Ram Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Found this unusual video on snuff movies, [googlevideo]-2695085153314436603[/googlevideo] For the information of people who havent heard this term till now, A snuff film, or snuff movie, depicts the actual killing of a human being - a human sacrifice (without the aid of special effects or other trickery) perpetrated for the medium of film for the purpose of entertainment and distribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Snuff films are not just about killing human beings. Many snuff films are also made about genuine rapes. A very good movie was made about it a while ago- i suggest you watch it, will be very informative : 9mm ( that is the name of the movie, 9 millimeters). As for whether snuff films exist- i think the answer to this is yes. From time to time, the occasional snuff film is uncovered by the police. However, given the nature of the film ( actual killing/rape), it is highly illegal and seriously hushed-up by the users. You will almost never find snuff films online except maybe in some cryptic usenet circles and even then it is very rare.Most snuff films found to date are from private VHS/9mm collection of the owners, somehow comming to the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Yes they do. They have become increasingly common since the advent of Internet and Cellphone technology boom. Now you can make all sort of videos and then share them on web or through cellphones. The situation is worse in Europe than it is in USA since by most account sexual adventurism is that much more acceptable in Europe. Typically when I hear the word snuff it has more to do with sexual clips than violent ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sexual gratification from Gory murders ? Who would be mental enough to feel that ! I am fascinated by this and want to learn more about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sexual gratification from Gory murders ? Who would be mental enough to feel that ! I am fascinated by this and want to learn more about this. Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton. So okay they did not murder each other but they openly admitted that they liked to be in pain when making love. This included using needles, knives and strangulating each other. A particular memory that sticks out in my mind is both of them going on a Red Carpet show with vials of blood(of the other) in a necklace around their neck. uuggggh So yes physical pain is often used for sexual gratification, specially when it comes to BDSM and rape etc. xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton. So okay they did not murder each other but they openly admitted that they liked to be in pain when making love. This included using needles, knives and strangulating each other. A particular memory that sticks out in my mind is both of them going on a Red Carpet show with vials of blood(of the other) in a necklace around their neck. uuggggh So yes physical pain is often used for sexual gratification, specially when it comes to BDSM and rape etc. xxx Good point, but the thing is, this above mentioned example is proof to how people feel that their sexual experience in enhanced if there is a bit of pain added to it, but in the case of snuff movies, isnt it a bit different ? Its actually deriving sexual pleasure from others' pleasure ? Is there a scientific explanation for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Good point' date=' but the thing is, this above mentioned example is proof to how people feel that their sexual experience in enhanced if there is a bit of pain added to it, but in the case of snuff movies, isnt it a bit different ? Its actually deriving sexual pleasure from others' pleasure ? [b']Is there a scientific explanation for it ? It is the same as any other sex - its all in the mind. Mind is the most powerful sexual organ a male or a female has. You can talk to a female, say the right words at the right time and get her worked up like she has never been and not even so much as touch her. There are few stories here that I could tell you but not sure if that will get me banned! With guys obviously this(getting worked up) is not a problem since our threshold is much weaker. The point being when two people, or a man and his pc/video, works to get you exactly what the other person needs it all falls into place. People get titillated for variety of reasons. There are many guys that like to be dominated, there are many girls that like to be pinned down, some that liked to be raped even. To cater to all these desires you will find porns of different kind. However for a smart viewer he can see the difference between an actual act of girl being pinned down and acting per se. So he wants something real - thats where snuff films come in. xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sexual gratification from Gory murders ? Who would be mental enough to feel that ! I am fascinated by this and want to learn more about this. Mate, listen to Lurker, he is talking a lot of sense here. I agree 100% that the most powerful sex organ is the brain. And what gets your brain worked up is a whole host of factors- your personality, your life experiences, your curiosities, etc. There are many spectrums of sexual behaviour that goes beyond merely selecting your 'preffered hole' or 'preffered position'. There is the power angle- most people like to define the status quo in their relationships and if you are perceptive enough, you will see it everywhere- even amongst very good friends, most of the time one friend plays the 'lead', the other 'follows'. Not every single time but enough times for a pattern to exist. And sexual relationship is no different- many feel the need to define the power-status. Some women LIKE being dominated-tie her up and have your way with her. Some women LIKE to dominate. Exactly the same with men. Depending on the person, pain can be seen as good or bad. One side of the coin is 'i like/love him/her and i cannot hurt him/her, lets be good to each other-when they are in pain,i am in pain'. The other side of the coin is 'I like him/her so much that his/her most taboo desires is my pleasure-even if it is physical pain to me' or ' i like him/her so much because they are willing to go through pain for my gratification'. There are many many angles that exists in sexuality- so much so that i laugh at the face of people who consider something as simplistic and mundane as 'sticking it in another hole' as deviant behaviour. For those people really have no idea what sexually deviant behaviour is and are themselves novices in the field. Important thing to remember is that when you are having sexual relations, unless it is strictly formal like you paying for a hooker, it is a bonding experience. Multiple and repeated sex with the same person leads to exploration of the boundaries and as you bond, you get to realize where the other person's threshold is as well as your's. You get to realize what exactly you like, what exactly turns you into total jelly and what exactly it is that turns you off. Its all about mindfulness and awareness of each other in the act. Snuff films are an extreme form of sexual gratification, primarily revolving around power. Sometimes the same people that are turned on by a bit of power in bed get carried away and crave ultimate power in bed. For some, the simple act of him/her playing subservient to you in bed/light bondage or a little bit of pain is not enough. Sometimes, a sole focus on the power angle leads to a downward spiral, where one continuously craves more and more power in the bedroom- it progresses from 'controlling the act' ( mildest form of sexual power-play) to more and more pain- and ultimately culminates in ' if he/she is willing or going to DIE for me in bed, then it is the ultimate sacrifice to me and ultimate reaffirmation of my mojo'. Having said that, to my knowledge, most snuff films have males as the perpetrators and women as the victims (though not all, there are some sick women out there too). Maybe it is because of the inherent aggression in males and inherent nurture in females but i cannot be sure as to why this is the case. Either which way, as a person, it is important to explore the boundaries and push the limits but at the same time,keep an eye on the big picture and not get too carried away in any one direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 And sexual relationship is no different- many feel the need to define the power-status. Some women LIKE being dominated-tie her up and have your way with her. Some women LIKE to dominate. Exactly the same with men. Depending on the person' date=' pain can be seen as good or bad. [b']One side of the coin is 'i like/love him/her and i cannot hurt him/her, lets be good to each other-when they are in pain,i am in pain'. The other side of the coin is 'I like him/her so much that his/her most taboo desires is my pleasure-even if it is physical pain to me' or ' i like him/her so much because they are willing to go through pain for my gratification'. An excellent point there. Sex is the vital part in a relationship. It is depressing to see sex considered taboo by most people but make no mistake sex is going to define your relationship with your partner. Anytime you have an issue and go to Pschiatrist he shall listen to you and his first heavy question would be - Hows your sex life? Which is why it is vital to have open exchange of ideas with your partner. Imagine a couple deeply in love, happily married, kids, family, money all that jazz. Now imagine the same old same old in the bedroom. What if the woman wants to be pinned down on occassion? Or be put a blindfold on her eyes? Or maybe she is old school but in a loving way, instead of traditional position she likes Spoons. Say she is too shy to say to her man, wont that affect her sexual desires? And what if the man is too considerated of his wife to even think of her as a hot sexual body and thinks of her constantly as mother of her children?? Happens all the time. Which is why I would like Indians to openly discuss. Which would be another reason for me to start writing all those erotica lol. Maybe it is because of the inherent aggression in males and inherent nurture in females but i cannot be sure as to why this is the case. Could be. What it could also be due to is the fact that it takes away the guilt factor. Girls, in general, are raised with too many taboos in most society. Do this, do that, dont do this, dont do that and all that jazz. A girl who would never want to cheat on her husband may have this weird dream of being "taken" by a complete stranger while she slept and wake up fine since she was taken and she didnt make that decision. I realize I am treading on delicate ground here, almost treating women as object, I am not. xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky_lafanga Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Kya gandi gandi bate kar rahe ho tum loge :hysterical: Sabh countries ki police ap logon ko pakad ne aa rahe hai :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Snuff films are not just about killing human beings. Many snuff films are also made about genuine rapes. A very good movie was made about it a while ago- i suggest you watch it, will be very informative : 9mm ( that is the name of the movie, 9 millimeters). As for whether snuff films exist- i think the answer to this is yes. From time to time, the occasional snuff film is uncovered by the police. However, given the nature of the film ( actual killing/rape), it is highly illegal and seriously hushed-up by the users. You will almost never find snuff films online except maybe in some cryptic usenet circles and even then it is very rare.Most snuff films found to date are from private VHS/9mm collection of the owners, somehow comming to the spotlight. CC, wasnt that the strangulation after sex movie you are talking about ? Think I saw it some 5-6 years back, in fact it was a pretty good detection movie if I remember correctly...or is it a much later movie you are referring to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 ok..I now remember, it was the 1999 movie 8mm ( millimetres ) starring Nicolas Cage..I rather liked the movie ....yes snuff films do exist but most are probably within a very exclusive group or just made to order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Snuff films are not just about killing human beings. Many snuff films are also made about genuine rapes. A very good movie was made about it a while ago- i suggest you watch it' date=' will be very informative [b']: 9mm ( that is the name of the movie, 9 millimeters). As for whether snuff films exist- i think the answer to this is yes. From time to time, the occasional snuff film is uncovered by the police. However, given the nature of the film ( actual killing/rape), it is highly illegal and seriously hushed-up by the users. You will almost never find snuff films online except maybe in some cryptic usenet circles and even then it is very rare.Most snuff films found to date are from private VHS/9mm collection of the owners, somehow comming to the spotlight. You mean 8MM, Nick Cage - Superb Movie, I though gandolfini was a perfect villan. Unfortunately, they dont write such wonderful scripts anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 You mean 8MM, Nick Cage - Superb Movie, I though gandolfini was a perfect villan. Oops. Thanks for the correction, Rajeev. Btw, if you liked that movie, i highly recommend the (now two-season) old series Dexter. Please don't jump in the middle- the story MUST be followed form the start or else it has no context and the brilliance is lost. I can't praise this show high enough really for content, originality and insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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