Ranji Trophy 2012-2013, Teams, Stats, Talent

[MCcricket]

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) announced the dates of India's main domestic tournament Ranji Trophy. The tournament, involving all the states, will begin on November 2nd, 2012. According to the new regulations, teams will be divided into 3 groups: A, B and C. The top three teams from groups A and B will compete along with the top two teams in group C in the quarter finals which will commence in January 2013. Ranji Trophy Groups Group A: 1 Rajasthan 2 Mumbai 3 Hyderabad 4 MP 5 Saurashtra 6 Railways 7 Bengal 8 Punjab 9 Gujarat Groupd B: 1 Tamil Nadu 2 Haryana 3 Maharashtra 4 Karnataka 5 Uttar Pradesh 6 Baroda 7 Delhi 8 Vidarbha 9 Odisha Group C: 1 Himachal Pradesh 2 Kerala 3 Andhra Pradesh 4 Services 5 Tripura 6 Goa 7 Jharkhand 8 Jammu & Kashmir 9 Assam. Punjab Ranji squad: Harbhajan singh (capt), Mandeep Singh (vice-capt), Karan Goel, Jeevanjot Singh, Yuvraj Singh, Uday Kaul, Mayank Sidhana, Amitoze Singh, Rahul Sharma, Siddarth Kaul, Manpreet Gony, Sandeep Sharma, Gurkirat Mann, Bipul Sharma and Rajwinder Singh Delhi Probables: Virender Sehwag (captain), Gautam Gambhir (vice-captain), Virat Kohli, Rajat Bhatia, Shikhar Dhawan, Mithun Manhas, Ashish Nehra, Ishant Sharma, Puneet Bisht, Unmukt Chand, Yogesh Nagar, Sumit Narwal, Pradeep Sangwan, Parvinder Awana, Mohit Sharma, Vikas Mishra, Pawan Suyal, Manoj Chauhan, Milind Kumar, Dhruv Shorey, Jagrit Anand, Vaibhav Rawal, Sunny Sehrawat, Kshitiz Sharma, Rishit Saini, Javed Khan, Parvesh Chikara, Manan Sharma, Varun Sood, Chetanya Nanda, Rahul Yadav, Shoaib Prasad, Vikram Dahiya, Shelly Shaurya, Vikas Tokas. Mumbai Probables: Sachin Tendulkar, Wasim Jaffer, Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Ajit Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, Abhishek Nayar, Ramesh Powar, Suryakumar Yadav, Dhaval Kulkarni, Amol Muzumdar, Iqbal Abdullah, Ankit Chavan, Aavishkar Salvi, Aditya Tare, Wilkin Mota, Hiken Shah, Vinit Indulkar, Bhavin Thakkar, Harmeet Singh, Kshemal Waingankar, Praful Waghela, Kaustubh Pawar, Balwinder Singh Sandhu (Jr), Sagar Gorivale, Siddhesh Lad, Javed Khan, Nikhil Patil (Jr), Prateek Dabholkar, Swapnil Salvi, Swapnil Pradhan, Neelkanth Parab, Mohd. Ameer, Rakesh Prabhu, Oninder Singh Gill. With both teams from Elite and Plate leagues from the year before getting more games, hopefully better scheduling and better tracks we will see some good games and some players stake their claim for higher honours, also with better coverage and live broadcast of more games this year we can watch more players and hopefully some good rookies

[rkt.india]

Mumbai Probables: Sachin Tendulkar, Wasim Jaffer, Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Ajit Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, Abhishek Nayar, Ramesh Powar, Suryakumar Yadav, Dhaval Kulkarni, Amol Muzumdar, Iqbal Abdullah, Ankit Chavan, Aavishkar Salvi, Aditya Tare, Wilkin Mota, Hiken Shah, Vinit Indulkar, Bhavin Thakkar, Harmeet Singh, Kshemal Waingankar, Praful Waghela, Kaustubh Pawar, Balwinder Singh Sandhu (Jr), Sagar Gorivale, Siddhesh Lad, Javed Khan, Nikhil Patil (Jr), Prateek Dabholkar, Swapnil Salvi, Swapnil Pradhan, Neelkanth Parab, Mohd. Ameer, Rakesh Prabhu, Oninder Singh Gill.

He is the guy to watch out for if selected. Hope, they select, though low possibilities. MCA selectors are not known for taking risks and go for wild cards. They will rather play trundler brigade of Waingenkar, Balvinder, etc. who can move the SG ball enough to be effective, but they found out soon with Kookabura ball like Rituraj has been first in Duleep Trophy and now in New Zealand.

[MCcricket]

Players I want to keep track of this season , and see more of them this year and also players who are making a comeback after injury. Sreesanth hopefully Pawan Suyal is fit and hopefully we can see him perform and also we need to find some good bowlers Sudeep Tyagi was one youngster who I thought had potential , hopefully he can make a good comeback Mohd Aamir Anwar Ahmed who I think might be the left arm quick we are looking for Abu Nechim can be our ODI , T20 bowler. VRV Singh not even in the Punjab side as of now, nice guy who had a lot of promise one of the best U19 bowlers we had, see what he does this year. Manpreet Gony in a country short of fast bowling talent wonder why he is not even in the picture U19 stars Harmeet, S Sharma, Unmukt, Baba, Ravikant, Sayyid. Pankaj Singh has potential and hopefully can raise his game and fitness a bit to get in the frame of things. M Amir is supposedly a real fast bowling find for Mumbai hopefully he gets a chance. Shami Ahmed this might be the year for him to get into Team India Manish Pandey Mandeep Singh Murali probably will play for team again Rohit Rayudu who has rekindled his chances if he has a great season , a prodigy who had fallen by the way side. Uday Kaul and Saha among keepers who should be in the picture for higher honors

[MCcricket]

He is the guy to watch out for if selected. Hope' date=' they select, though low possibilities. MCA selectors are not known for taking risks and go for wild cards. They will rather play trundler brigade of Waingenkar, Balvinder, etc.[/quote'] With Kurruvilla at the helm hopefully selectors are not partisan and go for talent, Mumbai team especially bowlers is a joke, this guy I hear is real.Even Rahil has done real good in local tourneys and I hear is fit and bowling fast.

[saneindian]

Nothing is going to change. The flat pattas will rule the roost and then come peak winter time, pitches in North India will aid swing due to favorable weather conditions. Hopefully they will play more matches at grounds like Mysore, Motibagh Stadium (Baroda), Bansilal Stadium (Rohtak), Meerut, Anantpur...perhaps some of the better sporting wickets in the country.

[MCcricket]

Nothing is going to change. The flat pattas will rule the roost and then come peak winter time, pitches in North India will aid swing due to favorable weather conditions. Hopefully they will play more matches at grounds like Mysore, Motibagh Stadium (Baroda), Bansilal Stadium (Rohtak), Meerut, Anantpur...perhaps some of the better sporting wickets in the country.

The biggest detriment to Indian cricket and for it not preparing players for the rigours of international cricket are, flat tracks, crammed schedule, too many teams, at least now there will be more games and BCCI should look after the domestic bowlers as bowling on those tracks and getting no rest between games makes bowlers who have pace and potential to begin with turn trundlers and also get injured, loose momentum,Suyal Aaron, Tyagi, VRV, AND COUNTLESS OTHER BOWLERS WHO HAD POTENTIAL AND LOST THEIR WAY.

[Crookbond]

If by FLAT you mean spinning tracks then I tend to disagree that they do not develop skill.

[MCcricket]

If by FLAT you mean spinning tracks then I tend to disagree that they do not develop skill.

Flat tracks where any mediocre players can pile on the runs and good bowlers look average, a good track is the one which will seam and swing initially with some pace, then will become a batting wicket also start spinning a bit more towards the final day, spinners seamer's both can come into play initially as they both can enjoy the conditions as bounce will help them both, batters with better technique can stay long enough to play on when the wicket gets easier, spinners then can rap up the game and faster bowlers can get some reverse so we might see more results also in 4 days.

[Crookbond]

Flat tracks where any mediocre players can pile on the runs and good bowlers look average' date=' a good track is the one which will seam and swing initially with some pace, then will become a batting wicket also start spinning a bit more towards the final day, spinners seamer's both can come into play initially as they both can enjoy the conditions as bounce will help them both, batters with better technique can stay long enough to play on when the wicket gets easier, spinners then can rap up the game and faster bowlers can get some reverse so we might see more results also in 4 days.[/quote'] Is it a problem if tracks are more spin friendly and do not assist swing?

[MCcricket]

Is it a problem if tracks are more spin friendly and do not assist swing?

Then we will had players like Badrinath, Tiwary, and most other players who **** in their path seeing a decent bowler bang in shot and no idea as how to play square of the wicket,and that is not their fault entirely, will limit our success to being at home, which we are good at .

[Crookbond]

Then we will had players like Badrinath' date=' Tiwary, and most other players who **** in their path seeing a decent bowler bang in shot and no idea as how to play square of the wicket,and that is not their fault entirely, will limit our success to being at home, which we are good at .[/quote'] But, isn't that how it is all over the world? There are batsman from Australia or South Africa who play spin well. How does that happen? I don't see any decent spinner from Australia or any spinning wicket in Australia either.

[MCcricket]

But' date=' isn't that how it is all over the world? There are batsman from Australia or South Africa who play spin well. How does that happen? I don't see any decent spinner from Australia or any spinning wicket in Australia either.[/quote'] In Australia if you compare, Perth , Melbourne,Sydney and other major venues they range from being fast decks, to sporty wickets and to batting tracks, most are sporting wickets though, just because some one else is doing some thing wrong doesn't mean we repeat the mistakes, also Australia has been more successful then any other team and has won more away from home then most teams, they had fantastic spinners in Warne, Mc Gill.England and SA also have decent spinners now and the tracks there are also sporting on most occasions except when the weather is bad.NZ seem to have most extreme conditions and wickets and Bangladesh on the other extreme have the flattest decks and see where their cricket is at.

[Crookbond]

In Australia if you compare' date=' Perth , Melbourne,Sydney and other major venues they range from being fast decks, to sporty wickets and to batting tracks, most are sporting wickets though, just because some one else is doing some thing wrong doesn't mean we repeat the mistakes, also Australia has been more successful then any other team and has won more away from home then most teams, they had fantastic spinners in Warne, Mc Gill.England and SA also have decent spinners now and the tracks there are also sporting on most occasions except when the weather is bad.NZ seem to have most extreme conditions and wickets and Bangladesh on the other extreme have the flattest decks and see where their cricket is at.[/quote'] It's not about Australia having a spin bowler occasionally - we have had occasional fast bowlers too. The question is on the nature of the wickets. Just like you will rarely find a bouncy track in India similarly, you will rarely find a spinning wicket in Australia. Now, I need to understand what are you against - flat wickets or spinning wickets. Spinning wickets are equally "sporty" just like wickets with pace & bounce.

[Sean Bradley]

My worst fear, not a single new spinner of note :((

[MCcricket]

It's not about Australia having a spin bowler occasionally - we have had occasional fast bowlers too. The question is on the nature of the wickets. Just like you will rarely find a bouncy track in India similarly' date=' you will rarely find a spinning wicket in Australia. Now, I need to understand what are you against - flat wickets or spinning wickets. Spinning wickets are equally "sporty" just like wickets with pace & bounce.[/quote'] A track that takes turn from day one, gets worse, stays low and slow, ball stops , is not a sporty wicket, also makes cricket un attractive, we dont need to have tracks like Australia and England but have wickets which bring players with different skills to the fore and not just flat track bullies, spinners who can only bowl on slow tracks. Why did WI CRICKET SLIDE TO MEDIOCICITY, WICB, BASKETBALL, nature of tracks, loosing fan base and interest because of the reasons and also causing a decline in talent.A fast or sporting wicket will mostly slow down and take turn for the latter half giving their players an advantage but a flat and slow spinning deck will not get faster or test the skills of batters or bowlers adequately.

[Crookbond]

A track that takes turn from day one' date= gets worse, stays low and slow, ball stops , is not a sporty wicket, also makes cricket un attractive, we dont need to have tracks like Australia and England but have wickets which bring players with different skills to the fore and not just flat track bullies, spinners who can only bowl on slow tracks. Why did WI CRICKET SLIDE TO MEDIOCICITY, WICB, BASKETBALL, nature of tracks, loosing fan base and interest because of the reasons and also causing a decline in talent.A fast or sporting wicket will mostly slow down and take turn for the latter half giving their players an advantage but a flat and slow spinning deck will not get faster or test the skills of batters or bowlers adequately.

That's not the definition of a spinning track.

[CG]

I just love australian pitches and ground.Your technique is tested with variety of conditions. Mcg-Its seams and is mostly a sticky wicket Sydney-swings initially and turns in day 4 and 5 perth-well we know everything adelaide-flat but aids reverseswing and spin Brisbane-bounce an pace

[MCcricket]

I just love australian pitches and ground.Your technique is tested with variety of conditions. Mcg-Its seams and is mostly a sticky wicket Sydney-swings initially and turns in day 4 and 5 perth-well we know everything adelaide-flat but aids reverseswing and spin Brisbane-bounce an pace

I agree the variety of conditions and wickets along with strong domestic cricket and planning make Australia one of the best cricket playing nation till date in terms of results, the very same reasons effect us as we lack in all three areas.

[Crookbond]

I just love australian pitches and ground.Your technique is tested with variety of conditions. Mcg-Its seams and is mostly a sticky wicket Sydney-swings initially and turns in day 4 and 5 perth-well we know everything adelaide-flat but aids reverseswing and spin Brisbane-bounce an pace

Sydney and Adelaide - spins? When! At least not when India tours there.

[MCcricket]

Sydney and Adelaide - spins? When! At least not when India tours there.

Last time when India toured there they thought India was a strong team and could cause an upset they planned very well also all the tracks were way way greener then they are usually, Craig also worked very well with the bowling attack to bowl exactly where Indians will find it difficult, we were out done and importantly out thought. It does spin on those two tracks under normal circumstances, they had prepared harder greener tracks to overcome their short comings which was rookie bowling attack and out of form batting and in the process their batters also ran into form.