The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 This is what the BSP MP Qadir Rana publicly said (video posted earlier in thread) : "Khuda ki Kasam Muzaffar Nagar main aik Hindu baccha bhi Zinda Nahi bach Payega" Action taken by BSP against him : Nothing. zilch. Can you point to one statement by Mayawati claiming it is a kaanspiraacy or threatening violence if he was arrested?
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 How do you know that the absconding BSP MP is a rogue element? Has he been suspended by the party ? Has any Congress leader who made provocative speeches suspended from the party ? Both the Congress and the BSP are going to benefit from the resentment amongst the Muslims against the ineptitude of the SP govt to control the riots. SP may actually turn out to be the biggest loser I think with the situation going so horribly bad. SP might turn out to be the biggest loser in hindsight, but not before the events. Consolidation of Hindu and Muslim votes hurts Congress and BSP the most and neither party has defended the actions of their legislators in public, unlike BJP which even threatened violence if they were arrested through a legitimate court order.
seedhi Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 SP might turn out to be the biggest loser in hindsight' date=' but not before the events. Consolidation of Hindu and Muslim votes hurts Congress and BSP the most and neither party has defended the actions of their legislators in public, unlike BJP which even threatened violence if they were arrested through a legitimate court order.[/quote']The BJP never threatened violence if its MLAs were arrested. And from what I have read there is no such direct evidence of any inflammatory speech or any activity that the BJP MLAs did. The BJP MLAs did not run away, they attended the assembly and courted arrest along with the rest of the MLAs but it was the police which did not arrest them. There is also a perception of biased action given that the SP and Congress leaders have not been booked or arrested.
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Is it, now? Congress and BSP have nothing to gain from these riots politically. They have their rogue MLA and MPs who did stuff, none of which has been justified by the equivalent of Uma Bharti and Rajnath Singh. SP and BJP are the major culprits. Haven't you seen you video of a BSP MP saying " Muzaffarnagar mein ek bachcha nahin bachega"? Do you want me to post that there? While doing this he was flanked by both SP and Cong leaders. Come out of your this obstinate stand when you know the truth. You have failed miserably in this thread when you dragged Modi in this thread, only to realize Azam Khan has much more to do with these riots than Modi.
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 This is what the BSP MP Qadir Rana publicly said (video posted earlier in thread) : "Khuda ki Kasam Muzaffar Nagar main aik Hindu baccha bhi Zinda Nahi bach Payega" Action taken by BSP against him : Nothing. zilch. There is no point in reasoning here.
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 SP might turn out to be the biggest loser in hindsight' date=' but not before the events. Consolidation of Hindu and Muslim votes hurts Congress and BSP the most and neither party has defended the actions of their legislators in public, unlike BJP which even threatened violence [b']if they were arrested through a legitimate court order. what do you mean by that? Courts have not taken suo-moto action in this case. Police prepared cases against politicians very selectively and have asked courts for warrants. Courts have to give warrants. Police is controlled by you know whom. BJP's problem is not with court's orders but with Police pushing cases only for certain politicians.
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Haven't you seen you video of a BSP MP saying " Muzaffarnagar mein ek bachcha nahin bachega"? Do you want me to post that there? While doing this he was flanked by both SP and Cong leaders. Come out of your this obstinate stand when you know the truth. You have failed miserably in this thread when you dragged Modi in this thread, only to realize Azam Khan has much more to do with these riots than Modi. Haven't you seen the video from BJP MLAs exhorting violence? Haven't you seen the fake video that a BJP MLA put up on his site before taking it down? Haven't you seen the latest list of legislators which puts UP and BJP at the top of the list for legislators facing communal charges? Do you want me to post them here?
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 what do you mean by that? Courts have not taken suo-moto action in this case. Police prepared cases against politicians very selectively and have asked courts for warrants. Courts have to give warrants. Police is controlled by you know whom. BJP's problem is not with court's orders but with Police pushing cases only for certain politicians. Kaanspiracy - Pakis and BJP supporters have a lot in common. :hysterical:
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 The BJP never threatened violence if its MLAs were arrested. And from what I have read there is no such direct evidence of any inflammatory speech or any activity that the BJP MLAs did. The BJP MLAs did not run away' date=' they attended the assembly and courted arrest along with the rest of the MLAs but it was the police which did not arrest them. [b']There is also a perception of biased action given that the SP and Congress leaders have not been booked or arrested. Oh please! I listened to Uma Bharti live when the entire drama was going on - she said that if even one BJP MLA was arrested the government would be responsible for the consequences. Kaanspiracy!!:hysterical:
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Haven't you seen the video from BJP MLAs exhorting violence? Haven't you seen the fake video that a BJP MLA put up on his site before taking it down? Haven't you seen the latest list of legislators which puts UP and BJP at the top of the list for legislators facing communal charges? Do you want me to post them here? I don't say that BJP is not culprit. It's you who said BSP is not culprit. I hope and I know you have enough skills in Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning to understand what I said and what you said.
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Kaanspiracy - Pakis and BJP supporters have a lot in common. :hysterical: You are ridiculing yourself in this thread, seriously. After falling flat on your Modi-Shah theory you are jumping to Uma Bharati theory, conveniently ignoring Azam Khan and "humari muslimon ki sarkar" ka CM Akhilesh Yadav. Not even your ardent supporter on forum are with you in this thread where your posts belie your hallucinations.
seedhi Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Oh please! I listened to Uma Bharti live when the entire drama was going on - she said that if even one BJP MLA was arrested the government would be responsible for the consequences. Kaanspiracy!!:hysterical:Where was violence threatened ? Selective action was being taken. No SP, Congress or BSP leader had been touched.
seedhi Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Kaanspiracy - Pakis and BJP supporters have a lot in common. :hysterical:No SP leader has been booked, including the one who made a provocative speech on 30th Aug. The Congress leader leader in the same rally was booked but no arrest warrant has been issued. It is clear to any one that the SP govt is taking selective action, completely sparing the SP leaders and going slow on the Congressmen.
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 I don't say that BJP is not culprit. It's you who said BSP is not culprit. I hope and I know you have enough skills in Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning to understand what I said and what you said. Where have I said that the BSP MLA/MP on video is not a culprit? But from a party perspective it makes zero sense for BSP to polarize the Hindu-Muslim vote. And where has Mayawati come out threatening violence if the BSP leader was arrested? Has she labeled it a kaaanspiracy against BSP like you and Rajnath Singh are doing vis a vis BJP? You are ridiculing yourself in this thread' date=' seriously. After falling flat on your Modi-Shah theory you are jumping to Uma Bharati theory, conveniently ignoring Azam Khan and "humari muslimon ki sarkar" ka CM Akhilesh Yadav. Not even your ardent supporter on forum are with you in this thread where your posts belie your hallucinations.[/quote'] Flat on Modi-Shah? You think multiple MLAs indulging in these kind of acts, and Uma Bharti and Rajnath Singh shielding them can happen without the support of Modi-Shah? Looks like you've ridiculed yourself yet again.
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 No SP leader has been booked' date=' including the one who made a provocative speech on 30th Aug. The Congress leader leader in the same rally was booked but no arrest warrant has been issued. It is clear to any one that the SP govt is taking selective action, completely sparing the SP leaders and going slow on the Congressmen.[/quote'] Yeah, it's clear to me that SP is taking selective action. They are following the Gujarat model.
seedhi Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Haven't you seen the video from BJP MLAs exhorting violence? Haven't you seen the fake video that a BJP MLA put up on his site before taking it down? Haven't you seen the latest list of legislators which puts UP and BJP at the top of the list for legislators facing communal charges? Do you want me to post them here?Can you post the video of BJP MLAs exhorting violence ?
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Where have I said that the BSP MLA/MP on video is not a culprit? But from a party perspective it makes zero sense for BSP to polarize the Hindu-Muslim vote. And where has Mayawati come out threatening violence if the BSP leader was arrested? Has she labeled it a kaaanspiracy against BSP like you and Rajnath Singh are doing vis a vis BJP? Flat on Modi-Shah? You think multiple MLAs indulging in these kind of acts, and Uma Bharti and Rajnath Singh shielding them can happen without the support of Modi-Shah? Looks like you've ridiculed yourself yet again. BSP leaders have been arrested. What does - "aage jo kucch bhi hoga uski jimmedari SP sarkaar ki hogi" mean in the context if not violence? BJP MLA's can't speak anything without support from Modi-Shah but BSP MP can do without support of Mayawati. You are a genious man. Also Azam Khan can do thing without support of Yadav's.
Raghav_12 Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Can you post the video of BJP MLAs exhorting violence ? I am waiting.
The Outsider Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Can you post the video of BJP MLAs exhorting violence ? NDTV.
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