Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Read my post again. Where have I written that Pathan is better than Kumar? I have compared Irfan to Mithun and there again I have stated that Irfan is a better bat and has had previous international experience in Oz. oh ok sorry .. :P Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Has Gony done really well in the domestic cricket this year ? yes...has bowled well...but looks like he too got injured in the Ranji match finished yesterday. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The last 2 were effort deliveries. In order to be effective VK will need to bowl at least 140+ but even his effort deliveries were in low 120s in SA. Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 seriously speed of 134 -135 is enough if u swing them both ways cos there is always doubt and Australians dont fear 140 plus speed they always play bad against quality swing most recent example todays game... Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 seriously speed of 134 -135 is enough if u swing them both ways cos there is always doubt and Australians dont fear 140 plus speed they always play bad against quality swing most recent example todays game... But it is good only when it swings and it wont swing most of the time. Second innings will be the real test for Kiwi bowlers. We are not going to see this kind of a pitch and conditions anywhere else in Australia. Link to comment
Desi Cartman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 seriously speed of 134 -135 is enough if u swing them both ways cos there is always doubt and Australians dont fear 140 plus speed they always play bad against quality swing most recent example todays game... The problem is that puttar Vinay can't swing either :facepalm: Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 @ desi cartman vinay can swing and he does swing... even i wanted him out of team before but he is consistently bowling those good wicket taking deliveries and tbh pathan was in contention compared to pathan and mithun this guy is so much better and @rkt yep it will be harder for them but if they make 300 they will defend it and if vinay keeps it tight (he is 3rd seamer ) thats enough its not total hopeless situation like mithun Link to comment
Desi Cartman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 @ desi cartman vinay can swing and he does swing... even i wanted him out of team before but he is consistently bowling those good wicket taking deliveries and tbh pathan was in contention compared to pathan and mithun this guy is so much better and @rkt yep it will be harder for them but if they make 300 they will defend it and if vinay keeps it tight (he is 3rd seamer ) thats enough its not total hopeless situation like mithun I know he is the best we have, it's just that I'm disappointed that this is our best. Haven't seen IKP bowl so can't say how good/bad he is bowling Link to comment
bajrang Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 dont know if it has been posted but it seems vinay has outperformed both umesh and aron in australia recently. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/emerging-players-tournament-2011/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=6593;type=tournament so i dont think its as bad it seems Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 dont know if it has been posted but it seems vinay has outperformed both umesh and aron in australia recently. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/emerging-players-tournament-2011/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=6593;type=tournament so i dont think its as bad it semms he is so slow..opposition felt bad and gifted wickets... isnt this same series where people going gaga over Varun " cant play 3 matches back to back " Aaron :giggle: Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I know he is the best we have' date=' it's just that I'm disappointed that this is our best. Haven't seen IKP bowl so can't say how good/bad he is bowling[/quote'] when pathan was at his best even then he never kept it tight... and according to many people who saw him bowl his swing is back.. but pace is same.. and to me vk has performed in odis and has swung the ball consistently in every match in last 9 odis so he should be ahead of pathan more over its our bad luck pk,sreesanth are injred with them back this attack looks better and now aaron even this guy could ve been a decent 3rd seamer even though he is too raw we are just hit by too many injuries and on top of that we werent that gr8 in this department anyway lol Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 he is so slow..opposition felt bad and gifted wickets... isnt this same series where people going gaga over Varun " cant play 3 matches back to back " Aaron :giggle: come on.. LOL wht more proof do u want that vinay can be decent 3rd seamer? Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 he is so slow..opposition felt bad and gifted wickets... isnt this same series where people going gaga over Varun " cant play 3 matches back to back " Aaron :giggle: Probably Aussies play for more pace and by the time they are thru with the shot, the ball is still travelling. What they think is the slower ball, is actually Vinay bowling at full pace. Once they get used to it, they will thrash him. :winky: In the Emerging players tourney. Vinay got 12 wickets, Aaron got 10 and UY got only 6. So does this make him a better bowler than Aaron and Yadav? Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Probably Aussies play for more pace and by the time they are thru with the shot, the ball is still travelling. What they think is the slower ball, is actually Vinay bowling at full pace. Once they get used to it, they will thrash him. :winky: In the Emerging players tourney. Vinay got 12 wickets, Aaron got 10 and UY got only 6. So does this make him a better bowler than Aaron and Yadav? May be ..May not be who knows? :giggle: Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 he is so slow..opposition felt bad and gifted wickets... isnt this same series where people going gaga over Varun " cant play 3 matches back to back " Aaron :giggle: He played more matches than Kumar. Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 come on.. LOL wht more proof do u want that vinay can be decent 3rd seamer? Impossible...not even 30th pacer...forgot 3rd Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Probably Aussies play for more pace and by the time they are thru with the shot, the ball is still travelling. What they think is the slower ball, is actually Vinay bowling at full pace. Once they get used to it, they will thrash him. :winky: In the Emerging players tourney. Vinay got 12 wickets, Aaron got 10 and UY got only 6. So does this make him a better bowler than Aaron and Yadav? idk yadav recently improved his game a bit an i seriously dont get the hate against him, mithun is rubbish so hate is justified but he is performing consistently now in odis ,he has good record in this emerging players tournament and he is getting good players out is it bcos of speed he bowls over 130 its not like we have been famous for producing 140 k bowlers' pathan ,rp(current) sreesanth in england all bowled in 120's! Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 He played more matches than Kumar. still took less wickets...but that time you are just writing Aaron's epics :cantstop: Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Impossible...not even 30th pacer...forgot 3rd lol well i would like to see how he performs tomorrow both pathan and vinay should play... and i know wht ur saying but lets admit it after injuries.. we dont really have many good replacements and selectors wont send dinda Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 still took less wickets...but that time you are just writing Aaron's epics :cantstop: because Aaron has pace and Kumar does not. Aaron was young only 21 and Kumar was 27. Aaron has more years in him to play than Vinay and we did not have genuine pacers but more than enough bowlers like Vinay. Link to comment
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