Zero_Unit Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 is it just me or did ICC choose the wrong time/place for the WC to take place. Almost 1/3 of the matches has been struck with the rain and ruined it for a lot of us. The tournament is already lame (srilanka dosen't know how to host properly) and now this rain is just being a thorn sticking out of the bush.
NareshK Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 From this stage on, if the rain doesnt interfere we are in for a cracking tournament.
Needforspeed Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 From this stage on' date=' if the rain doesnt interfere we are in for a cracking tournament.[/quote'] Rain is predicted for our first two Super 8 matches. September is supposed to be the Rainy season in Sri Lanka.
Sidhoni Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Twenty20 cricket needs a specialised rain rule LINK Twenty20 cricket is religion to some, a leap of faith to others, and blasphemy to the rest. During this rainy season in Sri Lanka, though, those who worship at T20's altar will have their faith tested. On the best and driest of days it is argued, and not without merit, that Twenty20 is not exactly cricket. A batsman's wicket is devalued over such a short duration, and the bowler is often so marginalised that he is slave to the skill and luck of the batsman, who has lost all fear because of the devaluation of his wicket. And when Twenty20 matches are curtailed because of rain, regardless of whether it happens before or during the game, they become ridiculous affairs. Twenty20 was a bit of a lark featuring vintage jerseys, fake moustaches and one real Afro when international cricket first embraced it, but it is serious business now - serious enough to cause diplomatic rows and for players to ditch their national sides. It is not hit and giggle anymore. However, even 10 years and four World Cups since the inception of Twenty20, no controlling body has grasped that this format is far removed from traditional cricket, and that it needs its own grammar and its own playing conditions, especially on rainy days. The bottom line, the fact that it provides a result in three hours, is the only obsession. That we will go to ludicrous lengths - finishing a match in 60 balls - and that we haven't yet scaled Duckworth-Lewis to this format makes a mockery of what is still officially called cricket. Two group matches of this World Twenty20 sum up what is wrong with the rain rules especially when the equilibrium between bat and ball is already stretched to within a thin strand of snapping. The first was the contest between Sri Lanka and South Africa, which was reduced to seven overs a side, the shortest pre-decided innings in limited-overs internationals. Had they moved the "match" to Stardust casino in Colombo, it would have involved less luck. An ODI is considered a match only when the teams have played 20 overs or ended their innings, which is 40% of the original duration. A Twenty20 is considered a match as soon as the teams have played 25% of the original duration. If such reduced games are to be taken seriously, surely the wickets in hand have to come down proportionately? Limited-overs cricket without the fear of being bowled out and thus not utilising all the overs is no fun. An F5 to decide the world champions will be right ridiculous. There is also the flawed belief that the Duckworth-Lewis method doesn't need to be adapted to 20-over games. Not many will argue that D/L is a fair system to resolve rain-interrupted ODIs, with an agreeable weightage assigned to wickets in hand. Some will argue that the rival to D/L - the VJD method, formulated by an Indian mathematician - is better, but the difference between the two is as big as split hairs. However, it is plain to see that wickets in hand don't mean nearly as much in Twenty20 as they do in ODIs. Not, it seems, to ICC and D/L. In a bylined article on ESPNcricinfo in September 2012, Frank Duckworth and Tony Lewis wrote, "Experience from extensive data over recent years shows that the same formula very closely fits both 50-over and T20 average totals and also other lengths of matches in between (eg: South Africa's and ECB's 40-over competitions). Consequently, the same single formula satisfactorily covers all the various formats of the limited-overs game." Consequently, a team chasing 200 needs to be just 46 for 0 if no play is possible after five overs. In a full game, when defending 199, most fielding teams will take the opposition being 46 after five Powerplay overs, never mind the number of wickets, but that perfectly acceptable bowling effort will result in a loss if it rains. In the match that started minutes after the seven-over farce in Hambantota, Australia were declared winners after they reached 100 for 1 in 9.1 overs in pursuit of 192, because rain prevented further play. That they won is not a surprise, but that they would have tied the game even if they were 100 for 5 is. It suggests the five remaining wickets are massively overvalued. Duckworth and Lewis are learned scientists and they have a formula that the lay follower can't comprehend or access, but it is also obvious that using the same ODI formula doesn't work for high-scoring Twenty20 games. The threat of rain looming over the later rounds of this World Twenty20 has brought into focus the shortcomings of both the minimum overs required for a result, and the method used to arrive at those results. It needed Sydney 1992 to happen for cricket to seriously start thinking of a proper rain rule in ODIs. It shouldn't take a farcical final in Sri Lanka for T20 to follow suit. Agreed.
jairamesh Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 15 minutes of rain did more damage to India than any bowling or batting in the super 8s.
Ultimate_Game Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 15 minutes of rain did more damage to India than any bowling or batting in the super 8s. Our fault. We should have chased after winning the toss.
Crookbond Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Our fault. We should have chased after winning the toss. W did not win the toss! :mad:
Sidhoni Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 15 minutes of rain did more damage to India than any bowling or batting in the super 8s. No kind of rain rule could have prevented that from happening.
Ultimate_Game Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 W did not win the toss! :mad: Against Aus we did, and that's where the 15 mins of rain made the difference. If the prediction is for it to rain, it makes much more sense to chase in a T20.
Crookbond Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Against Aus we did' date=' and that's where the 15 mins of rain made the difference. If the prediction is for it to rain, it makes much more sense to chase in a T20.[/quote'] Prediction - yes but we were forced to bat due to the five bowler theory. Ganguly and England trolled us big time.
Ultimate_Game Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Prediction - yes but we were forced to bat due to the five bowler theory. Ganguly and England trolled us big time. Our fault for not figuring it out that Eng is shyte against spinners, any spinner for that matter. We whitewashed them 5-0 in the last odi series where they couldn't even play Sir Jaddu :omg: Deviating away from our 7-4 formula based on spinners' performances against England was foolhardy at best and we deserved to pay the price. I have no doubt had we one with our usual 7-4 formula we would have fared much better.
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