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[Muloghonto]

Just now, PBN said:

you said the motion was pandering to the terrorist community when it is the majority of sikhs who have advocated the sikh genocide in 1984 where thousands were burnt alive, raped, and murdered for days without the police or government doing anything.

Yes, its pandering to the terrorists in the community to make that judgment without due process. As i said, Ontario declaring the Sikh massacre as genocide, is the only time ever, any level of government has taken a stance on genocide without its own investigation or referring to a formal investigation itself. 

besides, i see no evidence that most sikhs call it a genocide in Canada. I know most Sikhs in India do not see it as one. 

 

Just now, PBN said:

furthermore, thousands of innocent sikhs were killed in punjab over a decade and the person who unraveled this was murdered by Indian police

Innocent ? nope. Thousands of terrorists were killed without trial. And a few unfortunate ones were offed due to corruption in the process. Happens everywhere. I still see no evidence of genocide. Genocide means it requires plan and help from the government to target an an entire community. The definition has not been met.

Maybe this is why reputed bodies like Human rights watch etc do not call it a genocide.

 

[PBN]

15 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Yes, its pandering to the terrorists in the community to make that judgment without due process. As i said, Ontario declaring the Sikh massacre as genocide, is the only time ever, any level of government has taken a stance on genocide without its own investigation or referring to a formal investigation itself. 

besides, i see no evidence that most sikhs call it a genocide in Canada. I know most Sikhs in India do not see it as one. 

 

you said pandering to TERRORIST COMMUNITY in Toronto. What terrorist community?  You simply labeled teh Toronto Sikh community as a terrorist community. You can't make random statements like that not back them up with facts. When it the majority of Sikhs who backed the motion.  By majority obviously we are talking about Canada.  Even in India, majority of sikhs don't glorify the Indian government for the atrocities committed against them in 1984 or the decade that followed.   You have on numerous times siad those asking for injustice against sikhs in 1984 and those who have backed the motion for the sikh genocide as terrorist communit. Let me recall for you, the motion was led by Harinder Malhi, MPP.  So you're calling her a terrorist and the community she represents as a terrorist community?

 

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Innocent ? nope. Thousands of terrorists were killed without trial. And a few unfortunate ones were offed due to corruption in the process. Happens everywhere. I still see no evidence of genocide. Genocide means it requires plan and help from the government to target an an entire community. The definition has not been met.

Maybe this is why reputed bodies like Human rights watch etc do not call it a genocide.

 

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The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He

presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river.

 

 

Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'.

 

 

Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour.

 

Disappearances were unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Human rights violations were widespread and in November 1984, when the genocide climaxed in four days of State-facilitated, unhinged violence. While the Indian Government has often claimed that the violence was a result of Indira Gandhi's assassination, this canard was debunked by the Nanavati Commission report headed by the former Supreme Court Justice, G.T Nanavati. In his report, Justice Nanavati concluded that "[a]ll this could not have happened [in November 1984] if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public. The systematic manner in which the Sikhs were thus killed indicate that the attacks on them were organized."

 

At that time, anti-Sikh violence was facilitated by political leaders who used voter lists to identify Sikh homes and direct mobs armed with incendiary materials and bussed into the capital city of Delhi via the State-owned and operated transit system. For four days, Sikh men were burned alive. Women were subject to grotesque and inconceivable sexual violence. Children were beheaded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/amneet-singh-bali/1984-sikh-genocide_b_16099600.html
 

 

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[Muloghonto]

Just now, PBN said:

you said pandering to TERRORIST COMMUNITY in Toronto. You can't make random statements like that not back them up with facts. When it the majority of Sikhs who backed the motion.  By majority obviously we are talking about Canada.  Even in India, majority of sikhs don't glorify the Indian government for the atrocities committed against them in 1984 or the decade that followed.   You have on numerous times siad those asking for injustice against sikhs in 1984 and those who have backed the motion for the sikh genocide as terrorist communit. Let me recall for you, the motion was led by Harinder Malhi, MPP.  So you're calling her a terrorist and the community she represents as a terrorist community?

Lear to read. I said and i quote:

"Its declaration is politically motivated, pandering to the terrorist community amongst the Sikhs in TO region. "

You say majority of Sikhs backed the motion- i see no evidence of that, even in Canada. 
I've said numerous times that some of those who call it a genocide and seek Khalistan, are from the terrorist community. I stand by that statement. 
I am not calling Malhi a terrorist- i am saying she is pandering to them by eschewing due process for making unsupported statements. 

 

Just now, PBN said:

 

 

 

The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He

presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river.

 

 

Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'.

 

 

Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour.
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/amneet-singh-bali/1984-sikh-genocide_b_16099600.html

 

I am not sure what posting it again and again proves, except that it is all informal and its not a formal process followed, as in the case of Armenian or Jewish genocide. Or the Cambodian genocide.

 

[PBN]

19 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Lear to read. I said and i quote:

"Its declaration is politically motivated, pandering to the terrorist community amongst the Sikhs in TO region. "

 

I don't where your supposedly " terrorist community" claims are coming from and where this community is in toronto.   Sikhs have advocated for the injustice against them in 1984 yet you are simply calling it 'pandering to the terrorist community' which simply ignored the fact that it's the sikhs who are advocating for the injustices against them in 1984.

 

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I am not sure what posting it again and again proves, except that it is all informal and its not a formal process followed, as in the case of Armenian or Jewish genocide. Or the Cambodian genocide.
 

 

has many answers to the question you keep raising  informing you of the background which you lack in this matter and ignoring.  Fact is, Ontario  has officially passed a motion of declaring the Sikh genocide.

For Sikh Canadians, Ontario's Genocide Motion Was Courageous And Unifying

04/19/2017 05:09 EDT | Updated 04/19/2017 05:09 EDT

Amneet Singh Bali Human Rights Advocate, Law Student and former Social Justice Fellow in Global Governance and Democracy at Windsor Law.

Hindustan Times via Getty Images

NEW DELHI, INDIA - JUNE 12: Devotees look at just laid foundation stone of November 1984 Sikh Genocide Memorial at Gurudwara Rakab Ganj on June 12, 2013 in New Delhi, India. Allegedly more than 8,000 Sikhs died including 3,000 in Delhi during the 1984 anti-Sikhs riots or the 1984 Sikh Massacre by anti-Sikh mobs, in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. (Photo by Vipin Kumar/Hindustan Times via Getty Images)

Earlier this month, in a historic move demonstrating commitment to democracy and human rights, the Ontario Legislature passed a motion to recognize the 1984 anti-Sikh violence as genocide.

 

The term genocide is politically charged and because of this it is rarely used. But, in this instance, acknowledging what happened in 1984 was genocide was truthful, sincere and healing.

 

 

In the 1980s, Canada opened its borders to Sikh refugees fleeing persecution at the hands of the Indian government. Sikh youths were being disappeared by the thousands, with the government claiming they were terrorists that had gone underground. With Canadian assistance, it was later revealed that the government had engaged in a campaign of extra-judicial killings.

 

 

The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river.

 

 

Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'.

 

 

Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour.

 

Jaswant Singh Khalra shed light on a horrific historical episode that many including myself grew up witnessing. During my childhood, the weekly newspaper was full of photos of the bullet-ridden bodies of Sikh men, some emasculated and dressed in saris, but all photographed with police officers hovering over them the way that hunters might loom over their prey. Women, too, were objects of extreme sexual violence, including rape by officers of the State. This was the plight of Sikhs in India, a hunted minority that comprised 2% of India's total population.

 

Disappearances were unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Human rights violations were widespread and in November 1984, when the genocide climaxed in four days of State-facilitated, unhinged violence. While the Indian Government has often claimed that the violence was a result of Indira Gandhi's assassination, this canard was debunked by the Nanavati Commission report headed by the former Supreme Court Justice, G.T Nanavati. In his report, Justice Nanavati concluded that "[a]ll this could not have happened [in November 1984] if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public. The systematic manner in which the Sikhs were thus killed indicate that the attacks on them were organized."

 

At that time, anti-Sikh violence was facilitated by political leaders who used voter lists to identify Sikh homes and direct mobs armed with incendiary materials and bussed into the capital city of Delhi via the State-owned and operated transit system. For four days, Sikh men were burned alive. Women were subject to grotesque and inconceivable sexual violence. Children were beheaded.

 

Justice Nanavati confirmed that at many places the Police had taken away their [Sikhs'] arms or other articles with which they could have defended themselves against the attacks of mobs and that rumours to incite violence against Sikhs had been systemically circulated by many, including the police.

 

I was born in 1986 and raised in the aftermath of what has come to be known as the 1984 Sikh Genocide. I was raised among trauma-afflicted families, and carried much of my own. In university, I elected to study genocide. I completed an Honours degree in Social Justice and Peace Studies, a Master's in Conflict Studies, and weeks from today I will be graduating with a Law Degree from the University of Windsor.

 

From all of my studies and reviews of the academic literature, it is clear that the Indian government committed genocide. Arguments to the contrary overwhelmingly and disproportionately come from organizations heavily linked to India's consular services in Canada, who have exerted pressure on the Ontario Legislature with threats of economic sanction. Jagmeet Singh, Deputy Leader of Ontario's New Democrats, has been denied a visa to India, and has openly spoken about the Consulates attempts to blackmail him. Fortunately, the divisive message propagated by these organizations are not reflective of many, including India's very own Home Minister Rajnath Singh, who himself has referred to what happened in 1984 as genocide.

 

Canadian democracy is resilient, but more importantly it is compassionate. For decades, violence carried out by the Indian state has deeply traumatized Sikhs. That hurt has been intergenerational.

 

Nonetheless, there is a path to healing from all of this. As noted by leading trauma and reconciliation specialist Dr. Judith Herman, the path requires remembrance and truth-telling as prerequisites. That is why the Ontario Legislature's motion is unifying and healing.

 

Canada's and Ontario's democratic institutions have demonstrated their commitment to seeking the truth. I offer my thanks to those courageous MPPs that voted to support this motion, but also some counsel. The path forward will be unifying and healing, but it will also be difficult. As Dr. Herman almost prophetically notes:

 

"Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought this upon herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on."

 

I see this happening now. To those who are standing up for truth and justice, all I can say is, stay on the path. Stay strong. Truth, in the end, is the only way we can heal.

 

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[Muloghonto]

7 minutes ago, PBN said:

I don't where your supposedly " terrorist community" claims are coming from and where this community is in toronto.   Sikhs have advocated for the injustice against them in 1984 yet you are simply calling it 'pandering to the terrorist community' which simply ignored the fact that it's the sikhs who are advocating for the injustices against them in 1984.

Because it was passed without due process. And because there are terrorist sympathizing Gurdwaras and politicians like Jagmeet Singh. Thats why. 

 

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has many answers to the question you keep raising  informing you of the background which you lack in this matter and ignoring.  Fact is, Ontario  has officially passed a motion of declaring the Sikh genocide.

 

And fact is, it means nothing, because due process isn't followed. I respect the feelings of loss, but not every loss is genocide. Until an international body accepts it, nobody else will accept it either. that is also a fact. 

 

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I see this happening now. To those who are standing up for truth and justice, all I can say is, stay on the path. Stay strong. Truth, in the end, is the only way we can heal.

 

Indeed. looking for references of hindus being genocided by Sikh terrorists in Punjab. i suppose that is inconvenient for the terrorist supporters in Toronto.

 

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[PBN]

6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Because it was passed without due process. And because there are terrorist sympathizing Gurdwaras and politicians like Jagmeet Singh. Thats why. 

 

so you have moved from your original claim of terrorist community to terrorist sympathizing gurudwaras and polticians.

 

 

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[Muloghonto]

6 minutes ago, PBN said:

so you have moved from your original claim of terrorist community to terrorist sympathizing gurudwaras and polticians.

 

 

Nope. They are the terrorist community within the Sikhs. That is what 'terrorist community within the Sikhs in Ontario' means. Pretty straightforward. I simply clarified it for you, but my initial statement is perfectly consistent with this one.

 

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[PBN]

5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Nope. They are the terrorist community within the Sikhs. That is what 'terrorist community within the Sikhs in Ontario' means. Pretty straightforward. I simply clarified it for you, but my initial statement is perfectly consistent with this one.

 

you still haven't explained or given any proof who and where this terrorist community is in toronto?

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[Muloghonto]

12 minutes ago, PBN said:

you still haven't explained or given any proof who and where this terrorist community is in toronto?

I have explained. There are Gurdwaras in Toronto and Vancouver who display picture of terrorists.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/kanishka-mastermind-s-picture-at-gurdwara-adds-to-misery-for-kin/story-QV0wDzbaJQrlyFMZBnYl1M.html

 

http://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/khalistan-separation-boils-up-in-canada

 

The links above make it perfectly clear that there are terrorist sikhs hiding behind Gurdwaras in Canada and that some Gurdwaras are joke-dwaras, pandering to terrorists.

 

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[PBN]

4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

I have explained. There are Gurdwaras in Toronto and Vancouver who display picture of terrorists.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/kanishka-mastermind-s-picture-at-gurdwara-adds-to-misery-for-kin/story-QV0wDzbaJQrlyFMZBnYl1M.html

 

http://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/khalistan-separation-boils-up-in-canada

 

The links above make it perfectly clear that there are terrorist sikhs hiding behind Gurdwaras in Canada and that some Gurdwaras are joke-dwaras, pandering to terrorists.

 

how's pictures proof of terrorist community.

[Muloghonto]

2 minutes ago, PBN said:

how's pictures proof of terrorist community.

they are proof of supporting terrorists.. The fact that there are terrorists who were let go due to mistrial, shows us there are terrorists in the Sikh community in Canada. 

 

Why are you hiding from the 'genocide' done by terrorist Sikhs on hindus in Punjab and Haryana during the Punjab insurgency ??? Couldn't find the moral courage to call that a genocide too, eh ?

 I don't expect moral courage from Sikhs in Canada. 

 

[PBN]

11 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

they are proof of supporting terrorists.. The fact that there are terrorists who were let go due to mistrial, shows us there are terrorists in the Sikh community in Canada. 

 

 

photos are not proof of terrorist community in toronto like you mentioned earlier where you dismissed the motion to recognize the Sikh genocide led by the Canadian Harinder Kaur Malhi and Jagmeet Singh, as merely pandering to the terrorist community amongst sikhs in toronto when in fact, the injustice  and genocide against Sikhs in 1984 and decade that followed in punjab had been recognized by the majority of sikhs all over the world. and the fact is Canada's Ontario has officially recognized the Sikh genocide of 1984 whether you want to believe it or not.  If you want to keep on deflecting on the main topic, sure go ahead.

 

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by PBN

[Muloghonto]

2 minutes ago, PBN said:

photos are not proof of terrorist community in toronto like you mentioned earlier where you dismissed the motion to recognize the Sikh genocide led by the Canadian Harinder Kaur Malhi and Jagmeet Singh, as merely pandering to the terrorist community amongst sikhs in toronto when in fact, the injustice  and genocide against Sikhs in 1984 and decade that followed in punjab had been recognized by the majority of sikhs all over the world. and the fact is Canada's Ontario has officially recognized the Sikh genocide of 1984 whether you want to believe it or not.  If you want to keep on deflecting on the main topic, sure go ahead.

 

 

Where is your proof that it is being recognized by the majority of Sikhs around the world ? Do you have a website collecting signatures ? official bill with signatories on it ? 

 

Photos of terrorists during Vesakhi are proof of supporting terrorism. hence terrorist community. Those who support terrorism or terrorists are part of the terrorist community. Simple. The fact that the so-called Sikhs outside of India are the only ones to call it genocide and then ignore the same exact genocide of hindus done by Sikh terrorists, shows us that sikhs outside India do not want truth. They just want to fan the flames of their failed insurgency, in hopes they can profit from it.

 

I am not the one deflecting on the main topic. The main topic is meet Jagmeet Singh. Who is a terrorist supporter. 

 

 

[PBN]

33 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Where is your proof that it is being recognized by the majority of Sikhs around the world ? Do you have a website collecting signatures ? official bill with signatories on it ? 

 

Photos of terrorists during Vesakhi are proof of supporting terrorism. hence terrorist community. Those who support terrorism or terrorists are part of the terrorist community. Simple. The fact that the so-called Sikhs outside of India are the only ones to call it genocide and then ignore the same exact genocide of hindus done by Sikh terrorists, shows us that sikhs outside India do not want truth. They just want to fan the flames of their failed insurgency, in hopes they can profit from it.

 

I am not the one deflecting on the main topic. The main topic is meet Jagmeet Singh. Who is a terrorist supporter. 

 

your terrorist community comment was clutching at straws to undermine the motion in Canada's Ontario that officially recognized the sikh genocide.

 

Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984.  In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes.  Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide.  You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab. 

 

if you want signatures, a simple google search yield those results.

 

i think there's no point in reiterating the same thing over and over again. If you want a better understanding, go do some background considering you have ignored the articles I've posted here. again you keep on deflecting the main points.

 

peace out

 

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[Muloghonto]

8 minutes ago, PBN said:

Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984.  In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes.  Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide.  You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab. 

There have been no reports or official investigation that has officially labelled it a genocide. Fact is, no human rights commission or watch or body recognizes it as genocide, because nobody has proved Indian government's collusion. Again, why are you running away from the Hindus genocided by Sikh terrorists ?? Too afraid of the folks in your Gurdwaras ?

8 minutes ago, PBN said:

 

if you want signatures, a simple google search yield those results.

 

I did. Found nothing that indicates 'most Sikhs' anywhere consider it a genocide.

 

[PBN]

10 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

There have been no reports or official investigation that has officially labelled it a genocide. Fact is, no human rights commission or watch or body recognizes it as genocide, because nobody has proved Indian government's collusion.

 

once again read the article below and my previous post

 

For Sikh Canadians, Ontario's Genocide Motion Was Courageous And Unifying

04/19/2017 05:09 EDT | Updated 04/19/2017 05:09 EDTAmneet Singh Bali Human Rights Advocate, Law Student and former Social Justice Fellow in Global Governance and Democracy at Windsor Law.

 

Hindustan Times via Getty Images

NEW DELHI, INDIA - JUNE 12: Devotees look at just laid foundation stone of November 1984 Sikh Genocide Memorial at Gurudwara Rakab Ganj on June 12, 2013 in New Delhi, India. Allegedly more than 8,000 Sikhs died including 3,000 in Delhi during the 1984 anti-Sikhs riots or the 1984 Sikh Massacre by anti-Sikh mobs, in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. (Photo by Vipin Kumar/Hindustan Times via Getty Images)

Earlier this month, in a historic move demonstrating commitment to democracy and human rights, the Ontario Legislature passed a motion to recognize the 1984 anti-Sikh violence as genocide.

 

The term genocide is politically charged and because of this it is rarely used. But, in this instance, acknowledging what happened in 1984 was genocide was truthful, sincere and healing.

 

 

In the 1980s, Canada opened its borders to Sikh refugees fleeing persecution at the hands of the Indian government. Sikh youths were being disappeared by the thousands, with the government claiming they were terrorists that had gone underground. With Canadian assistance, it was later revealed that the government had engaged in a campaign of extra-judicial killings.

 

 

The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river.

 

 

Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'.

 

 

Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour.

 

Jaswant Singh Khalra shed light on a horrific historical episode that many including myself grew up witnessing. During my childhood, the weekly newspaper was full of photos of the bullet-ridden bodies of Sikh men, some emasculated and dressed in saris, but all photographed with police officers hovering over them the way that hunters might loom over their prey. Women, too, were objects of extreme sexual violence, including rape by officers of the State. This was the plight of Sikhs in India, a hunted minority that comprised 2% of India's total population.

 

Disappearances were unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Human rights violations were widespread and in November 1984, when the genocide climaxed in four days of State-facilitated, unhinged violence. While the Indian Government has often claimed that the violence was a result of Indira Gandhi's assassination, this canard was debunked by the Nanavati Commission report headed by the former Supreme Court Justice, G.T Nanavati. In his report, Justice Nanavati concluded that "[a]ll this could not have happened [in November 1984] if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public. The systematic manner in which the Sikhs were thus killed indicate that the attacks on them were organized."

 

At that time, anti-Sikh violence was facilitated by political leaders who used voter lists to identify Sikh homes and direct mobs armed with incendiary materials and bussed into the capital city of Delhi via the State-owned and operated transit system. For four days, Sikh men were burned alive. Women were subject to grotesque and inconceivable sexual violence. Children were beheaded.

 

Justice Nanavati confirmed that at many places the Police had taken away their [Sikhs'] arms or other articles with which they could have defended themselves against the attacks of mobs and that rumours to incite violence against Sikhs had been systemically circulated by many, including the police.

 

I was born in 1986 and raised in the aftermath of what has come to be known as the 1984 Sikh Genocide. I was raised among trauma-afflicted families, and carried much of my own. In university, I elected to study genocide. I completed an Honours degree in Social Justice and Peace Studies, a Master's in Conflict Studies, and weeks from today I will be graduating with a Law Degree from the University of Windsor.

 

From all of my studies and reviews of the academic literature, it is clear that the Indian government committed genocide. Arguments to the contrary overwhelmingly and disproportionately come from organizations heavily linked to India's consular services in Canada, who have exerted pressure on the Ontario Legislature with threats of economic sanction. Jagmeet Singh, Deputy Leader of Ontario's New Democrats, has been denied a visa to India, and has openly spoken about the Consulates attempts to blackmail him. Fortunately, the divisive message propagated by these organizations are not reflective of many, including India's very own Home Minister Rajnath Singh, who himself has referred to what happened in 1984 as genocide.

 

Canadian democracy is resilient, but more importantly it is compassionate. For decades, violence carried out by the Indian state has deeply traumatized Sikhs. That hurt has been intergenerational.

 

Nonetheless, there is a path to healing from all of this. As noted by leading trauma and reconciliation specialist Dr. Judith Herman, the path requires remembrance and truth-telling as prerequisites. That is why the Ontario Legislature's motion is unifying and healing.

 

Canada's and Ontario's democratic institutions have demonstrated their commitment to seeking the truth. I offer my thanks to those courageous MPPs that voted to support this motion, but also some counsel. The path forward will be unifying and healing, but it will also be difficult. As Dr. Herman almost prophetically notes:

 

"Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought this upon herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on."

 

I see this happening now. To those who are standing up for truth and justice, all I can say is, stay on the path. Stay strong. Truth, in the end, is the only way we can heal.

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by PBN

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, PBN said:

once again read the article

 

Read it. All the article does, is present the private opinion of a few individuals. That is not how one makes a case for genocide.  My point stands : they have not made a formal case similar to every single accepted claim of genocide by international human rights bodies. hence no human rights body accepts the claim.

Should be pretty straightforward. And their pronouncement matters a lot more than a political body that is subverted by terrorist sympathizers like Jagmeet Singh.

 

 

PS: I have asked you many times now- why do you keep running away from addressing the hindus genocided by the Sikh terrorists ??We have plenty of records of the Sikh terrorists genociding hindus as well...

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by Muloghonto

[PBN]

Fact is in Canada, the Ontario government has officially passed the motion of recognizing the Sikh genocide of 1984.  The motion was led by Jagmeet Singh and then Harinder Malhi and passed with a 34-5 vote in the Ontario parliament.

 

If you want to undermine the motion, then it's your opinion. Like mentioned previously: Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984.  In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes.  Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide.  You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab

 

If you want to keep on deflecting from the main point of injustice and atrocities on the sikhs in 1984 and after, and are looking to undermine them, then it's your choice.

 

Peace out

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by PBN

[Muloghonto]

12 minutes ago, PBN said:

Fact is in Canada, the Ontario government has officially passed the motion of recognizing the Sikh genocide of 1984.  The motion was led by Jagmeet Singh and then Harinder Malhi and passed with a 34-5 vote in the Ontario parliament.

Nobody denied that fact. I've only stated that no international human rights watch/organization recognizes it as genocide. Also, Ontario government did not commission an official enquiry or base it off of such. Those are also facts.

 

12 minutes ago, PBN said:

If you want to undermine the motion, then it's your opinion. Like mentioned previously: Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984.  In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes.  Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide.  You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab

You keep saying 'Sikh all over India/Sikhs all over the world' but you present zero in way of proof to substantiate the said claim.

All that you say-thousands of people killed, raped, etc- were also done by Sikh terrorists in Punjab towards the hindus. Why don't the Sikh community have guts to speak for that ??

 

12 minutes ago, PBN said:

If you want to keep on deflecting from the main point of injustice and atrocities on the sikhs in 1984 and after, and are looking to undermine them, then it's your choice.

 

Peace out

 

The main point isn't injustice or atrocities on the Sikhs, the main point is, Jagmeet Singh and his support of terrorists. Why are you running away from that ?

 

As long as you claim only Sikhs were the victims and leave out mention of hindus slaughtered at the hands of Sikh terrorists, your claim is one-sided ethnocentrically biassed one.

 

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

Babu Moshai...you are spending way too much time with the repetitive stuff...go and complain to corrupt Indian Govt about posters in Gurudwaras here in Canada...see what shyt they can do....NOTHING?....Suck it & digest it...this is Democracy...not some baabu crap Govt where justice for mass genocide will NEVER be served.....btw, is today your women laundry folding day? Coz you seem too pissed off...g'nite.....lol

 democracy doesnt mean you get to support terrorists and not be labelled as a terrorist sympathizer. Jagmeet Singh is a terrorist sympathizer. Just like Dashmesh Gurdwara in Vancouver. 

 

Why are Sikhs so scared to call out the terrorists who slaughtered hindus and terrorists who tried to take over the Sikh holy shrine ??