Dhoni vs Bevan

[tothepoint]

Yuvraj has been one of the Best odi players in the world ' date='Better than steve waugh and far better than lehman.If you had watched crikcet in 1990s and early 2000s you would not be asking these questions,bevan won matches form hopeless situations,dhoni finshes matches better but in my book both are equal and when bevan played strike rates were not as high as they are today due to better bowlers and juicer pitches,250 was a good score in odis those days.[/quote'] Arre yaar kyu baar baar Yuvi ko beech me la kar emotional atyachaar kar ra hai. Faltu me dono(apun in particular) bakwaas kar rahe hai. According to you as of now, Dhoni = Bevan. According to me, Dhoni > Bevan. Dhoni wins. :two_thumbs_up:

[bihutoli]

He may be **** all in one dayers (debatable) but he is still a phattu in tests.

[The Dark Horse]

He is but he has had the advantage of coming in at whichever position he wants:wink:

[Raghav_12]

Dhoni is Bradman of finishers :--D

and if he keeps producing more match winning performances, he would soon become Sachin of finishers :winky:

[J P K]

Dhoni, the finisher, draws praise from rivals BRISBANE: He may be under pressure as a captain but as a finisher lower down the batting order, Indian skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni is considered one of the best in ODI cricket even by his rivals. There is compelling evidence by way of figures and comparison that Dhoni is a class finisher. Add to this the mix 189 catches, 63 stumpings, countless run-outs and captaincy to boot. Sri Lankan skipper Mahela Jayawardene was left shaking his head in disbelief on Tuesday when Dhoni snatched a tie. "One inch here and there and a guy like Dhoni could take you apart. He is a great finisher, he is cool and calm and backs himself. He is a strong character." Figures present the strongest claim in its support. Dhoni has been unbeaten in 30 of India's 49 successful chases and scored runs at an average of 104.89 in them. The best in the business - Michael Bevan, Lance Klusener, Abdul Razzaq and Jonty Rhodes - are nowhere close. In his 200 matches, Dhoni has been unbeaten 50 times or in every fourth innings of his career. With 44 fifties and seven century, Dhoni is scoring at least a half century in every four innings. He averages 51.41 for his 6632 runs with a strike rate of 88.32. Bevan betters him in average - 53.58 - but his strike rate of 74.16 lets him down. Yuvraj Singh has a similar strike rate - 87.60 - but then his average of 37.62 is nowhere near. Australian captain Michael Clarke was left ruing his team's fate after Dhoni chased down the 13 runs required in the final over on Sunday. "Dhoni is a class player. His statistics show it. He is a very good striker of the ball and you saw that in the last over with that six he hit off McKay," said Clarke. Dhoni, however, is awestruck by the vitality of Yuvraj as a finisher. "The only one consistent lower down the order was Yuvraj Singh at number six. It's a very difficult position to bat," Dhoni has said. Indeed, no job in one-day cricket is as difficult as that of a finisher. The player ought to be able to hit big yet be capable of manoeuvring the field with deft placements. He needs to be an excellent judge of a run and must have the speed to convert a single into a brace. Most of the time, the run-rate is climbing, the best bowlers are back in operation and the field is strategically placed. There is frustration when the lower-half isn't able to rotate the strike. Risk is ever present. Dhoni, over the years, has worked out a method. First and foremost, he's cool at all times. He isn't premeditated. He directed his partner Ravi Ashwin to square up to the threat of a yorker from Lasith Malinga on Tuesday. "Malinga has a yorker and a very good slower one which he disguises very well. It's difficult for the lower order to pick him up consistently. All I said (to Ashwin) was to wait for the ball but don't plan for a yorker. If you see it, then react to it." "Basically you keep the mind blank. For example, Malinga can bowl yorkers at will. It's important to be blank and back yourself to hit those for runs. You see the ball and look to hit it," Dhoni said. Barely 10 months old in international cricket, Dhoni once smashed 183 off 145 balls with 15 fours and 10 sixes against Sri Lanka in Jaipur in 2005. His early flamboyance has given way to nudges and pushes and big hits are rare - he has only hit two sixes in the present series - yet his strike-rate doesn't suffer by way of comparison. Men like Adam Gilchrist (96.95), Viv Richards (90.20) and Kapil Dev (95.07) have better strike-rates than Dhoni. A few like Sachin Tendulkar (18,176), Sanath Jayasuriya (13,430) and Ricky Ponting (13,695) would always remain out of his reach by way of runs. But it's difficult to think if these legends could have donned as many hats as Dhoni does - a batsman, keeper, captain and a finisher - and done as well over a period of time. He also hardly misses a game. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-australia/top-stories/Dhoni-the-finisher-draws-praise-from-rivals/articleshow/11898366.cms

[Ultimate_Game]

^^^ Good article and Dhoni certainly has been our most valuable player in the shorter formats for the last few years.

[Sid]

Yes he won us matches' date='But his average is surely inflated by his 30 notouts and in many matches he has not crossed 30.[/quote'] Dude you come across as a complet **** sometimes,the way you enter every thread which has Dhoni in its title and start with your counter arguement ****.Sometimes its better to give credit where the credit is due.IIRC youre same god of cricket,who came with piece of crap about if Dhoni would have been the kaptaan in Adelaide ,team would have given 100 runs more or some crap of that sort. Its good to have a diffrence of opions on most matters or about a player but dont go overboard with your personal vandetta(seems like it) against a player.

[Number]

Dude you come across as a complet **** sometimes,the way you enter every thread which has Dhoni in its title and start with your counter arguement ****.Sometimes its better to give credit where the credit is due.IIRC youre same god of cricket,who came with piece of crap about if Dhoni would have been the kaptaan in Adelaide ,team would have given 100 runs more or some crap of that sort. Its good to have a diffrence of opions on most matters or about a player but dont go overboard with your personal vandetta(seems like it) against a player.

:cantstop: He is a Sreesanth fan who believes India lost it's Donald in one press conference of Dhoni. :haha:

[Sidhoni]

Dhoni>Bevan Proved once again

[CG]

Dude you come across as a complet **** sometimes,the way you enter every thread which has Dhoni in its title and start with your counter arguement ****.Sometimes its better to give credit where the credit is due.IIRC youre same god of cricket,who came with piece of crap about if Dhoni would have been the kaptaan in Adelaide ,team would have given 100 runs more or some crap of that sort. Its good to have a diffrence of opions on most matters or about a player but dont go overboard with your personal vandetta(seems like it) against a player.

:hysterical:Dude why so serious? Does saying something agianst dhoni hurt you so much.Surely A captain who has lost 7 tests abroad and cannot bat it tests deserves some flak,A captain who has different standards for his mates in the team who can abuses and not get reprimanded ,who critizes players publicly to save his ass.Promotes himself when going is good and...................... When dhoni started i was a big fan of his ,still love his composure but he has regressed both as a leader and batsman and yes in adelaide we did get the test to day 5 where mr dhoni could not even make us last 5 days.

[CG]

:cantstop: He is a Sreesanth fan who believes India lost it's Donald in one press conference of Dhoni. :haha:

Yup i am and are you saying your captain blasting you infront of media after you won a test and took 5 fer will not affect morale .what dhoni did was a disgrace to any team sport and if played for a team you would know.

[Sid]

Dude why so serious? Surely A captain who has lost 7 tests abroad and cannot bat it tests deserves some flak,A captain who has different standards for his mates in the team who can abuses and not get reprimanded ,who critizes players publicly to save his ass. When dhoni started i was a big fan of his ,still love his composure but he has regressed both as a leader and captain.

Is this thread about his 7 test losses,am I stopping you to not give him flak for his test captaincy but nonsense such as what you posted about 100 more runs in Adelaide and now going on in this thread about support of other players etc ,is taking critcism to another level.

[CG]

Is this thread about his 7 test losses' date='am I stopping you to not give him flak for his test captaincy but nonsense such as what you posted about 100 more runs in Adelaide and now going on in this thread about support of other players etc ,is taking critcism to another level.[/quote'] When did i start ,You brought it in .

[Ultimate_Game]

Dude why so serious? Does saying something agianst dhoni hurt you so much.Surely A captain who has lost 7 tests abroad and cannot bat it tests deserves some flak,A captain who has different standards for his mates in the team who can abuses and not get reprimanded ,who critizes players publicly to save his ass.Promotes himself when going is good and...................... When dhoni started i was a big fan of his ,still love his composure but he has regressed both as a leader and batsman.

You are right to lambast him for his Test performances, both as a batsman and a captain, but Dhoni doesn't deserve the criticism for his performances in the shorter format.In fact Dhoni should give up Tests and solely focus on shorter formats where he is one of the world's best.

[CG]

You are right to lambast him for his Test performances' date=' both as a batsman and a captain, but Dhoni doesn't deserve the criticism for his performances in the shorter format.In fact Dhoni should give up Tests and solely focus on shorter formats where he is one of the world's best.[/quote'] Yes ,But sid started it.

[Ultimate_Game]

Yes but sid started it.

:haha:

[Sid]

When did i start ' date='You brought it in .[/quote'] What did I brought in ,god of cricket?

[amiret]

Dhoni is better than Bevan

No doubt . IN Odi's Dhoni is one of the best ever. In Tests he is rubbish.

[CG]

What did I brought in ' date='god of cricket?[/quote'] Sometimes its better to give credit where the credit is due.IIRC youre same god of cricket,who came with piece of crap about if Dhoni would have been the kaptaan in Adelaide ,team would have given 100 runs more or some crap of that sort. Its good to have a diffrence of opions on most matters or about a player but dont go overboard with your personal vandetta(seems like it) against a player. what has my posts in adelaide test to do with this thread and I am suprised you remember it .As i said he is as good as bevan .But Averages are affected by notouts did i say something false.

[Sid]

Sometimes its better to give credit where the credit is due.IIRC youre same god of cricket,who came with piece of crap about if Dhoni would have been the kaptaan in Adelaide ,team would have given 100 runs more or some crap of that sort. Its good to have a diffrence of opions on most matters or about a player but dont go overboard with your personal vandetta(seems like it) against a player. .As i said he is as good as bevan .Averages are affected by notouts arent they.

Can you with god of cricket brain,show us the logic of 100 more runs under Dhoni's kaptaani :nervous:

Yes dhoni is a great finisher,But his average is greatly helped by notouts,Its either raina or yuvraj who do the main job of lowering the run out and get out ,dhoni hits out at last.

another of your gems,oh wait Dhoni is a greatest finisher but the hard work is done by Yuvi,Raina but Dhoni just gets a not out in end and takes away the credit