Sarkar Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ajmal,s next mystery delivery will be called chapati ball Link to comment
special K Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 This. He was there in the 2010 tour but no one cared as England were winning. He is a chucker though. Link to comment
asterix Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Matt Prior refuses to question Saeed Ajmal's action after dismal day England reflected on familiar failings against spin rather than fuelling a fresh debate over the legitimacy of Saeed Ajmal's doosra after an inauspicious launch to their first year as the top dogs of Test cricket. Ajmal, a 34-year-old off-spinner whose action was referred to, and cleared by, the International Cricket Council in 2009, took career best figures of seven for 55 as England were dismissed for 192 in the first Test against Pakistan in Dubai after choosing to bat first on a pitch offering only a little turn. That prompted Bob Willis, the former England captain now working for Sky Sports, to query the action with which Ajmal bowls his doosra – Urdu for "the other one", because it turns away from the right-hander in contrast to his orthodox off-break. But Matt Prior, who top-scored with an unbeaten 70, suggested that England are more concerned by the angle of their bats than of Ajmal's elbow. "We played a few cross-batted shots when maybe you needed to play straight," he said, describing the secret of his own success as "playing very straight, pretty watchful, and I think that's maybe the way we have to look at it. It's all well and good going out and trying to get on top of the bowlers. Recently we've played a lot of cricket where the ball's come on and you can score at a rate. This is just a reminder that subcontinental cricket is slightly more attritional, and you have to play the long game." Alastair Cook was caught behind cutting when Pakistan's less renowned off-spinner Mohammad Hafeez was introduced unusually early, in the sixth over, then Andrew Strauss was bowled going for a pull in Ajmal's first over as England slumped to 43 for five. Later the left-handers Eoin Morgan and Stuart Broad were both trapped leg-before trying to sweep. Asked directly about Ajmal's action, Prior said: "It's not something we're concerned about, it's not something we talk about in the dressing room … it's got nothing to do with us. If other people want to pull up on it, that's up to them." The wicketkeeper denied that England had been affected by Pakistan's pre-match teases that Ajmal has developed a new delivery, the teesra – or "third one". "I don't think he got in our heads, or us overthinking or fearing him," he said. "We just didn't get it right." Ajmal, who had a brief stint with Worcestershire last summer, spoke Urdu at his press conference, with the Pakistan team manager stating on his behalf that he had kept the teesra mostly under wraps. "It will be coming in the next few weeks," the interpreter said. But Ajmal did produce a two-worded English response when he was asked whether it upset him that old doubts about his action had resurfaced after such a significant day both for him and the Pakistan team in their first meeting with England since the 2010 spot-fixing scandal. "No problem," the spinner said with a smile. Earlier, his translator had quoted him as saying: "I am just concentrating on my bowling – it's basically the umpires and the referees' responsibility to see if there is any problem with the action." He also referred to Saqlain Mushtaq, another Pakistan off-spinner who bowled the doosra and pioneered the teesra. "Such a question has been asked against Saqlain as well, and he's been playing county [for Surrey], and no problem," he said. The doubts about Ajmal's doosra were first raised during Australia's one-day series against Pakistan here in Dubai in April 2009, when he was reported to the ICC by Billy Bowden, the New Zealand umpire who is also standing in this game. But the following month he was cleared after being tested by Bruce Elliott, a member of the ICC's panel of human movement specialists. "I was carrying a 50kg bag on my head, and the decision has allowed me to throw the bag off my head," he said at the time. There is no sign of him being weighed down again any time soon. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jan/17/matt-prior-saeed-ajmal-england Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 He is a chucker though. even shane warne bent his arm at angle of 15 degree.. (near about) while bowling one of his variation no one cares what u think icc allowed it.. and he owned u guys today rule is same for all countries.. Link to comment
special K Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 even shane warne bent his arm at angle of 15 degree.. (near about) while bowling one of his variation no one cares what u think icc allowed it.. and he owned u guys today rule is same for all countries.. Our bowlers don't chuck. End of the day cricket is a gentlemens game and cheats like Ajmal need to be removed from our great sport. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Our bowlers don't chuck. End of the day cricket is a gentlemens game and cheats like Ajmal need to be removed from our great sport. its not cheating mate.. no rule was broken u sir need a dictionary Link to comment
deathmonger Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Our bowlers don't chuck. End of the day cricket is a gentlemens game and cheats like Ajmal need to be removed from our great sport. Your bowlers don't chuck... they suck. Link to comment
special K Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 its not cheating mate.. no rule was broken u sir need a dictionary He's a disgrace to cricket. Technically it should be 192/3. Link to comment
zep1706 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Our bowlers don't chuck. End of the day cricket is a gentlemens game and cheats like Ajmal need to be removed from our great sport. and you had a cheat as captain. 2:50 min NHn1-SrpIMc Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 He's a disgrace to cricket. Technically it should be 192/3. technically u should still be in school and prior ,kp,trott,strauss ( i might ve missed a few) should not be playing this match but world aint fair now is it ? Link to comment
special K Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 technically u should still be in school and prior ' date='kp,trott,strauss ( i might ve missed a few) should not be playing this match but world aint fair now is it ?[/quote'] Have you heard Strauss talk? Tell me what part of South Africa his accent comes from? All of these men have English heritage. Learned to play in England, speak English and decided to play cricket for England. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Have you heard Strauss talk? Tell me what part of South Africa his accent comes from? All of these men have English heritage. Learned to play in England' date=' speak English and decided to play cricket for England.[/quote'] u really expect me to give u fair answer after u spill out bullshit all day ? Link to comment
zep1706 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Have you heard Strauss talk? Tell me what part of South Africa his accent comes from? All of these men have English heritage. Learned to play in England' date=' speak English and decided to play cricket for England.[/quote'] KP and Trott ? lol they grew up in SA and learned to play cricket there. Trott played for SA under 19 and KP played state cricket in SA. Link to comment
BERGKAMP Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Our bowlers don't chuck. End of the day cricket is a gentlemens game and cheats like Ajmal need to be removed from our great sport. yes the english gentlemen, would never go against the spirit of the game, and surprise surprise it is the chewtiya bell who throws the ball - [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m2d6cV4F0]Controversy on Ryan Sidebottom collides with Grant Elliott, - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment
maverick451 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 He bowled with great skill but he does chuck it Link to comment
deathmonger Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 He bowled with great skill but he does chuck it to that i say _*** it. (rhymes) Link to comment
Pioneer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Does anyone know what the exact ICC law on bending the arm is ? If yes then can someone please post it here because I want to know if the bending of the arm itself cannot exceed 15 degrees or if the arm can bend as much as it wants as long as it doesn't straighten by 15 degrees when delivering the ball? If its the latter then Ajmal possibly doesn't straighten his arm fullly before delivering the ball, hence making it legal when he was tested Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Does anyone know what the exact ICC law on bending the arm is ? If yes then can someone please post it here because I want to know if the bending of the arm itself cannot exceed 15 degrees or if the arm can bend as much as it wants as long as it doesn't straighten by 15 degrees when delivering the ball? If its the latter then Ajmal possibly doesn't straighten his arm fullly before delivering the ball, hence making it legal when he was tested it probably includes even rotation...otherwise it would be too easy.. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I was watching the game last night was sad, POMS looked clueless on a benign surface, with them and Aussies they look like rubbish while playing decent spin, I guess same will happen with Ponting, Cowan, Marsh, and CO.YES his action is dodgy but Murali had worse action and took 800 wkts lol, even Akhtar, Lee, Botha, Mills,chuck, it is sad but ICC doesn't have balls, and LORGAT IS A WH@#$, iI bet he will blame BCCI for that one too lol. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I was watching the game last night was sad' date=' POMS looked clueless on a benign surface, with them and Aussies they look like rubbish while playing decent spin, I guess same will happen with Ponting, Cowan, Marsh, and CO.[/quote'] ponting now is respectable player of spin..still cant say good player. australia would also struggle.. only south africa play spin decently Link to comment
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