If Sir Donald Bradman was born an Indian

[bulbul]

I can also dominate my peers if my peers are a bunch of ameatuers taking up cricket as a side hobby

but can you prove that using stats...here we dont ready to agree any one as good let alone great without stats...:winky:

[bulbul]

But isnt that what you are claiming when you call him the greatest of all time? That means that you conclusively say that Bradman would definitely dominate Wasim' date=' Waqar, etc. Did you lose track of what we were discussing?[/quote'] what guarantee if Wasim,Waqar born at Bradman era and bowled well to him ?

[yoda]

I think we are all going in circles with everyone entrenched in their turf refusing to move even an inch and repeating the same thing over and over again.

[yoda]

But isnt that what you are claiming when you call him the greatest of all time? That means that you conclusively say that Bradman would definitely dominate Wasim' date=' Waqar, etc. [b']Did you lose track of what we were discussing?

Getting a tad personal are we? Keep reading my posts, may be what I mean will sink in one day.

[CSK Fan]

what guarantee if Wasim' date='Waqar born at Bradman era and bowled well to him ?[/quote'] No gaurantee. Hence no claims of someone being an all time great

[CSK Fan]

Getting a tad personal are we? Keep reading my posts' date=' may be what I mean will sink in one day.[/quote'] Wow, you were offended by that?

[bulbul]

No gaurantee. Hence no claims of someone being an all time great

then why we talking down a entire generation of cricketrs for the sake of one?

[bulbul]

Peer domination, I've heard that before. Nobody has dominated their Ranji peers like Rahane. Not Sachin, not Dravid. Ergo, Rahane urinates all over Sachin. I am better off selling snake oil.

who told you ? u are talking about Mumbai team only :winky:

[mishra]

I think we are all going in circles with everyone entrenched in their turf refusing to move even an inch and repeating the same thing over and over again.

Atleast, we have successfully demonstarted that Bradman era cricket lacked any quality.

[yoda]

Atleast' date=' we have successfully demonstarted that Bradman era cricket lacked any quality.[/quote'] Yes and 100 years from now, today's cricket will seem to have lacked quality, especially by those who can't seem to understand that we progress in every walk of life (not just in cricket) over time. BTW, we don't need videos or 10 threads to show that 100 years ago standard of cricket was much lower than it is today. That in itself doesn't mean a person from that era cannot be considered an ATG or the greatest of all time. If absolute quality is a must criteria for greatest of all time, then might as well name the last decade's greatest as the greatest of all time cause they are bound to be faster, better than anyone from the previous decade, barring a few exceptions, where it may take a couple of decades to better someone.

[bulbul]

Atleast' date=' we have successfully demonstarted that Bradman era cricket lacked any quality.[/quote'] you are circling in a well :winky:

[mishra]

Yes and 100 years from now' date=' today's cricket will seem to have lacked quality, especially by those who can't seem to understand that quality progresses in every walk of life (not just in cricket) over time.[/quote'] I wouldnt complain what future generation decide for themselves. However Last time i checked Waqar, Wasim,Imran,Bishop,Akhtar,Walsh,Ambrose,Lille,Mcgrath, Murali, Warne. had allready retired. New boyz are struggling to match that level

[mishra]

you are circling in a well :winky:

:icflove:

[8ankitj]

So half of you are saying you will never try to create a list of all time greats because you think comparisons across eras cannot happen. The other half that does indulge in that titillating exercise, has no choice but to put Bradman over Tendulkar. Agree? ;)

[bulbul]

So half of you are saying you will never try to create a list of all time greats because you think comparisons across eras cannot happen. The other half that does indulge in those titillating exercise, has no choice but to put Bradman over Tendulkar. Agree? ;)

:hmmm:

[8ankitj]

:hmmm:

If you do create an all time list, you do that on the premise that cricketers across eras can be compared, and if you think they can be compared you have to look at the extent that they dominate their peers. If you are not doing that, you are shooting from the ****. :winky:

[CSK Fan]

If you do create an all time list' date=' you do that on the premise that cricketers across eras can be compared, and if you think they can be compared you have to look at the extent that they dominate their peers. If you are not doing that, you are shooting from the ****. :winky:[/quote'] The sensible thing would be look at how much they can dominate each other but since thats not possible. But since the peers are not equal how is this a fair comparison?

[mishra]

If you do create an all time list' date=' you do that on the premise that cricketers across eras can be compared, and if you think they can be compared you have to look at the extent that they dominate their peers. If you are not doing that, you are shooting from the ****. :winky:[/quote'] Can you not argue without throwing insults please......

[The Outsider]

Don't want to get into a long winded discussion since all points have already been made at some stage or the other on this forum, but take Sobers for example. He is not that far off from the Bradman era - debuted a few years after Bradman retired. And there are well documented decent quality videos of him smashing the likes of Lillee and Thompson, something which even Richards could not do on his first outing against them. Hopefully we can all agree that Lillee and Thompson were phhaaasht. And by the way, the same Sobers considers Lindwall and Miller to be the most potent bowling combination he faced, both of whom were Bradman's contemporaries.

[tothepoint]

So half of you are saying you will never try to create a list of all time greats because you think comparisons across eras cannot happen. The other half that does indulge in that titillating exercise, has no choice but to put Bradman over Tendulkar. Agree? ;)

You gotta edit your posts before the enlightened ones here label you as an Idiot or if you are lucky,you might get away with something like "you have no idea what you are talking about". Because for them,while others were fighting with swords, Bradman was flying rockets.