Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Aurangzeb was a king ? right ? thre is no kingdom concept in Islam ... and what taliban did ... its nothing to do with Islam .... All i want to say is that if someone really wants to Understand Islam becoz for the sake of the knowledge and not only for converting thn he/she should read everything with context (websites or books) ..... In this Era if someone wants to Understand the Islam for the sake of knowledge thn dont look at the general muslim ... Becoz most of them are not representing Islam in true Spirit ... so you want to wipe your hands of five hundred years of tyranny and forced hardship which we endured. Fact - they used religion to justify it Fact - Actions are more important than word
Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Bro, Do you know about the Women Rights In Islam ... or you just know the "Fact" becoz of "one" Issue about 4 wives ? I can explain it with Islamic concept .... but its not the topic here .... do you know how many muslim men in pakistan have more thn 1 wife ? I personally never see one single man in pakistan who have more thn 1 wife ..... tell me about Inheritance for women in Islam ? Can you ? no you cant... becoz you dont know much about Islam ... take one point at a time .... dont mix up everything ... 4 wives is just a small problem. In western world animals have slightly better right than women in your country. fact - women are not allowed to drive in saudi arabia fact - women are demeaned and kept under wrap fact- youu think they were raised out of the rib of adam or some stuff fact - their voice does not have equal say incourt of law. fact - you are still in stone ages.
Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 I want to explain this in simple way .... In Islam we muslims (if we are wealthy enough to pay) pay 2.5% of the Zakat(annual Charity) on our total wealth/assets on every calender year for the poor people (muslims or non-muslims) .... no matter we live in Islamic country or non-Islamic country ... we have to pay ... its must ... In Shariah government .... muslims will pay 2.5% charity from thre total wealth becoz its must ... so In Shariah government non-muslims (who are wealthy people, not poor) have to pay 2.5% of taxes annually or (divide this 2.5% into (12) monthly ) ... becoz they are non-muslims and they dont know about Zakat(Islamic Charity) system ... ( I am talking about the Shariah state ... not about the kingdom ) about forefathers (non muslims) , they paid Jazia becoz it was muslim state on that time ... becoz muslim had to pay Zakat too .... (it wasnt even Shariah state .... it was kingdom but they implemented this rule in subcont. ) In pakistan, we muslims have to pay both annual taxes and Zakat separately ... but for Pakistani minorities they have to pay annual taxes only ... and pakistan is not Shariah state ... fact - you did not discuss jazia fact - that was a tax on non muslims for holding different beliefs fact - why were my forfathers forced to pay that tax fact - they paid it because they were hindus/sikhs fact - that is intolerance
Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Bro, did you try to even read my previous post properly .... When someone dont have the knowledge without context about religious scriptures thn this happend ... when did i said these wasnt facts of the history (aurangzeb or afganistan etc) ... you ready to post these "facts" of history but you are not ready to read "Facts" of Islam .... If you want to know the "Facts" of Islam thn you have to read about it with context .... Hitler was the "fact" of History .... so now we all should need to blame it on Christianity becoz of the Hitler ??? why would I lie to you ? I am telling you the Islamic Teaching with Context ... do you know whats the Penalty of telling lies about Islamic Teaching in Shariah for a muslim ??? no you dont know .... again i tell you read the Islamic Teachings (for the sake of knowledge, not for converting or anything) with context first thn we can talk about it .... becoz Half knowledge is dangerous; this apply to both muslims and non-muslims brothers ... Fact - please look in the mirror fact - people despise Hitler and say that all the time fact - you love aurangzeb fact - you love babur fact - you love timarlain fact - you love ahmed shah abdali fact - people condemn hitler fact - you dont condemn aurangzeb fact - you are intolerant peace out brother
Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 We are followers of mahatma Gandhi and Ahmisa. But if our hindu/sikh brothers are being subjected to hardship we should speak out.
CG Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 It does not surprise me about conversions.In india we have people convert to get benefits not by force though.If muslims are not safe in pakistan what chance hindus have .They should be trying to get out if possible.
Midfielder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 These folks not only hate shias they hate ahmediyas too. They dont even let them celebrate eid. Religion of peace - i dont buy it
Pioneer Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Midfielder you are entitled to your opinion but as a Pakistani, a Shia and a Muslim, I laughed at most of your posts. You have such a closeminded view its hilarious. Not everything in this world is so black and white, if it was life would be far simpler.
Tailender Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Tailender please stop supporting the crap. They put some token people upfront for cricket to show their good side but make life miserable for other minorities. Heck you guys cant even seem to get along with shias. Talibanisation of your Pakistan is like cancer. Life is not a Disney movie, buddy. I'm sorry you see things so black and white, but having grown up as a Shia in Pakistan and actually having dealt with the problems, I know this is plain wrong and just a rather stupid conspiracy theory. I have listened to these guys, they are good. my fav guy from pak is najam sethi btw its good to be self critical and indians havent been the best but arent the worst in innovation and R&D.Some contributions from India worth knowing: India invented the Number System, the place value system, the decimal system . Zero was invented by Aryabhatta. The value of 'pi', explanation of Pythagorean Theorem long before the European mathematicians. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th century. Ayurveda Sanskrit(the mother of all european languages), The pioneer of wireless communication was Prof. Jagdeesh Bose as per the IEEE. The game of chess. The earliest reservoir and dam. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted complicated surgeries like cesareans, cataract, artificial limbs, fractures, urinary stones and even plastic surgery and brain surgery. Usage of anesthesia was well known in ancient India. Hotmail by sabeer bhatia contribution in intel processors by vinod dham Indigenous ICBMs, heavy satellites launches, Moon n Mars missions. You will find Indians in large numbers, in important positions in many well-known companies . I don't think his comment was in regards to India. Hassan Nisar never views India with any contempt.
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