Holysmoke Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 Which is why you would not able to understand why people have issues with Dravid being kicked out and not SRT. xxx Snide remark. That statement makes absolutely no sense. What are you trying to say, that SRT looked incompetent in tests?
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Why dont u read my posts about differentiating wrt tests and odi's? But your quote had to do with performance being the criteria for selection, which isnt with Tendulkar
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Bumper, Tendulkar has played well in last 5 tests avg at 60. filtered 5 482 122* 60.25 2 2 4 2/35 52.25 0 8 0 Dont make that cardinal sin of including Bangladesh :haha: The man averages 31.75 in his last 15 tests against non minnows. He is our worst test bat in the last two years
fineleg Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 But your quote had to do with performance being the criteria for selection' date= which isnt with Tendulkar It has to be (whether it is Test or ODI - it has to be). But I guess you will never agree on that. Some warped logic of - "for Tests, we need not look at perf as the main criteria". For Tendulkar, we will look beyond performance. Some hero worshipping that. Hopefully selectors wont think that way forever.
Holysmoke Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 But your quote had to do with performance being the criteria for selection' date=' which isnt with Tendulkar[/quote'] My quote had to do with selection of ODI team. As I have said before, performance is the criteria for selection in the ODI team!
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 My quote had to do with selection of ODI team. As I have said before, performance is the criteria for selection in the ODI team! This is even more hilarious, so for the more important Tests performance is never a criteria ?:hysterical:
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 For your reading pleasure folks Batsmen ordered by their Test averages since Ind-SL 2005 minus Bangladesh KKD Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 4 8 1 364 52.00 0 4 1 Dravid Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 18 33 5 1406 50.21 3 9 0 Ganguly Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 10 17 2 618 41.20 0 4 1 Jaffer Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 13 25 0 992 39.68 3 5 1 Laxman Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 17 30 5 974 38.96 2 7 2 Sehwag Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 15 26 1 891 35.64 2 2 5 Irfan Pathan Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 10 14 0 476 34.00 0 4 2 Dhoni Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 20 29 2 915 33.88 1 5 1 Yuvraj Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 11 17 2 491 32.73 1 2 3 Tendulkar Tests Inn NO Runs Ave 100 50 0 15 25 1 762 31.75 1 4 1 Tendulkar is our WORST TEST BATSMAN, in the last two years, finishing below Irfan Pathan, Dhoni & Yuvraj interms of average. Even interms of no. of runs he is SIXTH in the list, which doesnt say much, as people below him viz -- KKD, Ganguly, Yuvraj & Pathan, have all played far fewer no. of innings Some performance this!
Holysmoke Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 This is even more hilarious' date=' so for the more important Tests performance is never a criteria ?:hysterical:[/quote'] Ofcourse it is. But it is a bit diminished in importance as compared to ODI's.
yoda Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Dont make that cardinal sin of including Bangladesh :haha: The man averages 31.75 in his last 15 tests against non minnows. He is our worst test bat in the last two years filtered 6 427 91 35.58 0 4 2 1/26 92.50 0 7 0 [FONT=MONOSPACE,COURIER NEW,COURIER] since the start of SAF tour minus BD. not droppable. captain-worthy - of course not.
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Ofcourse it is. But it is a bit diminished in importance as compared to ODI's. Your logic completely beats me. Care to explain what you mean by "performance is diminished in importance" for Tests ?
fineleg Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Ofcourse it is. But it is a bit diminished in importance as compared to ODI's. Boatload of nonsense this. "dimnished importance" :haha:
head coach Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Dont make that cardinal sin of including Bangladesh :haha: The man averages 31.75 in his last 15 tests against non minnows. He is our worst test bat in the last two years He has more than 50 avg against Pak and Aus excluding the two innings he DNB against Pak.
Holysmoke Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 Your logic completely beats me. Care to explain what you mean by "performance is diminished in importance" for Tests ? Its a personal thing. If a person has ability, I would back him, even if he isnt performing, for a longer period of time in test cricket, as compared to ODI cricket.
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 filtered 6 427 91 35.58 0 4 2 1/26 92.50 0 7 0 since the start of SAF tour minus BD. not droppable. captain-worthy - of course not. But yoda, dont you realize that this man does not have it in him anymore to average over 35 against even half decent attacks ? Every player goes thru a rough patch & then makes up for it. In Tendulkar's case, his best series avg in the last two years is 38.00 Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, KKD and heck even Yuvraj have averaged above 50 in some series in this time. This aint a dip in form from Tendulkar, as he never fails to bash Bangladesh, rather an IRREVERSIBLE dip in ability or class
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 He has more than 50 avg against Pak and Aus excluding the two innings he DNB against Pak. In which year, 1999 ?:haha: If you are referring to the 2006 Ind-Pak series, Tendulkar averages 26 in that series
Bumper Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Its a personal thing. If a person has ability' date=' I would back him, even if he isnt performing, for a longer period of time in test cricket, as compared to ODI cricket.[/quote'] So lemme get this straight. In the all important ODI tamashas, performance becomes a key factor in deciding who plays for the team, but in the more rigorous longer version, performance is never a criteria. Thats the first time i have heard that!
Holysmoke Posted October 30, 2007 Author Posted October 30, 2007 So lemme get this straight. In the all important ODI tamashas' date=' performance becomes a key factor in deciding who plays for the team, but in the more rigorous longer version, performance is never a criteria. Thats the first time i have heard that![/quote'] Why are you taking it in binary mode? Did i say performance is never a criteria?
Lurker Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Snide remark. That statement makes absolutely no sense. What are you trying to say' date= that SRT looked incompetent in tests? Do I need to say that? SRT was a walking wicket during his worst phase. Let me leave you with following performance to ponder. 2004/05 against Australia 9th in batting average :tomato: 2004/05 against SA 6th in batting average 2004/05 against Pakistan 4th in batting average 2005/06 against SL 5th in batting average 2005/06 against Pakistan 10th in batting average :tomato: 2006 England SRT 9th in batting averages :tomato: And this man was NOT dropped. :hysterical::hysterical:
head coach Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 In which year, 1999 ?:haha: If you are referring to the 2006 Ind-Pak series, Tendulkar averages 26 in that series Check your stats Man. He played Aussies at Sydney and hit a double century IN 04-05. Pak tour including the innings he didnt bat averaged at 32.
yoda Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 But yoda, dont you realize that this man does not have it in him anymore to average over 35 against even half decent attacks ? Every player goes thru a rough patch & then makes up for it. In Tendulkar's case, his best series avg in the last two years is 38.00 Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, KKD and heck even Yuvraj have averaged above 50 in some series in this time. This aint a dip in form from Tendulkar, as he never fails to bash Bangladesh, rather an IRREVERSIBLE dip in ability or class He played reasonably well against England, the best I have seen him in a while in tests.
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