India's Total Population Is Now 1.21 Billion: Census

[Tiger80]

Isn't that the problem? The population is not concentrated on "useless barren land" but in metropolitan centers due to lack of opportunities. In the current state' date=' population growth is an issue which is not difficult to calculate why really.[/quote'] Yes population growth is an issue and Indian TFR is declining. In 2012 it is 2.58 per woman.2.1 is needed for below replacement level Please remember rapid decline in birhrates will mean India will severe shortage of young people after 20-30 years .So let it decline in gradual way

[Crookbond]

Yes population growth is an issue and Indian TFR is declining. In 2012 it is 2.58 per woman.2.1 is needed for below replacement level Please remember rapid decline in birhrates will mean India will severe shortage of young people after 20-30 years .So let it decline in gradual way

Fair point - I am not suggesting any forced measures rather suggesting informed decisions by the citizens of this country.

[Tiger80]

I am little confused' date=' does a fertility rate below 2 mean that the population is actually decreasing?[/quote'] No it did not mean population is declining .Population decline when Death rate exceed brith rate. Even in some countries where TFR is 1.5 , population is increasing because of migration and increase in life expentancy With better medical facilities more and more Indians will live longer , so even with low TFR rate population will keep increasing

[nikred]

No it did not mean population is declining .Population decline when Death rate exceed brith rate. Even in some countries where TFR is 1.5 , population is increasing because of migration and increase in life expentancy With better medical facilities more and more Indians will live longer , so even with low TFR rate population will keep increasing

That's all good but still there will come a point in time when the population will eventually start declining if the TFR is less than 2.

[Tiger80]

That's all good but still there will come a point in time when the population will eventually start declining if the TFR is less than 2.

Yes there will come a point when population start declining , but nobody knows when it comes look at the table http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004395.html Poland has birth rate of 9.9 per 1000 and its death rate is too 9.9 .Yet Poland's TFR is 1.38. So even with fertility rate of 1.38 Poland's population is not declining

[CSK Fan]

Not when it affects the bigger picture. Its like SRT playing in the team because his love for the game but MI losing.

Let me guess, you dont live in India, right?

[Sachin=GOD]

Not when it affects the bigger picture. Its like SRT playing in the team because his love for the game but MI losing.

its remarkable how he's always in your thoughts even as you discuss topics which are completely different to his field.

[Yoda-esque]

Let me guess' date=' you dont live in India, right?[/quote'] Whats the correlation if I may ask?

[Yoda-esque]

its remarkable how he's always in your thoughts even as you discuss topics which are completely different to his field.

I am making an analogy, the example hardly matters

[Sachin=GOD]

I am making an analogy' date=' the example hardly matters[/quote'] again, its quite remarkable as to how many of your analogies in the chit-chat section tend to have his name.

[Yoda-esque]

again' date=' its quite remarkable as to how many of your analogies in the chit-chat section tend to have his name.[/quote'] Chit-Chat section?Are you sure? Like I said, change your avatar and everything will fall into place.

[Rocky Balboa]

India is a hot bed for selling Diabetes pills. Don't leave India.

[Tiger80]

Be interesting to know if Indian census records growth rates by religion. My suspicion is a *certain* religion will be found to have multiplied like rats, very similar to Pakis and Bangladesh.

Indian census do record growth rate of religions. Lets see when they will release data of religion of 2011 census

6. Almost ten years ago, I had analyzed the 1961 and 1991 census. The growth disparity even in the two were almost identical to one between the 1991 and 2001. Between 1961 and 1991 Muslim population had grown by 133.66% as compared to Hindu growth of 89.24% -- the Muslim population growth being 150% of the Hindu population growth. 7. To bring it up to date -- Between 1961 and 2001, in absolute numbers, the Hindu population has grown from 366 million to 827 million - a growth of 126% while the Muslim population in the same period grew from 47 million to 138 million -- a growth of 193 per cent. The Muslim population growth was consistent at about 50 per cent higher than the Hindu population. What is more alarming is that Hindu population growth rate has declined from 25% in the previous decades to about 20% in the decade preceding the Census while the Muslim population growth , if not increased, as the initial data had indicated, it has almost remained constant, and if declined, only marginally so. It is still a high of around 30%. The hoopla caused by census 2001 release just goes to show the hypocrisy of politicians of all hues. The controversy regarding the lack of census in J&K and Assam in 1991 and 1981 respectively, while it may satisfy the appetite of the secularists, is insignificant in broader terms. http://vinod11220.tripod.com/muslimpopulatin.htm

[someone]

Why is Census 2011 silent on religious data?

Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde released the Primary Census Abstract-Data Highlights of Census 2011 in a function organised by the Office of the Registrar General and Census Commissioner, in New Delhi on April 30, 2013. The report titled Primary Census Abstract-Data Highlights of Census 2011, might have been eagerly awaited and much publicised event till a decade ago. But the proliferation of Internet has ensured that figures were no longer best kept secret. Technological improvements have reduced the time lag between data capture and presentation. The Office of Registrar General & Census Commissioner, Ministry of Home Affairs has already been uploading provisional data online over the last one year. In fact, a more detailed report in two parts, i.e., Provisional Population Totals Paper 1 of 2011 and Provisional Population Totals Paper 2 (Vol-I & II) of 2011 is already available on the net for free. These in print editions are priced Rs 700 together as a tribute to their bulk. The provisional totals have all the imprints of final Census. It contains processed data on child population, gender composition, child sex ratio, state of literacy and density of population. We even have a high-resolution categories like rural vs urban distribution of child population, number of literates and literacy rate by sex and residence. However, one wonders what happened to the religion-wise data. Information on religion was duly collected in Column 7 of the Census 2011 Household Schedule. But both the Provisional Population Totals and Primary Census Abstract are silent on religious data. When the results in rarefied categories like number of literates and literacy rate by sex and residence could be arrived at, would it have been difficult to tell how many Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and Buddhists are in India. Nor would it have been difficult to determine the decadal population growth rate of respective communities. The hindrance was possibly not technological but political. Religious headcount is being undertaken since the first Census of India (1871-72). But it is a highly sensitive category when it comes to the announcing the results. Muslim population tends to increase faster than the rest of the population. In 1909, Colonel UN Mukherji had written a pamphlet Hindus: A Dying Race. His projections were based on the study of three consecutive censuses 1881, 1891 and 1901. It revealed how Hindu demographic share was declining with every passing decade. Colonel Mukherji met Swami Shraddhanand of Arya Samaj at Calcutta in 1911. His statistical and analytical study prompted Swami Shraddhanand to formulate Shuddhi and Sangathan. It was a project to bring back converted Indians into their native Hindu fold. The political sensitiveness of the subject can be understood from the huff around the release First Report On Religion (Census 2001) in 2005, which reveals that contrary to overall population trend, growth rate of Muslim population has increased. The decadal growth rate of the Muslims was around 36 percent which was up from 30 per cent between 1981 and 1991 respectively. The Hindu growth rate had fallen to 20 per cent to from 23 per cent in the same corresponding period. The then Home Minister Shivraj Patil compelled the then Census Commissioner Jayant Kumar Banthia, IAS to ‘adjust’ the figures. Patil’s borrowed argument was that decadal growth could not be determined because there was no Census in Assam in 1981 and J&K in 1991 due to insurgency. Banthia, unwilling to bend, juxtaposed both the adjusted and unadjusted figures on the first page. The Hindu population pegged at 80.5 per cent in Census 2001 is likely to have fallen below 80 per cent in 2011. In parts of India like West Bengal and Assam, the Muslim population might have crossed one-third threshold. The UPA Government is likely to delay this damning revelation as much as possible. Especially, in an election year they feel the BJP will take advantage of the figures. But, I have my doubts about. The BJP will also downplay it for the fear to being branded ‘communal’. All political parties will like to live in denial of a disturbing reality as long as they can. But one can expect greater Muslim assertiveness soon as the religious data of Census 2011 is out. It bodes ill for all political parties of India led by Hindus whether they are secular or communal. Some liberal Hindus might advocate abolishing the religious data category in future Census operations. They made a similar plea last time also. But the reality does not disappear if one were to shut his eyes to it.

[jiggo]

huh, of course they will delay any release of muslim population growth rate. People like Varun Gandhi and Swamy will have field day, and even spook the Hindu electoral. We are already seeing the ugly side effects due to increase of muslim demographics in Assam and West Bengal. But all in all good news for Congress and their slaves.

[CSK Fan]

Whats the correlation if I may ask?

Well, I have usually noticed its people who dont live in a particular country who wants the citizens of that country to have rights to decide for themselves taken away. In any democratic country, people have the right to take their own deicsions, make their own mistales etc. However, NRIs who live in country with all rights, somehow feel that people back home are incapable of using their rights and they are the ones who promote these rights being taken away. Of course, they themselves would not be affected by any such decisions so win win for them?

[Yoda-esque]

Well' date=' I have usually noticed its people who dont live in a particular country who wants the citizens of that country to have rights to decide for themselves taken away. In any democratic country, people have the right to take their own deicsions, make their own mistales etc. However, NRIs who live in country with all rights, somehow feel that people back home are incapable of using their rights and they are the ones who promote these rights being taken away. Of course, they themselves would not be affected by any such decisions so win win for them?[/quote'] Are you understanding what you are typing ?

[superstar]

Make Abotion Laws easier and abortion facilities more accessible. Provide free condoms.

The problem with the former suggestion is people would go and start aborting girls. So there needs to be a balance. People with more than 1 child need to be taxed more or something like that

[CSK Fan]

Are you understanding what you are typing ?

No, why dont you enlighten me? And you have still not disclosed whether you are in India or not Sarcasm is the cheapest form of retort, it saves one from expressing one's opinion and taking a stand

[Yoda-esque]

No, why dont you enlighten me? And you have still not disclosed whether you are in India or not Sarcasm is the cheapest form of retort, it saves one from expressing one's opinion and taking a stand

I see no need to explain where I am or what my citizenship is to you. Stick to the topic at hand rather than being the self appointed pseudo-moral guardian here at ICF.