When Akhtar made Tendulkar shake in his boots

[India-KXIP fan]

[deathmonger]

:hysterical::hysterical:..............sure

good to see you've admitted it. name an important cup/away series akhtar has played a contribution in. he has good stats but didn't really achieve anything. saying akhtar is better than a lot of bowlers is like saying kambli is better than inzi,anwar,miandad etc cause he has higher average.

[CSK Fan]

haha sachin is uncomparable ' date=' what is it over 300 international losses and counting :giggle:[/quote'] Lets see, Sachin has helped his team achieve number 1 rankings in tests. Soemhting Imran and Wasim never ever could in their life. So who is better?

[CSK Fan]

20 out of 46 test akhtar play in pak wins =43.4% 63 out of 188 test srt play in India wins=33.5%

Isnt 63 three times the number of wins Aktar has, 20? Isnt 63>20?

[panther]

Isnt 63 three times the number of wins Aktar has' date=' 20? Isnt 63>20?[/quote'] what the stats show is in matches akhtar has played in comparison with srt pak has a higher win %

[Ultimate_Game]

what the stats show is in matches akhtar has played in comparison with srt pak has a higher win %

By that logic Kambli could trump SRT as well since India generally won when he played :dontknow: Or maybe you are implying the greatest match-winner ever is Martin Love!!! IIRC he played only one game for Aus and scored an unbeaten 100 in an Aussie win with 100% winning record But I agree with you. Tendulkar is not fit to tie Akhtar's shoe laces. After all we all know how Akhtar made SRT quiver and shake in his boots in 2003. In fact i still have nightmares about that spell from Akhtar

[panther]

Pakistan win loss ratio is much better if you exclude matches in which Akhtar played. Which means when Akhtar has played Pakistan has lost more matches on an avergae compared to the matches when Akhtar has not played. Just opposite to Sachin's contribution. India has overall won more matches and win loss ratio is much better when he has played. Selfish kaun

well according to this poster india play better when sachin is playing still india win % when he is playing is only 33%

[panther]

By that logic Kambli could trump SRT as well since India generally won when he played :dontknow: Or maybe you are implying the greatest match-winner ever is Martin Love!!! IIRC he played only one game for Aus and scored an unbeaten 100 in an Aussie win with 100% winning record But I agree with you. Tendulkar is not fit to tie Akhtar's shoe laces. After all we all know how Akhtar made SRT quiver and shake in his boots in 2003. In fact i still have nightmares about that spell from Akhtar

no my post was a direct reply to khalpat not saying who is a better matchwinner just showing the stats which show that when srt plays india win % is worse in comparison when akhtar plays

[akshayxyz]

haha sachin is uncomparable ' date=' what is it over 300 international losses and counting :giggle:[/quote'] relevant, in any discussion where you try to judge a great by his (team's) losses.

[Ultimate_Game]

no my post was a direct reply to khalpat not saying who is a better matchwinner just showing the stats which show that when srt plays india win % is worse in comparison when akhtar plays

Your argument is akin to saying Andy Bichel, Stuart McGill, Kasprowicz, or any Aussie bowler who played along with McGrath & Warne during Aussies' heyday, are greater than Akram & Waqar coz Aussie winning %ge with those bowlers in the team was better than Pakis' winning %ge with Akram & Waqar in the team. See the fallacy of your argument?

[panther]

Your argument is akin to saying Andy Bichel' date=' Stuart McGill, Kasprowicz, or any Aussie bowler who played along with McGrath & Warne during Aussies' heyday, are greater than Akram & Waqar coz Aussie winning %ge with those bowlers in the team was better than Pakis' winning %ge with Akram & Waqar in the team. See the fallacy of your argument?[/quote'] i did not say who is greater between srt and akhtar, because we all know it's srt

[Ultimate_Game]

i did not say who is greater between srt and akhtar' date=' because we all know it's srt[/quote'] I am not even arguing that point. I am simply stating that the lgic/argument you used was flawed as it was a apples and oranges comparison. You are essentially saying A > Y using the equation A + B > Y + Z, where A & Y are individual players and B & Z are accumulation of 10 other players from those players' respective teams. In other words you are implying Akhtar > SRT coz Akhtar + (rest of paki Team) > SRT + (rest of Indian team). I am simply saying this is a flawed argument and cannot be used no matter who the players are. You may as well compare Lee and Akhtar, or Akhtar and Kasprowicz but not using this logic/argument.

[panther]

no my reply to khalphat post was valid but you have changed the subject matter into player a> than player b due to team performance

[Sarkar]

lol @ zaheer khan and sreesanth being mentioned alongside akhtar . indias record in cricket is a proof of the kind of bowlers they produce , been beating them since eternity , have a much better record , infact most countries barring namibia have , so one should study the root cause of the disability to find decent cricketers among the massive population.

:hysterical: Pakistan produced great cheats in cricket the same indians bowlers kick your ass every world cup game.

[Sarkar]

naa team victory is more important than selfish stats .:winky:

No pakistan players made more name for pakistan than Sachin has for India what a tailunt