nsareen Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 BANGALORE: When birthday boy Zaheer Khan walked into the hotel lobby on Friday after taking his initial steps towards rehabilitation at the National Cricket Academy, he immediately set the hearts of a few pretty faces aflutter. India, too, are hoping their injured pace spearhead will send shivers down the spines of opposition batsmen sooner than later. The 33-year-old spoke to TOI on a range of issues. Excerpts: What does it take to be a fast bowler in India? It's not a natural thing. Indian bodies are not designed to bowl fast but that said, it's not very different from bowling outside India. Basically you have to spend a lot of time understanding yourself, your art, and then find out what works for you and what doesn't. It also involves a lot of hard work. How hard is it to lead an Indian attack? I enjoy playing at the highest level. That's my biggest motivation. The additional responsibility that I have only makes me more motivated to think not just about my game only but also the other bowlers. I like to give them the right advice, talk about what works at the highest level, how you can plan to get batsmen out. There are various components to this which I share with my colleagues. What do you think of the fast bowling talent in India? We've got plenty of talent coming. We've produced good bowlers in the past and I see a lot of youngsters coming, which is promising. You see someone like Ishant (Sharma), who came in so early, and he's now taking responsibility, that's great. Why do Indian bowlers come into the side bowling close to 140kph, and then end up closer to 130kph? I don't think it's the pressure of international cricket. It's about trying to adapt to the international level, where the room for error is less. You can't always do at the international level what you do at domestic level. You need to understand your bowling style and work on fitness that much more. The bottom line is as long you are able to produce results, it is fine. I also dropped pace, so basically it's important to know what works for you at the international level and put that into practice. Do you agree that there is too much chopping and changing by the selectors, especially when it comes to pacers? Not really, it's all part of the game. Injuries have also played a crucial part. Again, you see a lot of bowlers are coming up. It's about who grabs the opportunity. County cricket helped you. Would you recommend it to fellow quicks? The bottom line is match practice. Experience is something which is valued and you gain that by playing matches. No matter how hard you try at the nets, the match scenario is completely different. As for county cricket, their season is the off season in India, that's why I would recommend it, but again the bottom line is more matches, wherever you play. Injuries to hamstring, groin, ankle and shoulder - how do you cope? Not really. Injuries are part and parcel of fast bowling. One just has to deal with it, control the controllables and be patient. The key is to make sure you come back stronger every time. How's the treatment coming along and when do you expect to take the field again? It's been good. I had an ankle surgery and all I can say at this point is that things are looking good. Progress has been slow but I'm not putting too much pressure on myself. I'm also not putting a timeline to my return. I did bowl from two steps today, and it felt really good. How frustrating was it to get injured in the first Test in England? It happens. I wanted to play badly but what can one do. I was 100% fit when I landed in England and didn't rush my return in any way but picked up another injury. That's the way the game goes.
Blue Panther Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 . How frustrating was it to get injured in the first Test in England? It happens. I wanted to play badly but what can one do. I was 100% fit when I landed in England and didn't rush my return in any way but picked up another injury. That's the way the game goes. Trying to deceive himself and the fans. Idiot :finger:
nsareen Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 probably the most unathletic nation on earth. why don't you keep your surfeit abhorrence thoughts to yourself, this post refers to fast bowling, not athleticism.
Blue Panther Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 probably the most unathletic nation on earth. How many medals pakis won in asian athletic championship???:--D:finger:
vamos_rafa Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 probably the most unathletic nation on earth. Atleast we don't faint after spending 2 days in a foreign land because of depression.
podi wije Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 "It's not a natural thing. Indian bodies are not designed to bowl fast" what the hell that suppose to mean? something like ,Indians are not fit enough to bowl fast?
veer Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 probably the most unathletic nation on earth. I wont argue with this statement.. our history at olympics is shameful.. argue abt the message not the messenger folks..
nsareen Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 I wont argue with this statement.. our history at olympics is shameful.. argue abt the message not the messenger folks.. well get your facts right before making foolish statements, there are many other nations who perform well under what india performs, go do some research first. saying the most unathletic nation displays immaturity and indicates how desperate this punk is to seek attention seek, and loves to see people burning their blood when he writes something like this.
ChanaLal Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 BANGALORE: When birthday boy Zaheer Khan walked into the hotel lobby on Friday after taking his initial steps towards rehabilitation at the National Cricket Academy, he immediately set the hearts of a few pretty faces aflutter. India, too, are hoping their injured pace spearhead will send shivers down the spines of opposition batsmen sooner than later. The 33-year-old spoke to TOI on a range of issues. Excerpts: What does it take to be a fast bowler in India? It's not a natural thing. Indian bodies are not designed to bowl fast but that said, it's not very different from bowling outside India. Basically you have to spend a lot of time understanding yourself, your art, and then find out what works for you and what doesn't. It also involves a lot of hard work. How hard is it to lead an Indian attack? I enjoy playing at the highest level. That's my biggest motivation. The additional responsibility that I have only makes me more motivated to think not just about my game only but also the other bowlers. I like to give them the right advice, talk about what works at the highest level, how you can plan to get batsmen out. There are various components to this which I share with my colleagues. What do you think of the fast bowling talent in India? We've got plenty of talent coming. We've produced good bowlers in the past and I see a lot of youngsters coming, which is promising. You see someone like Ishant (Sharma), who came in so early, and he's now taking responsibility, that's great. Why do Indian bowlers come into the side bowling close to 140kph, and then end up closer to 130kph? I don't think it's the pressure of international cricket. It's about trying to adapt to the international level, where the room for error is less. You can't always do at the international level what you do at domestic level. You need to understand your bowling style and work on fitness that much more. The bottom line is as long you are able to produce results, it is fine. I also dropped pace, so basically it's important to know what works for you at the international level and put that into practice. Do you agree that there is too much chopping and changing by the selectors, especially when it comes to pacers? Not really, it's all part of the game. Injuries have also played a crucial part. Again, you see a lot of bowlers are coming up. It's about who grabs the opportunity. County cricket helped you. Would you recommend it to fellow quicks? The bottom line is match practice. Experience is something which is valued and you gain that by playing matches. No matter how hard you try at the nets, the match scenario is completely different. As for county cricket, their season is the off season in India, that's why I would recommend it, but again the bottom line is more matches, wherever you play. Injuries to hamstring, groin, ankle and shoulder - how do you cope? Not really. Injuries are part and parcel of fast bowling. One just has to deal with it, control the controllables and be patient. The key is to make sure you come back stronger every time. How's the treatment coming along and when do you expect to take the field again? It's been good. I had an ankle surgery and all I can say at this point is that things are looking good. Progress has been slow but I'm not putting too much pressure on myself. I'm also not putting a timeline to my return. I did bowl from two steps today, and it felt really good. How frustrating was it to get injured in the first Test in England? It happens. I wanted to play badly but what can one do. I was 100% fit when I landed in England and didn't rush my return in any way but picked up another injury. That's the way the game goes. would have been good to ask him how to bowl faster and where pace comes from... then again a blank answer wouldn't look good
MCcricket Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Zaheer normally a sensible guy , probably making a point in context of a question, the only logical side to it is if you compare Windies greats Holding, Garner, Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh who were naturally gifted players, Very fluent rhythmic action , generating pace without much effort, avoiding a lot of injuries. If you just look at bowlers and countries with most injury prone players then it has to be England, maybe it is the brittle bone , lack of sun.Indians have good flexibilty, and ligaments, bones strength then their Caucasian counterparts but we being a poorer nation and less developed have some limitations.What we lack in general is fitness levels, more sports based culture, average person being smaller and in general not aggressive minded in general as say for example Aussies or Pakis. Also India being a big country people from Punjab, U P, dELHI SIDE, HAVE DIFFERENT TRAITS THEN PEOPLE FROM SOUTH.So that would be a mistake in generalizing the population.
panesarv Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Its got nothing to do with Indian bodies :S Pakis are same as us and they're doing just fine. It's all about motivation and having stars that youngsters can look up to
podi wije Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 both pakistan and sri lanka got number of fast bowlers who can generate good pace.yeah its nothing to do with bodies.
Tiger80 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Zaheer khan shouldn't be spending so much time thinking about the limits of "Indian bodies". I've seen immeasurably fitter "Indian bodies" at Kolkata maidans playing for local football clubs. Instead' date=' he must consider being a little honest with his fans and behave responsibly whilst playing for the India team.[/quote'] I don't think Zaheer is wrong here about Indian bodies.If Kolkatta football clubs have so much fitter bodies then why do they need African players African players add extra kick to Indian football http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/SportsArchive/artikel.php?ID=179872 I think Blacks and whites are much more genetically gifted in Athletics than the entire South Asia
Tiger80 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 both pakistan and sri lanka got number of fast bowlers who can generate good pace.yeah its nothing to do with bodies. Sri Lanka has yet to produce one single test quality fast bowler,just because Malinga is their it does not make them a country producing fast bowlers
podi wije Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I don't think Zaheer is wrong here about Indian bodies.If Kolkatta football clubs have so much fitter bodies then why do they need African players African players add extra kick to Indian football http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/SportsArchive/artikel.php?ID=179872 I think Blacks and whites are much more genetically gifted in Athletics than the entire South Asia yeah that's right to some extent.bt still the Pakistan and sl are from Asia.i don't think there are much of a difference in there origins.especially when it comes to Muslims.saheer khan also a Muslim same as Pakistanis.isn't it?
podi wije Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Sri Lanka has yet to produce one single test quality fast bowler' date='just because Malinga is their it does not make them a country producing fast bowlers[/quote'] yeah sri lanka didnt produce hell of a lot more fast bowlers like aussia or WI.bt still they having bowlers who can hit 140s.fernando is another one who bowls even quicker than malinga.
Tiger80 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 yeah sri lanka didnt produce hell of a lot more fast bowlers like aussia or WI.bt still they having bowlers who can hit 140s.fernando is another one who bowls even quicker than malinga. Srinath was quicker and much better than Fernando
podi wije Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Srinath was quicker and much better than Fernando dilhara hits 150-152 kmph regularly in the last Aus series.yeah he is rubbish no doubt about it.bt im talking about the pace here.cant remember srinath hitting something like 150 in a recent match though.
Tiger80 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 EPL and other European leagues get players from the African continent. Ergo, whites are inferior to blacks. Don't jump to the easiest conclusion possible like Pakis. Unless you're a Paki. Blacks dominating athletic sports is an open fact.There are some scientists who even tried to find the reasons that why Blacks dominate the sprint running,marathon etc You can search these articles on Google .Ever wondered why we excelled in sports which require less stamina 1) Vishwanathan Anand Chess 2) Leandar paes and Bhupati failed in singles teniis which require lots of stamina but reached number one ranking in Doubles which require more skills than stamina 3)Geet sethi and other billiards champions 4) Golfers who plays in some world tournaments 5) Shooters Now tell me How many Indians plays in football clubs ,NBa rugby american football, sprint running etc Our national record in 100 metre racing is not even enough good to make us qualify in olympics
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