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Malcolm Merlyn

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u r confusing allrounder with good/great allrounder. someone who is considered as a bowler (not part-timer) and can bat in the middle order(jadeja) is an allrounder. if someone maintain 35+ avg with bat and less then 25 with the ball for even few years on his prime is a great allrounder. if he can maintain it for large portion of his career then hes all time great allrounder. i wud say shakib is a good allrounder who has the potential to be a great allrounder and maybe one of all time greats. time will say . if u say hes not a great allrounder yet i agree. but when u say someone is allrounder at your book when only they avg 35+ with bat nd less then 25 with ball (post #667) so shakib is not even an allrounder then i'm sorry to inform u its laughable.
So any metric against which shakib does not cut it as an all-rounder is laughable. Pehle hi bolne ka tha na.
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fair enough. Take Imran, Kallis and Dev and compare their test averages season through season from their debut and see how SAH places amongst them.
A genuine allrounder is someone who impacts in one dept with fullfledged skills as a matchwinner in hteir primary dept and proves useful or a partial matchwinner in the weaker dept because their basics are not too weak or nonexistent in that dept but not as good as a full fledged specialist either. this is the most general case imran and kapil were expected to impact with the ball in their prime whereas kallis is expected to impact with the bat. and there are cases like ashwin and prabhakar who won't qualify as part matchwinners in their weaker dept as they totally lack batting flair but still prove a contributor at times.
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Its obvious Shakib is the first half decent player they've produced so dont expect them to think rationally
dont wanna argue but this is sort of an insult to a guy who has been topping the allrounder rankings since 2009 and hardly was their too much competition.. If u call that half decent then I dont know what to say
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A genuine allrounder is someone who impacts in one dept with fullfledged skills as a matchwinner in hteir primary dept and proves useful or a partial matchwinner in the weaker dept because their basics are not too weak or nonexistent in that dept but not as good as a full fledged specialist either. this is the most general case imran and kapil were expected to impact with the ball in their prime whereas kallis is expected to impact with the bat. and there are cases like ashwin and prabhakar who won't qualify as part matchwinners in their weaker dept as they totally lack batting flair but still prove a contributor at times.
agree, a genuine allrounder doesnt mean that the guy has to be the best or among the best in any department but will do well in both departments and be a matchwinner in both disciplines.
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dont wanna argue but this is sort of an insult to a guy who has been topping the allrounder rankings since 2009 and hardly was their too much competition.. If u call that half decent then I dont know what to say
Just trying to rile up Bdfan bro,he's a good player:icflove:
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Saqib is the symbol of bangbros just like the actor Vijay's fans think that he is the symbol of TN (second coming of Jesus Christ) :phehehe: :beee:
Okay but surely they wouldnt mind comments abt his @ss ps:Not a big fan of vijay either,look at my av,thala rocks!
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Please take cricketer's butt discussion to another thread. This is for KKR related talk. I hope KKR are not taking it easy in their right earned break. But starting to plan for the final. Also thinking abt what to do if Balaji cant recover & be 100% for the match....& if cant...what will be the team combination. Ideally they will expect to go to the finals unchanged with Tiwary getting back into XI if fit

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