attack who have been hammered by tamim iqbal

[nsareen]

fool those 2 bowlers are better than whole english attack who have been hammered by tamim iqbal

That's AWESOME denial.. of the facts.... good going.. become a politician.

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what about the rest , when you sat bowling attack it's not just 2 bowlers dude. It's 4-5 bowlers and variety. Morkel can't bowl like swan to fill the spinner's role, Imran tahir is nowhere close to test cricket as of now. When he proves himself, their attack becomes even more potent. But comparing now the two attacks, i would give 9.5 to england and 8.5 to SA, India 4.5

England have had the same attack and lost to wi in wi , let them win away before they can be compared with sa who have wins in ind,pak,wi

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That's AWESOME denial.. of the facts.... good going.. become a politician.

What facts which series have england own outside if they had best bowling attack ,you need a atleast one genuine quick in attack which england lack and will be exposed against pak in abudhabi,be sure to bump the thread

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What facts which series have england own outside if they had best bowling attack ' date='you need a atleast one genuine quick in attack which england lack and will be exposed against pak in abudhabi,be sure to bump the thread[/quote'] Also the best bowling attack has averages of 3o,32,29 then god save standard of bowling attacks in world and that too when they play in fav conditions

[nsareen]

Also the best bowling attack has averages of 3o' date='32,29 then god save standard of bowling attacks in world and that too when they play in fav conditions[/quote'] well i've given you all the facts, taking out all the series, wickets, you are going by series victories. well by the way they are going now, looks like they will get there too. australia dint get up one day and started winning everywhere, even by branded world champions in ODI's Tests, they could not win a series in India, until their dawn was near. So thats no excuse to not give a team it's appreciation it deserves.

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well i've given you all the facts' date=' taking out all the series, wickets, you are going by series victories. well by the way they are going now, looks like they will get there too. australia dint get up one day and started winning everywhere, even by branded world champions in ODI's Tests, they could not win a series in India, until their dawn was near. So thats no excuse to not give a team it's appreciation it deserves.[/quote'] I am giving you real facts takings wickets in series you lose is useless ,australian bowlers and batsman dominated stats in ashes series in england but they lostand its hard to appreciate bowlers who have averages of 30 and 32 and 29 in favourable conditions and england have yet to win outside england excpet aus who are now ranked 5,we all know how the great ashes attack which was comparable to wi attack did in sub continent,I see this attack is worse than hoggard,flintoff,harmy,jones,anderson,giles.

[nsareen]

I am giving you real facts takings wickets in series you lose is useless ' date='australian bowlers and batsman dominated stats in ashes series in england but they lostand its hard to appreciate bowlers who have averages of 30 and 32 and 29 in favourable conditions and england have yet to win outside england excpet aus who are now ranked 5,we all know how the great ashes attack which was comparable to wi attack did in sub continent,[b']I see this attack is worse than hoggard,flintoff,harmy,jones,anderson,giles.

:giggle::giggle: , flint off said himself, this teams better than 2005's

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:giggle::giggle: ' date=' flint off said himself, this teams better than 2005's[/quote'] So you expect him to say they were better, they defeated a good australian side with hayden, warne, lee and mcgrath got injured ,if you believe that this rolly polly attack is better than those then I am sure you are a kid who did not watch that series.they had 5 bowlers then

[nsareen]

So you expect him to say they were better' date=' they defeated a good australian side with hayden, warne, lee and mcgrath got injured ,if you believe that this rolly polly attack is better than those then I am sure you are [b']a kid who did not watch that series.

:hysterical: a kid could say that this side has won more series than the one in 2005, in 2005 england got SMASHED 5-0 in Australia, whereas this time around they Smashed australia in England and Australia. Seems you are a grown up with little or no knowledge of teams consistency. up your knowledge before putting up these farce stories. go to sleep now.

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:hysterical: a kid could say that this side has won more series than the one in 2005, in 2005 england got SMASHED 5-0 in Australia, whereas this time around they Smashed australia in England and Australia. Seems you are a grown up with little or no knowledge of teams consistency. up your knowledge before putting up these farce stories. go to sleep now.

They were smashed by the great australian side if hayden langer,mcgrath,warne were playing in the last two ashes series englabd could have whitewashed ,now I am sure you are a kid , am I right

[nsareen]

They were smashed by the great australian side if hayden langer' date='mcgrath,warne were playing in the last two ashes series englabd could have whitewashed ,now I am sure you are a kid , am I right[/quote'] Oh! really the Great side, just got greater within months, you mean to say ? they lost in England, then they found greatness by drinking god knows Australian Milk and then they beat England 5-0. Well that doesn't make sense to me. Now go to sleep again.

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Oh! really the Great side' date=' just got greater within months, you mean to say ? they lost in England, then they found greatness by drinking god knows Australian Milk and then they beat England 5-0. Well that doesn't make sense to me. Now go to sleep again.[/quote'] Sorry I will not reply to a kid like u anymore,you are good with cricinfo stats go check how many test aus lost with mcgrath ,warne playing in aus, beating aus in aus with those two playing was impossible only westindies did it in 90,s .and 2005 ashes series every game went to wire .I cannot believe you are asking such questions have u not watches australian domination of 90,s and 2000,s

[nsareen]

They were smashed by the great australian side if hayden langer' date='mcgrath,warne were playing in the last two ashes series englabd could have whitewashed ,now I am sure you are a kid , am I right[/quote'] However was the 2005 side with the great harmison and the great flintoff. This side got thrashed, by who ever , 5-0 is a humiliation, which can end careers. Quite of these players played in the 2005 series, that's what makes this team more consistent, experienced, strong with more all round capabilities. Look at the damn Tail : Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Anderson, do you call this Tail ??? They are a threat to any country, any bowling attack. They will beat more teams that before, because of this ability, believe it or not, if a team has such strength in the lower down the order, Players who can change the state of the Game with Bat or Bowl are PRECIOUS. Broad : With Bat : 169 vs pakistan Broad : With Bowl: 6 wickets against India. Bresnan : 90 with bat, 5 wickets against india. Broad: 50+ runs in ODI, in 2009 i guess,won the match against India. So many freaking examples. Go see some games before blabbering. I would have these 3 in my Team anytime, all 3 match winning All Rounders.

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However was the 2005 side with the great harmison and the great flintoff. This side got thrashed, by who ever , 5-0 is a humiliation, which can end careers. Quite of these players played in the 2005 series, that's what makes this team more consistent, experienced, strong with more all round capabilities. Look at the damn Tail : Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Anderson, do you call this Tail ??? They are a threat to any country, any bowling attack. They will beat more teams that before, because of this ability, believe it or not, if a team has such strength in the lower down the order, Players who can change the state of the Game with Bat or Bowl are PRECIOUS. Broad : With Bat : 169 vs pakistan Broad : With Bowl: 6 wickets against India. Bresnan : 90 with bat, 5 wickets against india. Broad: 50+ runs in ODI, in 2009 i guess,won the match against India. So many freaking examples. Go see some games before blabbering. I would have these 3 in my Team anytime, all 3 match winning All Rounders.

Allrounder my foot, playing against warne,mcgrath,lee,gillespie these so called allrounders would hardly score a run, india tail with bhajji, ishant,zak have won us more matches than english tail , we are talking about bowling attacks by the way and against quality spin or pace they will get out as swann is a slogger and anderson is blocker, and broad and bresnan can be allrounders but still long way to go both are just starting .

[nsareen]

Sorry I will not reply to a kid like u anymore' date='you are good with cricinfo stats go check how many test aus lost with mcgrath ,warne playing in aus, beating aus in aus with those two playing was impossible only westindies did it in 90,s .and 2005 ashes series every game went to wire .I cannot believe you are asking such questions have u not watches australian domination of 90,s and 2000,s[/quote'] Dude time's changed. The context changed. The problem is you want to stick to your petty ideas, i keep reminding you that , the thread you are writing into, is a comparison of SA vs English Attack, has nothing to do with Australia. You hear things you do not want to hear from me because you are forcing me to bring your attention to what are we debating on since the past 6-7 hrs. OKAY!!! I hope you get the Jist this time. If you want to overwhelm yourself with Australia's greatness, i can join you in another thead which talks specifically about it. Okay, I can probably write and provide more facts and figures about their greatness, which you would not have seen or heard. So let's cut the debate here.