Mohan470 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 A player of Sachin Tendulkar's statureshould not be benched: Wasim Akram A player of Sachin Tendulkar's stature should not be benched: Wasim Akram Sachin should play all matches In CB series ..
Dravid_TheWall Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I agree. You cannot "rotate" someone who is the best batsman in that position, not only now, but for a long time. It makes me sick.
akshayxyz Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Good write up on the topic by Akash Chopra. Why/whynot/whether rotation can work for India. http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/552879.html
Raghav_12 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Why should there not be rotation for WK position as well? You don't rotate your best performer of the position like that. Bullshit.
asterix Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Then Chin Chin Hildulkar should play every ODI series (unless he's injured) and not pick and choose as per his whims..
yoda Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I agree with the sentiment that he should rest the whole series or play all consequential games in a given series. That should be the case with players like Sehwag and Gambhir as well. Once you are in a series, play your best XI for the game, unless you've already qualified for the finals and want to rest players for a game or two.
Ultimate_Game Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I would rotate Dhoni more than anybody else. The guy has been playing non-stop for a long time and should get a couple of games off.
Raghav_12 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Then Chin Chin Hildulkar should play every ODI series (unless he's injured) and not pick and choose as per his whims.. Him playing each series would not make any sense. If we have a 5 ODI homse series say against NZ, what point Sachin playing those ahead of any younster. However, I agree he should be playing all matches of any consequence, like CB series.
Tiger80 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Resting Tendulkar, Hussey is a disgrace: Tony Greig http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-sachin-tendulkar-mike-hussey-tony/20120213.htm Former England captain Tony Greig has labelled the decision to rest Sachin Tendulkar and Mike Hussey during Sunday's cricket tri-series match between India and Australia as a "disgrace". Expressing displeasure at the rotation policy of India and Australia, cricketer-turned-commentator Greig said Channel Nine and fans should receive financial compensation for resting the star pair." TV networks should receive a rebate on TV rights fees if stars are rested and the same should apply to those who have bought tickets," Greig wrote on his Twitter page. "Tendulkar rested -- that's a disgrace as is the resting of Hussey!!!! What about the cricket lovers?"Tendulkar, who is one short of his milestone 100th international century, and Hussey, were rested today as per the rotation policy of the two teams. Channel Nine's executive producer of cricket, Brad McNamara also expressed his displeasure and said he expected the best players to be involved in every game. "We want the best players playing every game, as simple as that. Anything that affects our viewing audience is an issue, it's as simple as that. If it has the potential to do that, it is an issue," McNamara was quoted as saying in the Sydney Morning Herald. McNamara feels Tendulkar's absence also had the potential to hurt the ratings of India's host broadcaster, ESPN-Star. "Imagine what it has done to the viewing audience in India?" McNamara said. "That particular resting probably has more of an issue for the Indian audience although there are a lot of people (in Australia) who like watching Tendulkar bat. We would much prefer he was playing, put it that way."
bajrang Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 budhha pagla gaya hai. only thinking for broadcaster and not for the game.
Old guy Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 its long series..no need to play every match but yes this rotation policy is a joke
Stuge Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 wtf ..looks like broadcaster have stuffed these people with money, and now they are puking rubbish .
Tiger80 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 budhha pagla gaya hai. only thinking for broadcaster and not for the game. :hysterical::hysterical:
Show_stopper Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Him playing each series would not make any sense. If we have a 5 ODI homse series say against NZ' date=' what point Sachin playing those ahead of any younster. However, I agree he should be playing all matches of any consequence, like CB series.[/quote'] This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that is messing our cricket up. You see the thing is if Sachin makes way for younger players at home/SC pitches, these guys have played enough on these pitches to make their way to headlines. This in turn leads the management to invest in them as future prospects with huge potential, which is as it should be. However the problem starts when Tendulkar comes back for important away series and blocks these youngsters from getting a place in the XI. Let us be frank, irrespective of a young guy's performance he is never going "EARN" a place in the side ahead of Tendulkar (to illustrate, imagine what would have happened had there been no rotation and UV was fully fit - Raina and Rohit could wipe their asses with their performances). This could easily lead to a scenario where the selectors continue to harbour delusions about the young guy's potential which they have invested in, while having no idea if the guy can actually play on such surfaces (it would require fair number of chances to determine this). Our weird scheduling of away tours (18 months of key away tours followed by 2-3 years of playing at home) would mean that we would be losing significant amount of time (appx 4 years) before we get an opportunity to establish if a player can play in these conditions. For example, if Rohit and Raina were to be dropped now, on the next tour to Australia they would be respectively 28 and 29! Already Ajinkya Rahane will already be 27 yrs before he could have even faced a delivery on Australian soil, courtesy Sachin's decision to play the CB series. These are points worth considering before blindly insisting upon Sachin's inclusion. Its one of the reasons why I said in one of the other threads that Kohli-Rohit-Raina at 3 - 4- 5 positions must be preserved at ANY cost in this series.
Show_stopper Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Chappell summed it up correctly the other day when he said India's "star culture" is a problem.
CSK Fan Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Chappell summed it up correctly the other day when he said India's "star culture" is a problem. Yep, the Aussies showed the same culture when they persisted with Ponting and Hussey, both in a far worse slump than our seniors, yet didnt hear a peep put of Chappel. And it payed rich dividends. If you really want to learn something from aussies, learn how they respect their legends. Try saying a word about Bradman or even Steve Waugh in front of an Aussie Since when is age a criteria for selection? there are players as old as Sachin in other teams. If someone is still performing, they should get a chance ahead of people who are not performing whatever both players age.
yoda Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Chappell summed it up correctly the other day when he said India's "star culture" is a problem. Well we all have our problems. In India, "star culture" is a problem, in Australia, lack of culture is a problem :P
Show_stopper Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Yep, the Aussies showed the same culture when they persisted with Ponting and Hussey, both in a far worse slump than our seniors, yet didnt hear a peep put of Chappel. And it payed rich dividends. If you really want to learn something from aussies, learn how they respect their legends. Try saying a word about Bradman or even Steve Waugh in front of an Aussie Since when is age a criteria for selection? there are players as old as Sachin in other teams. If someone is still performing, they should get a chance ahead of people who are not performing whatever both players age. Did you read my post above the one you replied to? In case you didn't, Sachin's tendency to selectively appear in ODIs is the problem. It would be fine if he played each and every game, without exception. Aussie veterans don't take vacations during 'unimportant' series. Sachin has been doing it from sometime now.
Raghav_12 Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that is messing our cricket up. You see the thing is if Sachin makes way for younger players at home/SC pitches, these guys have played enough on these pitches to make their way to headlines. This in turn leads the management to invest in them as future prospects with huge potential, which is as it should be. However the problem starts when Tendulkar comes back for important away series and blocks these youngsters from getting a place in the XI. Let us be frank, irrespective of a young guy's performance he is never going "EARN" a place in the side ahead of Tendulkar (to illustrate, imagine what would have happened had there been no rotation and UV was fully fit - Raina and Rohit could wipe their asses with their performances). This could easily lead to a scenario where the selectors continue to harbour delusions about the young guy's potential which they have invested in, while having no idea if the guy can actually play on such surfaces (it would require fair number of chances to determine this). Our weird scheduling of away tours (18 months of key away tours followed by 2-3 years of playing at home) would mean that we would be losing significant amount of time (appx 4 years) before we get an opportunity to establish if a player can play in these conditions. For example, if Rohit and Raina were to be dropped now, on the next tour to Australia they would be respectively 28 and 29! Already Ajinkya Rahane will already be 27 yrs before he could have even faced a delivery on Australian soil, courtesy Sachin's decision to play the CB series. These are points worth considering before blindly insisting upon Sachin's inclusion. Its one of the reasons why I said in one of the other threads that Kohli-Rohit-Raina at 3 - 4- 5 positions must be preserved at ANY cost in this series. So you would llike to experiment new guys in important matches so that they can gain experience of playing in important matches..!! Going by that logic we should have tried all U-19 guys in WC final, so that next time when Indian reaches WC final, we have players with experience of playing in such conditions. Well, tell me one younster, other than Kohli, who did enough to earn a place in ODI 11 but could not get because of Yuvi and Sachin? Kohli did enough and he cemented his place. International matches are played to win not to try out colts.
Show_stopper Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 So you would llike to experiment new guys in important matches so that they can gain experience of playing in important matches..!! Going by that logic we should have tried all U-19 guys in WC final, so that next time when Indian reaches WC final, we have players with experience of playing in such conditions. Well, tell me one younster, other than Kohli, who did enough to earn a place in ODI 11 but could not get because of Yuvi and Sachin? Kohli did enough and he cemented his place. International matches are played to win not to try out colts. No 'experiment' isn't the right word. I'm talking of guys who have performed reasonably in conditions they are comfortable with. Also I clearly mentioned how this logic of "doing enough" is flawed. People are never going to do enough to "earn" their place when they are up against Sachin. Its the reason why you think Raina(130+ odis) and Rohit (70+ odis) haven't done ENOUGH. Thier averages are already better than some of greats from other teams.
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