Zelch Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Indi-es... The guy i asked also said they consider the Indi-es very lazy I came across this video of Chinese workers working on a power plant in Gujarat in 2010 on WSJ. The Chinese worker says, "If Chinese like me are given work we try to finish in the shortest time but Indians say tomorrow, may be after tea" :haha: @ 2.45 http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2010/02/11/video-chinese-workers-make-a-home-at-indian-power-plant/
bihutoli Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 there's a whole bollywood song dedicated to that insult. Kanchi re kanchi re Is nothing but Chinka re chinka re What a load of bs! Kanchi mean young girl in Nepali. In Shillong however since a lot of maids are of Nepali origin, people use this term to refer to maids. Those are the two widespread meaning of this word, it has nothing to do with 'chinka' whatever that means.
Desi Cartman Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I was talking about Chinese who live in US/Europe/SE Asia along side Indians. what do they call us? I asked a Chinese girl (:winky:) few years ago the same question and she said u dont want to know and I dont remember what name she told me but it means hairy creatures :icflove:
Desi Cartman Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chink Although some of these suggestions are that it originated from the Chinese courtesy ching-ching,[3] or that the word evolved from the other meaning of chink, which is a small crevice, crack, gap or a narrow opening, being a simile for small or slanted eyes. (Sometimes, the word is indeed employed as an adjective, as in chink-eyed.)[4]
Lord Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I asked a Chinese girl (:winky:) few years ago the same question and she said u dont want to know and I dont remember what name she told me but it means hairy creatures :icflove: gorilla?
Desi Cartman Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 gorilla? ya similar .. basically it meant something like Monkey-men :icflove:
nikred Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I asked a Chinese girl (:winky:) few years ago the same question and she said u dont want to know and I dont remember what name she told me but it means hairy creatures :icflove: aaw cho chweet. :icflove: Did you b**** slap her? :mad:
Desi Cartman Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 aaw cho chweet. :icflove: Did you b**** slap her? :mad: I had other ways to make her pay :alienbooty:
ganeshran Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I had other ways to make her pay :alienbooty: Kaki :call:
jind Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 a lot of these racial slurs hardly make sense... for example calling someone paki is considered racial.... while it may be told in a racial tone but the actual meaning derives its meaning from pure... i can understand an indian getting upset upset over being called paki (pakistani) but a pakistani being called a paki....lol :dontknow:
nikred Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 a lot of these racial slurs hardly make sense... for example calling someone paki is considered racial.... while it may be told in a racial tone but the actual meaning derives its meaning from pure... i can understand an indian getting upset upset over being called paki (pakistani) but a pakistani being called a paki....lol :dontknow: I was called a Paki only once, by a teenage white kid. I laughed at him, literally. :icflove:
ganeshran Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 a lot of these racial slurs hardly make sense... for example calling someone paki is considered racial.... while it may be told in a racial tone but the actual meaning derives its meaning from pure... i can understand an indian getting upset upset over being called paki (pakistani) but a pakistani being called a paki....lol :dontknow: Its considered racist in UK since its used as a generic term for all brown people from the subcontinent.
jind Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Its considered racist in UK since its used as a generic term for all brown people from the subcontinent. i thot that was 'south asian' in light of the recent protests by Indians at being grouped together with pakistanis in the recent grooming harassment cases :hysterical:
Andrew Peter Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Part of the blame also lies with Bollywood that has stereotyped certain communities beyond an acceptable limit. For instance a Mongloid was always shown as a good for nothing " Watchman " , commonly known as Bahadur and who always replied back in the same sentence " Jee Shaab Jee " . Back in the days we had a few Garwahli students in the class who were constantly teased with same stereotypes that were associated with Nepalis . However it didnt matter if the person is Garwahli , Gorkha or any NE , just the mongloid look was enough to mock them with whatever insults that came to mind . The poor fellows were in minority so they never showed any anger towards what we said and instead tried to laugh away with rest of the crowd however its certain that deep down they must be hurting . Contrary to the compassion shown by posters in various forums , things are still far from being normal . Generally , people are not considerate enough about the feelings of others , if one fellow starts the crap then the rest are likey to jump on the bandwagon for their moment of thrill .
suraj Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Part of the blame also lies with Bollywood that has stereotyped certain communities beyond an acceptable limit. For instance a Mongloid was always shown as a good for nothing " Watchman " ' date= commonly known as Bahadur and who always replied back in the same sentence " Jee Shaab Jee " . Back in the days we had a few Garwahli students in the class who were constantly teased with same stereotypes that were associated with Nepalis . However it didnt matter if the person is Garwahli , Gorkha or any NE , just the mongloid look was enough to mock them with whatever insults that came to mind . The poor fellows were in minority so they never showed any anger towards what we said and instead tried to laugh away with rest of the crowd however its certain that deep down they must be hurting . Contrary to the compassion shown by posters in various forums , things are still far from being normal . Generally , people are not considerate enough about the feelings of others , if one fellow starts the crap then the rest are likey to jump on the bandwagon for their moment of thrill . quite true- extending that to roles like the one that Mithun did in Agneepath south indians are portrayed in exaggerated manner often and don;t even get me started on how "kaale" (black) complexion is portrayed in movies even to this date
Zelch Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 OK guys here is an article written by a Black-American PhD student at Delhi School of Economics. 'India Is Racist, And Happy About It' A Black American's first-hand experience of footpath India: no one even wants to change In spite of friendship and love in private spaces, the Delhi public literally stops and stares. It is harrowing to constantly have children and adults tease, taunt, pick, poke and peer at you from the corner of their eyes, denying their own humanity as well as mine. Their aggressive, crude curiosity threatens to dominate unless disarmed by kindness, or met with equal aggression. Once I stood gazing at the giraffes at the Lucknow Zoo only to turn and see 50-odd families gawking at me rather than the exhibit. On a visit to the Lucknow zoo, people gawked more at me than at the exhibits. Parents abruptly withdrew infants that inquisitively wandered towards me. I felt like an exotic African creature-cum-spectacle, stirring fear and awe. Even my attempts to beguile the public through simple greetings or smiles are often not reciprocated. Instead, the look of wonder swells as if this were all part of the act and we were all playing our parts. Racism is never a personal experience. Racism in India is systematic and independent of the presence of foreigners of any hue. This climate permits and promotes this lawlessness and disdain for dark skin. Most Indian pop icons have light-damn-near-white skin. Several stars even promote skin-bleaching creams that promise to improve one's popularity and career success. Matrimonial ads boast of fair, v. fair and v. very fair skin alongside foreign visas and advanced university degrees. Moreover, each time I visit one of Delhi's clubhouses, I notice that I am the darkest person not wearing a work uniform. It's unfair and ugly. Discrimination in Delhi surpasses the denial of courtesy. I have been denied visas, apartments, entrance to discos, attentiveness, kindness and the benefit of doubt. Further, the lack of neighbourliness exceeds what locals describe as normal for a capital already known for its coldness. My partner is white and I am black, facts of which the Indian public reminds us daily. Bank associates have denied me chai, while falling over to please my white friend. Mall shop attendants have denied me attentiveness, while mobbing my partner. Who knows what else is more quietly denied? "An African has come," a guard announced over the intercom as I showed up. Whites are afforded the luxury of their own names, but this careful attention to my presence was not new. ATM guards stand and salute my white friend, while one guard actually asked me why I had come to the bank machine as if I might have said that I was taking over his shift. It is shocking that people wear liberalism as a sign of modernity, yet revert to ultraconservatism when actually faced with difference. Cyberbullies have threatened my life on my YouTube videos that capture local gawking and eve-teasing. I was even fired from an international school for talking about homosociality in Africa on YouTube, and addressing a class about homophobia against kids after a student called me a '***'. Outside of specific anchors of discourse such as Reservations, there is no consensus that discrimination is a redeemable social ill. This is the real issue with discrimination in India: her own citizens suffer and we are only encouraged to ignore situations that make us all feel powerless. Be it the mute-witnesses seeing racial difference for the first time, kids learning racism from their folks, or the blacks and northeasterners who feel victimised by the public, few operate from a position that believes in change. Living in India was a childhood dream that deepened with my growing understanding of India and America's unique, shared history of non-violent revolution. Yet, in most nations, the path of ending gender, race and class discrimination is unpaved. In India, this path is still rural and rocky as if this nation has not decided the road even worthy. It is a footpath that we are left to tread individually. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?250317
Zelch Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 From the comments section I'm an East Asian student studying in India, been living in India for over 10 years now. Racism in India is just too much, it is almost to the point where Indians fail to distinguish racism with being rude as a general. Being rude in general does not rationalize the uniformly racist behaviours in Indian public. Obviously there are nice Indians, but we foreigners feel that those nice Indians are of the rarity. I have been called momo, chinki, chinkchong, hakka noodles, chowmein numerous times in the public by Indians. Usually for the sake of their entertainment bullying around the minority segments of the society. The case with Blacks in India facing racism is rightly pointed out by the writer. Crazy varieties of fairness creams and cosmetics like fair & lovely, Garnier light, ponds white beauty floods the market and tv advertisements. Indians extremly desire white and fair skin. It is usually the north India's case where most people prefer white skinned girls. For the East Asian and East Indians, the influence of China on Indian society through the recent historical events plays a significant role. The whole Sino Indian war in the year 1962, case of Dalai Lama, and the brief period of hindi-chini bhai-bhai, and the whole rivalry of Asia's superpower position plus the regional tensions. All these factors adds to the genuine and uniform hatred or dislike towards the 'chinky' population by the Indian public. The austrailian violence against Indians may have helped Indian masses realize that they face much racism outside India. But there is no initiative to even look into the reality of racism so widely spread out in the Indian society. How much more racism should foriengers in India face? what hurts more is that India is not at all feeling guilty about racism against the foreingers, maybe because they are too busy controling racism against the regional groups within India. As much as I love India I really hope that India soon sees the reality of foreigners life in India. WBIO GURGAON, INDIA
Zelch Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I think this is mostly out of ignorance among Indians. These same people have several other things going wrong for them like corruption, pettyness, rudeness, lack of civic sense, lack of cleanliness etc etc. We will learn as more and more people get educated and travel abroad. The thing to notice here is that all those rude Indians dont exactly think that they are superior to "Blacks" and "Chinks".... its just that Indians being Hindus are very insular. The west has actually done atrocious things to racially inferior people much worse than our "rudeness" & "taunting" and have since then reformed themselves. We will follow suit but it will be a very slow process. The Germans and White Pacquis have actually conducted a genocide on racial lines. Thats real racism mixed with superiority complex.
suraj Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 I think this is mostly out of ignorance among Indians. These same people have several other things going wrong for them like corruption, pettyness, rudeness, lack of civic sense, lack of cleanliness etc etc. We will learn as more and more people get educated and travel abroad. The thing to notice here is that all those rude Indians dont exactly think that they are superior to "Blacks" and "Chinks".... its just that Indians being Hindus are very insular. The west has actually done atrocious things to racially inferior people much worse than our "rudeness" & "taunting" and have since then reformed themselves. We will follow suit but it will be a very slow process. The Germans and White Pacquis have actually conducted a genocide on racial lines. Thats real racism mixed with superiority complex. Interesting observation- this should actually make it easier to solve the problem vs. something like Nazism
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