CG Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Sydney and Adelaide - spins? When! At least not when India tours there. Did u not watch our 2008 series .
Crookbond Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Did u not watch our 2008 series . I did - just because spinners take wickets does not make Sydney/Adelaide a spinning wicket. Apart from that there is the 2004 and 2011 series too. Spin my a---ss. One odd Test match it may have spun but for the rest of the matches it is a flat wicket with good bounce & carry through. Adelaide is as flat track as you will see in Australia but I don't blame them - it's good.
Crookbond Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Last time when India toured there they thought India was a strong team and could cause an upset they planned very well also all the tracks were way way greener then they are usually, Craig also worked very well with the bowling attack to bowl exactly where Indians will find it difficult, we were out done and importantly out thought. It does spin on those two tracks under normal circumstances, they had prepared harder greener tracks to overcome their short comings which was rookie bowling attack and out of form batting and in the process their batters also ran into form. Same happened in 2004 - they did not have McGrath and Warne & therefore resorted to flatter wickets than usual. Did it spin at SCG in 2004? None that I recall off! You don't call it a spinning wicket if it is prepared conveniently. Just because Nagpur 2004 was a bowling paradise does not make it so for the rest of it's life.
CG Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 I did - just because spinners take wickets does not make Sydney/Adelaide a spinning wicket. Apart from that there is the 2004 and 2011 series too. Spin my a---ss. One odd Test match it may have spun but for the rest of the matches it is a flat wicket with good bounce & carry through. Adelaide is as flat track as you will see in Australia but I don't blame them - it's good. What are u taking about? Clarke and symonds destroyed india in sydney and in 2004 it was kumble who took 12 wickets. I think you are confusing dustbowls to spinning tracks.
Crookbond Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 What are u taking about? Clarke and symonds destroyed india in sydney and in 2004 it was kumble who took 12 wickets. I think you are confusing dustbowls to spinning tracks. Chicha - Symonds took three wickets of Dravid (who was not out), Yuvraj Singh and Dhoni. Clarke took the tailender wickets. The bowler who caused the real damage was Stuart Clark and Brett Lee who got - Laxman, Tendulkar and Ganguly. Kumble took 12 wickets in Sydney 2004 for a gazillion runs - it was as flat a wicket as you will see. Both teams scored nearly 700 runs.
MCcricket Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 Chicha - Symonds took three wickets of Dravid (who was not out), Yuvraj Singh and Dhoni. Clarke took the tailender wickets. The bowler who caused the real damage was Stuart Clark and Brett Lee who got - Laxman, Tendulkar and Ganguly. Kumble took 12 wickets in Sydney 2004 for a gazillion runs - it was as flat a wicket as you will see. Both teams scored nearly 700 runs. That it self under lines the point , in Australia you have different kind of wickets and there are good players who can use their feet well and play the spinners, Clarke, Watto, Hussey, Warner TO NAME A FEW.Lets stick to the thread though.
Crookbond Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 That it self under lines the point ' date=' in Australia you have different kind of wickets and there are good players who can use their feet well and play the spinners, Clarke, Watto, Hussey, Warner TO NAME A FEW.Lets stick to the thread though.[/quote'] How does one Test match make the wickets full of variety? Just one Sydney Test match spinning wicket! :ohmy: If anything, I would nominate England as a place where there are quite different types of wickets.
MCcricket Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 How does one Test match make the wickets full of variety? Just one Sydney Test match spinning wicket! :ohmy: If anything, I would nominate England as a place where there are quite different types of wickets. My friend I gotta sleep tonight and it is almost 2 am, in England conditions very largely and also are very dependent on fickle weather, whereas Australia is a big country and has vastly different conditions and pitches , even India should have a similar variety which is beginning to happen but when even Ranji or any domestic game of consequence is played the home side will make it a flat batting track.
Crookbond Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 My friend I gotta sleep tonight and it is almost 2 am' date=' in England conditions very largely and also are very dependent on fickle weather, whereas Australia is a big country and has vastly different conditions and pitches , even I[b']ndia should have a similar variety which is beginning to happen but when even Ranji or any domestic game of consequence is played the home side will make it a flat batting track. IMO, the best way is to field players in the country cricket. But, yup there can be other solutions as well. It was nice discussing with you. :shakehands:
MCcricket Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 IMO' date=' the best way is to field players in the country cricket. But, yup there can be other solutions as well. It was nice discussing with you. :shakehands:[/quote'] I had fun , but am too tired and all we can hope for is our team beating OZ, POMS, SAFFERS on their turf, THEY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH DHONI AT THE HELM , LUCKY FOR US CHEEKA AN CO ARE GONE
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