Lurker Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 But , I can understand where you are coming from. But , I strongly feel that aggressive behavior exhibited by most Indian players which includes the likes of karthik and Yuvi are reciprocative in nature which is perfectly fine with me. Heck , I still remember Yuvi shoulder arming Umar Gul in the last tour . The same is not the case with idiots like Afridi , Nel , Gul and yes our own Sreesanth. This guy acts like a jerk and his behavior should not be condoned in my humble opinion. Yep, thats what I mean. Be prepared to fight your own battles, no reason why we should be the instigator here. But if need be go after the opposition teams, why not? Is India the only country that has to worry about cricket being a gentleman's game? Why not Australia the last 2 times champions? xxx
Holysmoke Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I repeat. Is it within the spirit of the game?
The Outsider Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 The man who talks hosanas about Dravid-Slater incident only to become a Mickey Mouse later on? Thus far you were the first one to mention how Dravid was aggressive when it came to Slater incident and then became a little girl afterwards. What happened there Shwetabh? I've already answered that. Besides the subjective lip and body langauge reading, we wont get anywhere on that. Heck, you can't even acknowledge objective criteria like runs. The only tangible and measurable quality there was how Dravid turned the series around on its head, something you find irrelevant because it does not involve playing kabaddi. So what's left to discuss there? The issue is fans like you doing what SRT should be doing - fighting his own battles. Dont get frustrated at me simply because SRT and Dravid come across as second best when it comes to aggression. With your twisted definition of aggression, I am surprised they even qualified to take part in the kabaddi competition.:hysterical:
kumble_rocks Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Yep' date=' thats what I mean. [b']Be prepared to fight your own battles, no reason why we should be the instigator here. But if need be go after the opposition teams, why not? Is India the only country that has to worry about cricket being a gentleman's game? Why not Australia the last 2 times champions? xxx That I would agree with you in full. That's why I admire players like Kumble or Yuvi who indulge only in reciprocative aggression.
kumble_rocks Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Lurks and Shwetabh , chill guys. :beer_yum:I have never seen you guys go after each other ! And all because of that stupid Sreesanth . I told you he was a trouble maker !:D:D
Lurker Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I've already answered that. Besides the subjective lip and body langauge reading, we wont get anywhere on that. Heck, you can't even acknowledge objective criteria like runs. The only tangible and measurable quality there was how Dravid turned the series around on its head, something you find irrelevant because it does not involve playing kabaddi. So what's left to discuss there? Because those are two different things. I am a great Kapil fan, in my opinion the greatest Indian player ever. But that doesnt mean I will say Kapil Dev was the greatest Indian captain. That would be stupid. In the similar manner SRT and Dravid may be the greatest Indian batsmen but did they leave me with a feeling of taking the battle to the other team when cornered with bad behaviour. Hell NO. I am not sure why you find that so hard to understand. With your twisted definition of aggression, I am surprised they even qualified to take part in the kabaddi competition.:hysterical: Ah yes the personal attack. Well better to be twisted than a complete pu$$y who talks as if knows a bit(Slater incident) but then goes about beating the bush eh Shwetabh? xxx
The Outsider Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Ah yes the personal attack. Well better to be twisted than a complete pu$ who talks as if knows a bit(Slater incident) but then goes about beating the bush eh Shwetabh? It's called anticipating the futileness of something and not wasting your time over it. Anyhow, I am done here. Let's hope we have better things to talk about tomorrow after the result.
dial_100 Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I think Dhondu, Shwetabh and Gambo to some extend have worded it right... .I dont like outright sledging the ausies style. Little stair, word or two is good...This game was made for gentlemen. Now its been played and watch by even hooligans...This aggression really suits in this chaddi cricket...The reason being the time, stamina. You dont need the fire power for more than 5-10 overs... Which even a guy in chaddi can carry out. Gentleman, dressed in a WHITE trouser, has to carry it for days together... Yes someone correctly said, we have selected right tteam for this version of game. These aggressive bunch will look like puppies in the Test match.... That aggression is worth pennies in the test matches... Dravid can litterally grind you for sesions until you are left with skelleton. Dont take this discussion on Dravid and SRT... talk about chaddi players...
Anakin Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I knew the same old issue would come up. I'll take a SRT or RD's behavior and performance any day over the OTT aggression by SS or anyone else. For starters it gets quite boring after 2 times at most and then you need to have the ability to back that up. And before the stats masters start playing with numbers without much context, there is a reason why most bowlers don't sledge players like SRT or RD and the ones who did have already learned the hard way why not to, that includes our own SS as well. As I said before, I prefer to watch the ball and bat do the talking in stead of all this drama. I called Nel and idiot and SS is quite close to him in that regard too. BTW, one win over OZs in 20/20 suddenly doesn't make these kids better than SRT or RD, even the zimboks beat them in this glorified format not very long ago.
Gaurav Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Just click my sig to see Tendu baba ka cold silent killer aggression. CHAK DE INDIA!
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Predator_05 Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 hehehee ... whatta thread .... if being agressive as in a classless bully way eg : McGrat' date=' Lillee way is the right thing to do ..... I think I need to find a new sport to watch and Tendulkar a new sport to play .....[/quote'] Right on Bheembhai, you and i should watch baseball together GO METS :shades_smile:
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Gaurav Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Actually Slater looked like a fool in that clip. Slater lost his cool completely which meant Dravid got the better fo him :D
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Lurker Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Loveddddddddd this piece. Go young brigade, put a sock in the face of opposition, perhaps u may need to do the same to some of your country's fans too!! Rock on! Yuvraj Singh walks into the post-match press conference after winning against Australia and a berth in the final of the World Twenty20. He has the man of the match trophy in his hand and he is looking for someone. He roars, “Who is the person who called me a liability on the team? Call him now. I want to talk to that person. Where is he or she?” It needed Mahendra Singh Dhoni to cool him down. :hysterical: It is this kind of aggression that has been the feature of this Indian team in South Africa. They have been aggressive on the field, the bowlers have looked straight into the batsman’s eye and the batsmen have met the opposition verbal volley with an even stronger one. This is a different Team India, a team that has always believed in keeping their emotions in check. And probably this has made the biggest difference for them in this tournament. As Cricket Manager Lalchand Rajput told Mumbai Mirror, “Our strategy has been an eye for an eye. In the team meetings we have talked about the need of being aggressive on the field. We have decided to give it back to the opposition. We are no scared of anything. I want the team members to express themself and just go out there and give their best. I think till now we have done that and this will continue against Pakistan." The aggression quotient has been more than visible on the ground. They have been expressing themself, the running between the wicket has been aggressive, the fielders have charged the ball and dived, the bowlers have not only bowled well but have been loud and clear in their appealing. All signs of a team that is young and players who are taking pride in representing their country. As Dhoni said, “I want them to show their expression. In the past the Indian teams are know to control their emotions. I think you can express whatever you feel and still play cricket the hard way. So if someone wants a verbal war, we are ready. I want them to play without fear but according to a plan.” :dance: One such expression was seen on Saturday night when India returned to their hotel in Durban after defeating Australia. Irfan Pathan grabbed a drum from one of the fans and stated beating it. Sreesanth was doing Bhangra, Joginder Singh was being hugged and kissed by the fans and Rohit Sharma being hounded by autograph seekers. A happy and positive Indian team. A state few could have expected them to be in near future after what happened in West Indies six months ago. http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article§id=59&contentid=20070924200709240247415008f32907d
Predator_05 Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Man, that is a great article. GO INDIA
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