Guest dada_rocks Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2237940.ece Grooming of white girls for sex is exposed as two Asian men jailed Lucy Bannerman and Richard Ford A hidden world in which Asian men “groom†young white girls for sex has been exposed with the jailing yesterday of two men for child-abuse offences. Zulfqar Hussain, 46, and Qaiser Naveed, 32, from east Lancashire, were each jailed for five years and eight months after exploiting two girls aged under 16 by plying them with alcohol and drugs before having sex with them. Both men pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to abduction, sexual activity with a child and the supply of a controlled drug. Despite being told explicitly by police and social services that both girls were under-age and should be returned to care, the men picked up one girl from a children’s home in Blackburn and then drove on to collect her friend who was living in temporary foster care in North Wales. function pictureGalleryPopup(pubUrl,articleId) {var newWin = window.open(pubUrl+'template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id='+articleId+'&&offset=0&§ionName=UKCrime','mywindow','menubar=0,resizable=0,width=615,height=655');}Related Links An ugly pattern of abuse emerges Mother tells how daughter, 14, was groomed Naveed, from Burnley, gave one girl the first of five Ecstasy tablets at a motorway service station before having sex with her on the back seat of the car while the group drove back to Lancashire. The court was told that the two men later took the girls to an address in Blackburn where Hussain, from Blackburn, had sex with the second girl and gave her a total of ten Ecstasy tablets. Yesterday Judge Andrew Gilbart, QC, jailed the two Asian men under new sex laws designed to protect youngsters from being groomed for sexual activity. Judge Gilbart said: “This is a truly shocking offence. You knew them. They were exploited for sex by the two of you. No other description is possible. They were under-age girls who you knew it was your responsibility to protect and not exploit.†The trial came amid growing concern at the attitudes of some Asian men towards white girls which campaigners for women claim few people wish to address. Parents have complained that in parts of the country with large Asian communities white girls as young as 12 are being targeted for sex by older Asian men yet the authorities are unwilling to act because of fears of being labelled racist. Ann Cryer, a Labour member of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, has been at the forefront of attempting to tackle the problem after receiving complaints from mothers in her constituency about young Asian men targeting their under-age daughters. Although campaigners claim that hundreds of young girls are already being passed around men within the Asian community for sex, she said that attempts to raise the problem with community leaders had met with little success, with most of them being in a state of denial about it. After the case, the mother of one of the girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, welcomed the jail terms. “This will hopefully act as a warning to others,†the woman said. She had had to leave the court as details of the men’s sexual relations with the teenagers were read out. After the trial, Ms Cryer said that young Asian men were caught between two cultures having been brought up in a Western society in families while retaining the cultural values of the Asian sub-continent. She said: “The family and cultural norms of their community means they are expected to marry a first cousin or other relative back in a village in Mirapur or wherever the family comes from. Therefore, until that marriage is arranged they look out for sex. “At the point in their lives when they are ready for this sort of activity, Asians cannot go to Asian girls because it would be a terrible breach of the honour of the community and their family to have sex with an Asian girl before marriage.†She said that the reason Asian men targeted very young white girls was because older white girls knew that a relationship with an Asian youth was unlikely to last as the community would seek an arranged marriage with someone from the Asian sub- continent. Police and groups campaigning to protect women insisted that the grooming of youngsters is not segregated along race lines, though there is concern at the attitudes of some young Asian men towards white girls. Parents claim that criminal networks are able to prey on young girls because the authorities are reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of upsetting race relations in areas of the North West with large ethnic minority communities. However, Ms Cryer added: “I think there is a problem with the view Asian men generally have about white women. Their view about white women is generally fairly low. They do not seem to understand that there are white girls as moral and as good as Asian girls.†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX_1138 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 goddamn! 10 butterfies!!! do they have any idea what it could do to those girls! i guess the only thing that saved them was a high metabolic rate. this is absolutely incredible... what leads to such a behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 I guess bloody BW movie is to be faulted traditionally they always show white female character as someone with loose sexual morality.. now given the nutjobs they are across the border take those depiction to heart and go for fishing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 >>>Parents claim that criminal networks are able to prey on young girls because the authorities are reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of upsetting race relations in areas of the North West with large ethnic minority communities. Political correctness going horribly wrong.Why aren't these guys charged with rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 U thought in india we don't take stand agains these guys for fear of adjudged cmmunal well britain is our baap in this regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feverpitch Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dada Rocks, While I'm sure that sexual encounters [with no strings attached] with white girls is surely a popular fantasy amongst South Asian men, the same can surely be proved wrt Caucasoid men and their desire for sex with women of other races [Negroid, Mongoloid, South Asian what have you].* It's a result of our natural curiosity, and subsequent desire for dominance/mastery over the "OTHER". However, the reason why such fantasies have never resulted in mass orgies, gang-rapes [with both the male and the female of the species being the 'active' agents] etc throughout history [except in times of strife, like wars, riots etc. when 'law and order' ceases to exist giving the powerful a false sense of being beyond governance/law/god], is because for each human desire, we have a corresponding taboo. Such taboos exist in each society/community/race./religion, and actually help us live in society in relative peace. IMHO, therefore, the above story, esp the way it has been framed -- ie, generalised to portray a community in scary terms by extrapolating from one case involving two individuals, smacks of a little bit of scaremongering about racial miscegenation, of the kind that is particularly prominent in American mythology. Like the hype about "White Slavery" that originated in NY around the 1910's, and gathered momentum in the South during the Civil Rights era. To the extent that even NYTimes did several editorials and had hundreds of front page stories of the same in and around 1912-1915 [i'll not go into the details and the reasons here, for straying too far off topic]. Either way, the story is certainly a sad one, but I'd think twice before condemning a whole community as what-have-you just because I've recently become aware of some stupid misogynistic quotation from the religious book the two men in the story above follow, and have been sufficiently scared by the same and/or feel that the degree of my feeling scared is directly proportional to my chances of entry into/closeness with the exalted world of whiteness, which I believe is the highest stage of human evolution. ************************************************ * I'm sure the scenario also holds when the gender roles are reversed, ie, women lusting men of a different race. Though, since women have to carry the burden and guilt of an encounter where the condom broke or the pill didn't work, I would expect them to be less proactive, as with any sexual encounter, than the males. And I'm applying pure, vulgar economic logic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 it's one case which went to conviction didn;t u see reluctance of police to take on these under fear of racism charge......... desire fantassy and actully going out and doing these acts are very different things.. stop being paologist for these folks I see u have this freaking tendency to do that eveyr time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feverpitch Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 it's one case which went to conviction didn;t u see reluctance of police to take on these under fear of racism charge......... desire fantassy and actully going out and doing these acts are very different things.. stop being paologist for these folks I see u have this freaking tendency to do that eveyr time... I did see a report by a right-of-center newspaper about the police being reluctant about pressing charges under fear of being labeled racist. Proves what? BTW, I imagine you meant to call me an apologist, not the dyspraxic garbage that you spewed out! Go read what I wrote carefully: IMHO, therefore, the above story, esp the way it has been framed -- ie, generalised to portray a community in scary terms by extrapolating from one case involving two individuals, smacks of a little bit of scaremongering about racial miscegenation, of the kind that is particularly prominent in American mythology. Like the hype about "White Slavery" that originated in NY around the 1910's, and gathered momentum in the South during the Civil Rights era. To the extent that even NYTimes did several editorials and had hundreds of front page stories of the same in and around 1912-1915 [i'll not go into the details and the reasons here, for straying too far off topic].Why are you hell bent on proving that you are trying hard to enter into [or be close] with the exalted world of whiteness, which you seem to believe is the highest stage of human evolution.:yay: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 I did see a report by a right-of-center newspaper about the police being reluctant about pressing charges under fear of being labeled racist. Proves what? BTW, I imagine you meant to call me an apologist, not the dyspraxic garbage that you spewed out! Go read what I wrote carefully: Why are you hell bent on proving that you are trying hard to enter into [or be close] with the exalted world of whiteness, which you seem to believe is the highest stage of human evolution.:yay: who wants to read an apologist drivel I know what u wud fart.. it;s same BS everytime.. so I don;t like what these mofos do and suddenly i ant to enter into exalted world of whiteness. exactly clowns like you are the ones perpetrataing this streotype of white and thereby fanning this kind of behaviour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feverpitch Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 who wants to read an apologist drivel I know what u wud fart.. it;s same BS everytime.. so I don;t like what these mofos do and suddenly i ant to enter into exalted world of whiteness. exactly clowns like you are the ones perpetrataing this streotype of white and thereby fanning this kind of behaviour... I am convinced that you are incapable of level headed debate, or decency. So I won't engage you anymore. All the same, I hope the mods will take a close look at your posts, and reign in the abusive garbage vat you call your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 and u start the crap and when someone gives u back suddenly decency comes to your mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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