Rajiv Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Job seekers allowance? Hold on - is this UK. So you get paid *enough* while you are looking for work but for how long?
achilles Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Its not just the English team which has people from other countries. Its their fans as well, who are loaned from Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka.... and these days, their favourite tourist destination - Pakistan.
CricketGirl Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Job seekers allowance? Hold on - is this UK. So you get paid *enough* while you are looking for work but for how long? for as long as your actively seeking i think the criteria for that is something like proving you have spent 4 hours or more per week actively looking, that can be filling in applications, interviews or just walking around town asking for jobs!! oh btw did you also know that while claiming JSA you can also claim Housing benefit so that 4 bedroom house in kensington housing your family of 7 will get paid for too! off topic i know! but i needed to rant about that! :P
Rajiv Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 ^^ Thats just unreal, and I am sure it's abused to the tee!
ganeshran Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Wobblydoggy was a decent english poster on ICF.
CricketGirl Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 ^^ Thats just unreal, and I am sure it's abused to the tee! of course it is!! things have improved a little now that the government has cut how much they pay for Housing Benefit so now the difference is these people can no longer afford to live in very central parts of london anymore but yeah i would say only 20% of the people in the system need the assistance the rest simply know how to abuse the system!! In that 20% your looking at individuals with physical/sensory impairment, terminal illness or severe mental health issues the rest all seem to have bizarre back problems and personality disorders that cannot be proved in anyway but the health system (because the even the GP's get sick of them being in their surgery all the time) keeps providing them with the drugs they need to stay in the benefit cycle!!!
ganeshran Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Does the government release details of benefits spending? How much money is spent on it? What is the breakup per region and all. Does the whole thing come under the right to information? If so, it should be easy to identify cases where benefits are misused. Its like insurance fraud, more the number of people do it, the higher everyone else's premium goes up
CricketGirl Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Does the government release details of benefits spending? How much money is spent on it? What is the breakup per region and all. Does the whole thing come under the right to information? If so, it should be easy to identify cases where benefits are misused. Its like insurance fraud, more the number of people do it, the higher everyone else's premium goes up Yes those figures are published i cant remember where but they are available, its not as easy to identify the fraudsters from the genuine plus dont forget the people in the benefits system make up a percentage of voters so cutting benefits does not go in favour of politicians - the recent riots were an "apparent" cry for help!! Benefit cuts + Job losses + rise in cost of living =???
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 ^^ Thats just unreal, and I am sure it's abused to the tee! Y do u thnk Pakis r the biggest immigrant populatn there?
ganeshran Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Yes those figures are published i cant remember where but they are available' date=' its not as easy to identify the fraudsters from the genuine plus dont forget the people in the benefits system make up a percentage of voters so cutting benefits does not go in favour of politicians - the recent riots were an "apparent" cry for help!! Benefit cuts + Job losses + rise in cost of living =???[/quote'] An effective way could be to build a system which can identify families that are claiming benefits above a certain threshold (from various schemes). Continuous high claims for a sustained period are an indicator of potential fraud. It could then be passed to an assessor who can check the claims by the families with additional scrutiny and prevent the fraud.
Blue Panther Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Most of them are phacking pakis. I hate them to the core. Spread like virus.
Vijay.Sharma Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I mean this thread must be a joke' date=' you really think in real life that these english fans will be making any attempt to "troll" you? Im sure if you met me in RL you would be saying ah what a great guy, really loves his cricket and banter. This is the internet....[/quote']Why abuse anonymity, mate?
Vijay.Sharma Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Thats why i said........ASIANS suffer.......coz of PAKIS.... Benefits are for genuine people...who honestly need it.....not for Haramkhori which the Pakis do.... a Pakis from UK said he saw a muslim working in a bar..........thats haraam and he should sit at home and enjoy the benefits as that is halal.............they are the most ridiculous people in the world....thats why no one wants them in theri country.That's not a Paki speaking that is his religion speaking. But it's a sensitive thing - religion. I think UK has effed itself up with this. Well alright if working in a bar is haraam then the guy can obviously work in a butcher shop, or as a janitor, or as a community serviceman, or anything else - why dunn he work at a place that is considered "halaal"?
Vijay.Sharma Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 My gut feel is that Pakis use their religion as a shield to avail of these benefits when they are the least qualified to represent Islam. They effing bastards give the whole of Islam a bad name. But this phenomenon must be more pronounced in the UK than in the US, innit?
ganeshran Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 If a person doesn't want to do a job that is not allowed in their religion, it is perfectly fine. That is personal choice regardless of whether it is motivated by religion or anything else. If a perfectly able person sits at home and enjoys benefits rather than work, then you need to fix the system to deny benefits to a lazy person, you cannot really force work upon anyone. However, The problem when comes when one's religious views are used to judge/forced upon someone else which is a complete no no.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 If a person doesn't want to do a job that is not allowed in their religion, it is perfectly fine. That is personal choice regardless of whether it is motivated by religion or anything else. If a perfectly able person sits at home and enjoys benefits rather than work, then you need to fix the system to deny benefits to a lazy person, you cannot really force work upon anyone. However, The problem when comes when one's religious views are used to judge/forced upon someone else which is a complete no no. Pakis are doing the second one brilliantly...... The problem is Pakis are uneducated,lazy and incompetent.Have a superiority complex and love to suck on the benefits.If you try to confront them on these issues,they will bring their religion to defend themselves and term it ISLAMOPHOBIA. They have a feeling that hey are the leading light in Islam and every muslim supports them....
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 That's not a Paki speaking that is his religion speaking. But it's a sensitive thing - religion. I think UK has effed itself up with this. Well alright if working in a bar is haraam then the guy can obviously work in a butcher shop' date=' or as a janitor, or as a community serviceman, or anything else - why dunn he work at a place that is considered "halaal"?[/quote'] If you are so sensitive about your religion then why not live in an islamic country?But no they will go to a secular country and force their religion on the society,demands for things to be done for their religion.I think Pakis are the biggest innigrant muslims around the world....as most middle easten eastern european and other countries stay in their own countries. Also see my reply above to GANESHRAN
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 My gut feel is that Pakis use their religion as a shield to avail of these benefits when they are the least qualified to represent Islam. They effing bastards give the whole of Islam a bad name. But this phenomenon must be more pronounced in the UK than in the US' date=' innit?[/quote'] Exactly!!!!!!!!!
Blue Panther Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Why not the mods ban them? mods sent warnings to me, i wonder how many of them were sent to few guys who are clearly trolls, pakis in disguise.!!
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