Wimbledon 2013

[FischerTal]

Just twice in 2 days I guess. Since your username change' date=' for some reason I confuse you with India KXIP fan. :D[/quote'] Ashes fever is here. its time for patto to rip through the poms :ohyeah: and then troll special K :aha:

[StriKe]

Some pre-mature orgasms by the British media as expected.

Some of the Headline title

[Crookbond]

Andy Murray is a survivor of the Dunblane School Massacre where 17 people were killed in a shooting :ohmy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Murray#Personal_life

[Sooda]

^Yeah. There is a documentary on him on BBC called The Man Behind the Racquet, I started watching it yesterday after the final. But apparently the doc reveals a human, fun side to him that his miserable on court persona does not put across. It was screened before Wimbledon and apparently increased him popularity with general UK audience loads. On BBC 1 again tonight - itll have MILLIONS of viewers today lol- and also on youtube Anyway in the documentary Sue Barker talks to him about it. His mum and brother kinda struggle a bit, understandably must have been harrowing. ...

[Sidhoni]

Murray played so superbly yesterday, Djoker never really looked like he is playing to win except maybe 2nd set where he broke Murray's service. Murray was so quick yet so accurate. :hatsoff:

[Sooda]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/07/andy-murray-novak-djokovic-wimbledon-final FIVE REASONS WHY MURRAY WON 1 Murray refused to let Djokovic breathe Andy Murray has always been a great fighter but even when Novak Djokovic led 4-1 in the second set and 4-2 in the third, the Scot refused to let any point go, because he knew how important every single one might be. What might have been lost causes for most players were turned into scrambling lobs or outrageous passes and, with the world No1 shaky on his volleys and overhead, it meant he got himself back into games that on another day he might have let slip away. The result was that Djokovic was never allowed to breathe, never allowed to cut loose. Had Djokovic been allowed to level the match or even pull back the third set after going 2-0 down, the pressure would have been right back on Murray's shoulders. 2 He backed up his serve well Murray's second serve has always been his achilles heel, the one part of his game critics have singled out as an area of vulnerability, somewhere he can be attacked. But on Sunday, though it was not particularly powerful, the positioning and spin were such that Djokovic, arguably the best returner in the game, was unable to attack it. He had far more unreturnable serves than Djokovic, allowing him some breathing space when things got tight, but even on second serve his groundstrokes, especially his backhand, were so solid that he was able to cope with everything the Serb could throw at him. That knowledge that he could rely on himself to recover quickly from whatever Djokovic came up with helped him relax. 3 Murray covered the court better than ever Murray's movement was outstanding, reward for the years he has dedicated to training in the heat of Miami. The Scot has become a truly world-class athlete in recent years and some of his sprints to Djokovic drop shots were breathtaking. Two passing shots in particular, when he was serving for the championship at 5-4 in the third, were extraordinary, all made possible by his anticipation and speed off the mark, which is surely second to none in the men's game. The work he did to rest his ailing back, which forced him to miss the French Open on clay in Paris last month, clearly paid off. No one moves better than Murray on grass, maybe because of his ability to take those additional small steps which help him recover more quickly than players who slide. 4 He used the crowd in the best way Murray did not come out fist-pumping, asking the Centre Court faithful to shout and scream from the very first point. Not that he needed to – the noise when he came on to court would have given him a huge boost in itself. But when he broke in the seventh game of the opening set with four superb points, having been broken back after his first break earlier on, he got the crowd involved, turning to them and double fist-pumping, accompanied by a huge shout of "come on". It worked a treat and the fans helped him through the next game, when he saved three break points and especially in that excruciating last game, their chants of "Andy, Andy, Andy" doubtless helping him over the line as Djokovic pressed to make a comeback. 5 He held his nerve under massive pressure Murray has always prided himself on his ability to see out sets or matches, when he is serving for them, and always believed that he had the mental strength to get things done. In the past couple of years there has been the odd occasion – one against Djokovic in Rome a couple of years ago – when he has failed to close out and paid the price with defeat. But in each set he served it out, including a game he described as the toughest of his career, when he let slip three championship points before finally getting it done. Lesser players would have crumbled and the momentum change could even have cost him the match against someone with Djokovic's ability to prosper in adversity. But he held firm to make history. -- They would not list this of course, but a main reason is that Novak was below his best, having had a lot taken out of him in his semi. Noticebly venturing outside his comfort zone to shorten points resulting in errors and the volleys and drop shots that Murray chased down. novak was very dissapointing on serve too. As theyve said Murray served well, caes at good times keeping pressure off. Novak needed some big serving to get him out of trouble at times but could not find it

[Crookbond]

^Yeah. There is a documentary on him on BBC called The Man Behind the Racquet, I started watching it yesterday after the final. But apparently the doc reveals a human, fun side to him that his miserable on court persona does not put across. It was screened before Wimbledon and apparently increased him popularity with general UK audience loads. On BBC 1 again tonight - itll have MILLIONS of viewers today lol- and also on youtube Anyway in the documentary Sue Barker talks to him about it. His mum and brother kinda struggle a bit, understandably must have been harrowing. ...

Here's the link to the documentary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDi3fHi3wXM

[Sooda]

^I started watching last night and it does seem interesting. Wactedh only about 10 mins or so about when theys started talking about the massacre. Want to watch it all some pt...

[Yoda-esque]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/07/andy-murray-novak-djokovic-wimbledon-final FIVE REASONS WHY MURRAY WON 1 Murray refused to let Djokovic breathe Andy Murray has always been a great fighter but even when Novak Djokovic led 4-1 in the second set and 4-2 in the third, the Scot refused to let any point go, because he knew how important every single one might be. What might have been lost causes for most players were turned into scrambling lobs or outrageous passes and, with the world No1 shaky on his volleys and overhead, it meant he got himself back into games that on another day he might have let slip away. The result was that Djokovic was never allowed to breathe, never allowed to cut loose. Had Djokovic been allowed to level the match or even pull back the third set after going 2-0 down, the pressure would have been right back on Murray's shoulders. 2 He backed up his serve well Murray's second serve has always been his achilles heel, the one part of his game critics have singled out as an area of vulnerability, somewhere he can be attacked. But on Sunday, though it was not particularly powerful, the positioning and spin were such that Djokovic, arguably the best returner in the game, was unable to attack it. He had far more unreturnable serves than Djokovic, allowing him some breathing space when things got tight, but even on second serve his groundstrokes, especially his backhand, were so solid that he was able to cope with everything the Serb could throw at him. That knowledge that he could rely on himself to recover quickly from whatever Djokovic came up with helped him relax. 3 Murray covered the court better than ever Murray's movement was outstanding, reward for the years he has dedicated to training in the heat of Miami. The Scot has become a truly world-class athlete in recent years and some of his sprints to Djokovic drop shots were breathtaking. Two passing shots in particular, when he was serving for the championship at 5-4 in the third, were extraordinary, all made possible by his anticipation and speed off the mark, which is surely second to none in the men's game. The work he did to rest his ailing back, which forced him to miss the French Open on clay in Paris last month, clearly paid off. No one moves better than Murray on grass, maybe because of his ability to take those additional small steps which help him recover more quickly than players who slide. 4 He used the crowd in the best way Murray did not come out fist-pumping, asking the Centre Court faithful to shout and scream from the very first point. Not that he needed to – the noise when he came on to court would have given him a huge boost in itself. But when he broke in the seventh game of the opening set with four superb points, having been broken back after his first break earlier on, he got the crowd involved, turning to them and double fist-pumping, accompanied by a huge shout of "come on". It worked a treat and the fans helped him through the next game, when he saved three break points and especially in that excruciating last game, their chants of "Andy, Andy, Andy" doubtless helping him over the line as Djokovic pressed to make a comeback. 5 He held his nerve under massive pressure Murray has always prided himself on his ability to see out sets or matches, when he is serving for them, and always believed that he had the mental strength to get things done. In the past couple of years there has been the odd occasion – one against Djokovic in Rome a couple of years ago – when he has failed to close out and paid the price with defeat. But in each set he served it out, including a game he described as the toughest of his career, when he let slip three championship points before finally getting it done. Lesser players would have crumbled and the momentum change could even have cost him the match against someone with Djokovic's ability to prosper in adversity. But he held firm to make history. -- They would not list this of course, but a main reason is that Novak was below his best, having had a lot taken out of him in his semi. Noticebly venturing outside his comfort zone to shorten points resulting in errors and the volleys and drop shots that Murray chased down. novak was very dissapointing on serve too. As theyve said Murray served well, caes at good times keeping pressure off. Novak needed some big serving to get him out of trouble at times but could not find it

Not Really, Murray is a better player than Djokovic on grass. Ball Bounce - Djoker's grip is a semi-western to western (more western) grip which is at its most lethal when the ball bounces higher.If the ball keeps low , he has difficulty ripping it. Murray has a semi-western grip (not as extreme as the Djoker's) Movement on grass- Murray scores here as well.On grass , one needs to be light on their feet and while Novak is a great mover, he is not very stable when he hits through (most modern day players do that).One can hit behind him since his movement is explosive but them so is his momentum.We saw Fed hit behind Djoker in last years SF as well. Racquet Preparation - While both players have similar preparations, Djoker takes a fraction longer to hit through,while Murray uses the pace better with lesser preparation. Serve-Djoker has the definite edge here. but again Murray's first serve is as good. Also, Murray's second serve does not sit up on grass to be hit. Both the players are incredibly similar in terms of their physical characteristics,movement,stamina but the minor technical differences do make the difference. Offcourse,Murray did not choke this time as well.

[zep1706]

They would not list this of course, but a main reason is that Novak was below his best, having had a lot taken out of him in his semi. Noticebly venturing outside his comfort zone to shorten points resulting in errors and the volleys and drop shots that Murray chased down. novak was very dissapointing on serve too. As theyve said Murray served well, caes at good times keeping pressure off. Novak needed some big serving to get him out of trouble at times but could not find it

Murray is a better grass court player than Novak. I predicted a straight set win for Murray at some other place. The main difference between the two is that Murray moves much better than Novak on grass. Have you noticed how many times Novak lost his footing in the semi and final? it would be close to 15. Del Potro would have beaten Novak if he was not drained physically in the 5th set. When you don't have a solid footing you are bound to make more UEs. Also Murray can play more aggressively on grass than Novak. He can go for more on his shots and the grass really rewards attacking play. Djokovic does not have the same confidence to play attacking tennis as he has on hard courts. Having said that I expect Murray to win again if they play on a faster hard court like the US open this year. A lot of Novak's strengths don't quite work against Murray on faster courts.

[zep1706]

Some pre-mature orgasms by the British media as expected.

Not sure why you would call it pre-mature.

:hysterical: imagine if they had won CT

Wimbledon is a much more important and prestigious sporting event than CT.

[Sooda]

Not Really, Murray is a better player than Djokovic on grass. Ball Bounce - Djoker's grip is a semi-western to western (more western) grip which is at its most lethal when the ball bounces higher.If the ball keeps low , he has difficulty ripping it. Murray has a semi-western grip (not as extreme as the Djoker's) Movement on grass- Murray scores here as well.On grass , one needs to be light on their feet and while Novak is a great mover, he is not very stable when he hits through (most modern day players do that).One can hit behind him since his movement is explosive but them so is his momentum.We saw Fed hit behind Djoker in last years SF as well. Racquet Preparation - While both players have similar preparations, Djoker takes a fraction longer to hit through,while Murray uses the pace better with lesser preparation. Serve-Djoker has the definite edge here. but again Murray's first serve is as good. Also, Murray's second serve does not sit up on grass to be hit. Both the players are incredibly similar in terms of their physical characteristics,movement,stamina but the minor technical differences do make the difference. Offcourse,Murray did not choke this time as well.

Murray is a better grass court player than Novak. I predicted a straight set win for Murray at some other place. The main difference between the two is that Murray moves much better than Novak on grass. Have you noticed how many times Novak lost his footing in the semi and final? it would be close to 15. Del Potro would have beaten Novak if he was not drained physically in the 5th set. When you don't have a solid footing you are bound to make more UEs. Also Murray can play more aggressively on grass than Novak. He can go for more on his shots and the grass really rewards attacking play. Djokovic does not have the same confidence to play attacking tennis as he has on hard courts. Having said that I expect Murray to win again if they play on a faster hard court like the US open this year. A lot of Novak's strengths don't quite work against Murray on faster courts.

Interestings :two_thumbs_up:

[bones]

So now that Wimbledon is done here is my overall view. I give the tournament 4/10. Plus points. 1. Shocks and upsets galore, it was terrific to see so many outsiders outplay the top guys. Sergiy S&V'd Fed in a way we haven't seen since the 90s. Darcis was more brutal against a semi fit Nadal. There were several on the women's side too. 2. The standard of tennis at times was quite good, not to the high levels of other slams recently, but still quite high. 3. The Del Po vs Djokovic match, a match so epic it drained even Novak, Novak was getting broken in the final every regularly and it's because this mammoth SF took a lot of energy out of him. Definitely the match of the year. Cons: 1. The upsets, whilst it's great outsiders win, without Nadal and Fed the standard does drop. 2. The injuries, too many injuries for far too many players.

[zep1706]

^^^ Let me guess, last year was 10/10. :haha:

[bones]

^^^ Let me guess, last year was 10/10. :haha:

Last year was a 6/10. Overall the quality of tennis higher, not that surprising given the better players were in the last 16. Nadal did get shocked, but that was a higher quality match than the one he lost this year. I haven't enjoyed Wimbledon that much in the last few years. It's been both the AO and USO that have been getting higher marks. Notice that the USO has had 5 different winners in the last 5 years, but the standards have been the highest and it has had the most quality matches.

[Raghav_12]

Last year was a 6/10. Overall the quality of tennis higher, not that surprising given the better players were in the last 16. Nadal did get shocked, but that was a higher quality match than the one he lost this year. I haven't enjoyed Wimbledon that much in the last few years. It's been both the AO and USO that have been getting higher marks. Notice that the USO has had 5 different winners in the last 5 years, but the standards have been the highest and it has had the most quality matches.

and you would have liked Roland Garros least, I guess.

[zep1706]

and you would have liked Roland Garros least' date=' I guess.[/quote'] lol you bet!!! :cantstop:

[bones]

and you would have liked Roland Garros least' date=' I guess.[/quote'] I would give this year's RG a 6/10, several entertaining matches, notleast the SF which Nadal overcame a crumbling Djokovic. Djokovic was very clsoe that day had it not been for some poor decision making and bad overhead smashes. Was a great match in terms of drama, definitely one of the better matches of the year. RG this year had a dreadful final, even worse than this Wimbledon one, not much you can do when a draw pits the two best players in the semis. RG last year was awful as well, in fact because of Nadal's dominance it has made RG as a spectacle the most boring. Notice that I stated the most exciting tournament, the US Open, is the one which has had the different winners. I think this year will be quite open too at Flushing Meadows.

[Raghav_12]

I would give this year's RG a 6/10' date=' several entertaining matches, notleast the SF which Nadal overcame a crumbling Djokovic. Djokovic was very clsoe that day had it not been for some poor decision making and bad overhead smashes. Was a great match in terms of drama, [b']definitely one of the better matches of the year. RG this year had a dreadful final, even worse than this Wimbledon one, not much you can do when a draw pits the two best players in the semis. RG last year was awful as well, in fact because of Nadal's dominance it has made RG as a spectacle the most boring. Notice that I stated the most exciting tournament, the US Open, is the one which has had the different winners. I think this year will be quite open too at Flushing Meadows.

Yes. It was. Top three matches of the year has been Djoko-Wawrinka at AO, Nadal - Djoko at Roland and Djoko-DelPotro at Wimbledon.