sumvell Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 he's highly skilled even if he's a chucker(i personally don't think he is any more a chucker than murali was). It's a joy to watch a spinner beat a batsman with a doosra/googly.
Trundler27 Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 the way he bamboozled sachin in the WC QF is plenty proof that ajmal is by far the most mesmerizing spinner in world cricket at the moment. Anyhow, the paki bowling line-up has always remained in the top 3 of World cricket ever since i can remember I thought swann was the best but after his lousy performances over the past 2 series, I'm beginning to doubt the guy... he turns his mouth farther than he turns the cricket ball.
J P K Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 he's highly skilled even if he's a chucker(i personally don't think he is any more a chucker than murali was). It's a joy to watch a spinner beat a batsman with a doosra/google. :blink:
akshayxyz Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 :cantstop: Could have used Afretard's dancing on the pitch pic and called it "Mujraaa" and set would have been complete :cantstop: :hysterical:
Magneto Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Working out well for the Indian fans. We can laugh at the Pommies and say 'You minnows, you can't even score 200 on flat tracks and claim to be the No.1:hehe:' and we can laugh at the Pakis and say 'You won with a chucker, you can't win fair :hehe:' Win-win situation.
jairamesh Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 "Cheating" and "Pakistan" are synonymous. So another chucker in the Paki team is not a surprise. :dontknow:
badmash Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 "Cheating" and "Pakistan" are synonymous. So another chucker in the Paki team is not a surprise. :dontknow: whatever helps you sleep at night
Sarkar Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 "Cheating" and "Pakistan" are synonymous. So another chucker in the Paki team is not a surprise. :dontknow: They dont cheat they come from Land of Pure its a kanspiracy.
India-KXIP fan Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Lettuce be reality how is it possible this guy is on an international cricket field? What a travesty. not a pak fan but no opposition players have complained, why are you?
Stuge Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 as long as ICC doesn't have problem with it .why everyone calls him chucker :|
Sachinism Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Ajmal NEEDS to commentate post-retirement Strap a mic on him, he can commentate while playing :two_thumbs_up:
Hell Raiser Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 One thing is for sure that Ajmal chucks, he chucks his normal off spin but he takes it to another level when he bowls doosra. ICC needs to grow some balls and ban all the bowlers who chucks but that's not going to happen as we all know.
Needforspeed Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 How does ICC judge chucking action? The other day Maninder Singh (Dial C for Cricket) was mentioning that bowlers who chuck are asked to bowl in front of ICC experts and then their action is cleared. Maninder Singh says bowlers who chuck, have to just bowl with a straight arm in from of the ICC panel and once they are cleared by them, can get back to chucking. Regarding the 15 deg rule, how can umpires discern with the naked eye, the difference between 15 deg and say 25 deg. Now my doubt is this. Does ICC really ask the bowlers to bowl in front of their panel (as Maninder singh says) or do they judge on the basis of video footage from actual matches?
Hell Raiser Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 How does ICC judge chucking action? The other day Maninder Singh (Dial C for Cricket) was mentioning that bowlers who chuck are asked to bowl in front of ICC experts and then their action is cleared. Maninder Singh says bowlers who chuck, have to just bowl with a straight arm in from of the ICC panel and once they are cleared by them, can get back to chucking. Regarding the 15 deg rule, how can umpires discern with the naked eye, the difference between 15 deg and say 25 deg. Now my doubt is this. Does ICC really ask the bowlers to bowl in front of their panel (as Maninder singh says) or do they judge on the basis of video footage from actual matches? I was watching that show as well, He said that these bowlers don't put all the efforts and don't bowl like they do in matches when bowling in front of the experts. I don't know how much of that is true but it really amazes me how can players like Ajmal can get a clearance from ICC.
Pak_Fan_4_Eva Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 I was watching that show as well' date=' He said that these bowlers don't put all the efforts and don't bowl like they do in matches when bowling in front of the experts. I don't know how much of that is true but it really amazes me how can players like Ajmal can get a clearance from ICC.[/quote'] That's not possible. Shoaib Malik had his doosra banned (yes he used to bowl one) when he underwent bowling tests in OZland. So obviously he had to bowl each of his deliveries to complete the procedure.
Sachinism Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 How does ICC judge chucking action? The other day Maninder Singh (Dial C for Cricket) was mentioning that bowlers who chuck are asked to bowl in front of ICC experts and then their action is cleared. Maninder Singh says bowlers who chuck, have to just bowl with a straight arm in from of the ICC panel and once they are cleared by them, can get back to chucking. Regarding the 15 deg rule, how can umpires discern with the naked eye, the difference between 15 deg and say 25 deg. Now my doubt is this. Does ICC really ask the bowlers to bowl in front of their panel (as Maninder singh says) or do they judge on the basis of video footage from actual matches? I believe when they do the tests, they compare the bowling in the testing centre with their bowling in matches to see they're throwing down the same thing (no pun intended)
badmash Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 How does ICC judge chucking action? The other day Maninder Singh (Dial C for Cricket) was mentioning that bowlers who chuck are asked to bowl in front of ICC experts and then their action is cleared. Maninder Singh says bowlers who chuck, have to just bowl with a straight arm in from of the ICC panel and once they are cleared by them, can get back to chucking. Regarding the 15 deg rule, how can umpires discern with the naked eye, the difference between 15 deg and say 25 deg. Now my doubt is this. Does ICC really ask the bowlers to bowl in front of their panel (as Maninder singh says) or do they judge on the basis of video footage from actual matches? Dr Bruce Elliot a professor of Bio-mechanics, Motor Learning and Development at the University of Western Australia cleared Ajmal in 2009, when the Australian cricket team were struggling to deconstruct his mystery at the same venue. Elliot revealed that ÅÅuring a comprehensive analysis it was apparent that the amount of elbow extension in Saeed AjmalÃÔ bowling action for all deliveries was within the 15-degree level of tolerance permitted in the ICC regulations. Dr Paul Hurrion, the ICC chief biomechanics analyst and consultant, recently explained how these tests were conducted to remove doubts on whether the "conniving" spinner had in fact sneaked his way through the trials. "We use synchronised footage of the player bowling in a match to check that they are not just going through the motions or altering their style. They have to replicate the speed of a delivery from a match, the deviation and the revolutions of the ball. When being tested, the bowler is topless and has reflective markers all over his bowling arm, so the three-dimensional, high-speed cameras can film him from every angle." http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/20/demystifying-the-saeed-ajmal-anomaly.html pretty conclusive don't you think?
badmash Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 "“When being tested, the bowler is topless and has reflective markers all over his bowling arm, so the 3D, high-speed cameras can film him from every angle. On TV, what you see is an optical illusion because the pictures are only 2D so the angle you see is often very different from the reality. - Dr Hurrion http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/19/saeeds-bowling-was-tested-in-3d-from-all-angles-icc-head-analyst.html LOL at bob willis trying to justify his views from a picture he grabbed from TV..know what u are talking about first you old fool.
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