Desi Cartman Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Unlike in the US, it’s not a faulty gun law that’s killing kids in India. Here, we have another way to kill our children. It’s called exams. At least six students ended their lives across the country, in metros and in villages, on March 13 alone. And all the suicides were attributed to exams. Two teenage boys from Delhi were found hanging from the ceiling at their homes. One could not cope with studies and the other was afraid of an English examination. A final-year BCom student hanged herself in Mumbai; she was not prepared for her economics paper and did not want her family to feel ashamed of her poor marks. A Class XII student from Surat hanged herself from the fan and yet another threw herself before a moving train in Allahabad. And a Class X student killed herself in Avulavaripalem village in Andhra Pradesh days before the board exam, after her principal made her stand outside the classroom for three hours for not paying the school fee. All this happened on one single day. But this could be just the tip of the iceberg. Delhi has witnessed six student suicides in the last 10 days and five students have killed themselves in Mumbai since January. With board exams going on across the country, three students ended their lives in Gujarat and two in UP. Suicide, though, is not the disease itself but the symptom of a much larger malaise: a flawed system of education. After all, for every student who commits suicide, there are 10 others who have attempted it, said Harish Shetty, president of the Counsellors Association of India. The latest National Crime Records Bureau statistics reflect the horrifying trend. this is so sad ,
Desi Cartman Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 and then there is this Chandan Kumar, the main designer of the Chandra Rath, talks about the vehicle in crisp technical parlance which he picked up in the last two years at DCE. The fact that he pulled a rickshaw in Allahabad till three years ago only reassures that crossing hurdles to make it big is a way of life for him. Chandan had left his home in Sonebhadra, a village in Uttar Pradesh when he was 16. His father, trying to make ends meet as a smalltime contractor, and with five other sons and four daughters, Chandan’s higher studies were never a priority. ‘‘I came to Allahabad after completing class X as I could not suppress my desire to learn more. There I paid my school fees by pulling a rickshaw,’’ recalled Chandan. Chandan says he survived on chana and never had a sound sleep in those four years in Allahabad for lack of basic amenities and a nagging thought that his talent was lying unused. ‘‘Once I was sitting with another rickshaw-wallah when I overheard a few students discussing a maths problem. They were dismayed when I corrected them but the incident showed me a way. Soon I had started giving tuitions,’’ Chandan said. At 21 today, he claims to have derived his own theorems, has won Best Technology award from IP University and Best Design award for a robot called ‘Sovereign’ that he and his friends are making for Singapore defence force as part of a contest. Chandan says one of his teachers abused him and his father for his conduct when he was in class IX. ‘‘That teacher was a PhD. The day she abused us, I vowed to achieve an even higher degree to prove my capabilities. Today I thank that teacher for giving me a purpose in life,’’ he said.
suraj Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Chandan Kumar, the main designer of the Chandra Rath, talks about the vehicle in crisp technical parlance which he picked up in the last two years at DCE. The fact that he pulled a rickshaw in Allahabad till three years ago only reassures that crossing hurdles to make it big is a way of life for him. Chandan had left his home in Sonebhadra, a village in Uttar Pradesh when he was 16. His father, trying to make ends meet as a smalltime contractor, and with five other sons and four daughters, Chandan’s higher studies were never a priority. ‘‘I came to Allahabad after completing class X as I could not suppress my desire to learn more. There I paid my school fees by pulling a rickshaw,’’ recalled Chandan. Chandan says he survived on chana and never had a sound sleep in those four years in Allahabad for lack of basic amenities and a nagging thought that his talent was lying unused. ‘‘Once I was sitting with another rickshaw-wallah when I overheard a few students discussing a maths problem. They were dismayed when I corrected them but the incident showed me a way. Soon I had started giving tuitions,’’ Chandan said. At 21 today, he claims to have derived his own theorems, has won Best Technology award from IP University and Best Design award for a robot called ‘Sovereign’ that he and his friends are making for Singapore defence force as part of a contest. Chandan says one of his teachers abused him and his father for his conduct when he was in class IX. ‘‘That teacher was a PhD. The day she abused us, I vowed to achieve an even higher degree to prove my capabilities. Today I thank that teacher for giving me a purpose in life,’’ he said. whats the source??
Desi Cartman Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 times of India epaper (page 2 I guess)
siddhu Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Respectfully disagree with OP.... its the results of the exam that drives kids to suicide than just exam... and more so parents expecting good results...:D:D
Desi Cartman Posted March 18, 2008 Author Posted March 18, 2008 Respectfully disagree with OP.... its the results of the exam that drives kids to suicide than just exam... and more so parents expecting good results...:D:D yep but even teachers keep reminding "u should think about how much hard work ur parents do to pay ur fees etc" ... its the society .. school , friends , parents , even bloody relatives get involved... :lightbulb:
fineleg Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 There are 2 cases: 1. Students who genuinely put in the effort, but dont get results due to some extraneous reasons. They should be given full support. 2. Students who laze and goof around and dont put in the effort. In anycase, every society has peer pressure and other pressure. The issues vary in different countries.
beetle Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Parents,teachers/school ,peer group.......all of these contribute to this. There are few counselling options and children do not open up with their parents to let them know how they feel because such things are not encouraged in a lot of homes. A lot of these childen could have grown up to become singers,musicians,artists........Unfortunately most parents consider such ambitions are" loser options".
Desi Cartman Posted March 19, 2008 Author Posted March 19, 2008 Unlike the film Taare Zameen Par , this is a story of a dyslexic boy which ended on a tragic note on Tuesday afternoon. Around 1.50pm, Shwetabh Nagar, 21, killed himself by jumping from the fifth floor of the multilevel parking lot at Nehru Place. Son of a brigadier, Shwetabh was pursuing a degree in mass communications from Asian School of Media Studies at Noida. He was dyslexic. Not bright academically, Shwetabh was nevertheless a brilliant photographer and excelled in computer-aided designing. According to the Kalkaji police, the immediate provocation behind the suicide was not known. Judging by some notes recovered from Shwetabh's car, it was obvious that he was suffering from a writing disorder. "His handwriting was hardly legible. In fact, he had photocopied notes from someone else to study," said an officer. According to Shwetabh's uncle, Amarpal Nagar, his nephew was an introvert. While he had made some friends in Udaipur, where his father, Brigadier Sripal Nagar, was posted earlier, Shwetabh had no friends in Delhi. Due to his dyslexia, he also had a problem reading and writing since childhood. He failed to clear his Class XII board exams from Central School, Udaipur, three years ago. He had also changed schools a number of times as his father's job is transferable. On Tuesday afternoon, he drove his Hyundai Accent car from his East of Kailash residence to the multilevel parking lot. An attendant on duty at the time said the boy parked the car there, ran and jumped from one of the windows. He did not die immediately and a PCR van, which arrived after bystanders informed the police, took him to the AIIMS trauma centre. He died on the way. Article another sad story
cochise Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Too much pressure and expectations on these young kids. It's tragic to hear these stories...lives extinguished when all of life is ahead of them. Heart bleeds...
siddhu Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Indian Education System is totally flawed. Actually all the education systems are flawed. Not to the same extent but still flawed.
fineleg Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Actually all the education systems are flawed. Not to the same extent but still flawed. All systems are flawed.
vadodaravictor Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Indian Education System is totally flawed. Actually, its not the system, its the competition. There is too much competition to survive in India. If you don't, there are 1000 others to do the job. Hence you need to excel. But its the same competitiveness that makes one agressive. Indian students in High school are much more mature than High school students in US (atleast).
CC1981 Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Actually, its not the system, its the competition. The competeition is most definitely reflective of the system- not only are there not enough insitutes in higher studies, India/Indians have very little idea on how valuable or instrumental non-scientific higher education is. The system is a product of the educational culture and the educational culture in India is not only f*cked up, its completely lopsided. Ofcourse, ultimately,unnnaturally high competition and competetiveness factors into all this and there is only one reason for this : Indians like to breed like rats and produce a galore of offsprings. That ultimately, 90% of India's current problems stem from overpopulation is not only lost on the 90% of Indians- even the few minority desis who acknowledge this problem can't be ar$ed to actually do anything about it- even the ones who moan about overpopulation, they themselves breed like rats and pop out 2-3 kids each...the typical 'this is a good cause, but not for me' pervades through India and so long as Indians keep breeding like rats, India will be a f*cked up place. Not only in terms of education being so unnaturally competetive that it sucks the joy outta life and makes the kids hovering close to nervous breakdown, this overpopulation is reflective in our so-called 'mahaan culture' hacking each other to pieces over something as trivial as being migrant workers- be it Biharis chopped up in Maharashtra or UP-ites getting hacked in Manipur. Indians need to realize (and by extension, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans & Pakistanis too) that the population of the subcontinent is not only unsustainable in terms of pure energy & resource consumption, it f*cks up the cultural base and the nature of the society- the subcontinent put together is over 1.4 billion people - maybe, just maybe, if Indians smartened up and looked at the long term picture, tried to bring the population down to 600-700 million atmost, can there be any hope for India. Otherwise, this land will keep getting more and more f*cked up as we fight over the silliest of reasons, our kids kill themselves and meanwhile, we all keep espousing family values and necessity to breed like rats. It pains me to say this, but every passing day, India/Indians are actually vindicating my decision to quit India for good. Indian students in High school are much more mature than High school students in US (atleast). And that is a positive because ? Perhaps one day India and Indians will realize that kids need to be kids and its very important that they do not be 'fast-tracked' into maturity/'mature little 15 year old' doesnt actually mean a very good thing later on in life.
THX_1138 Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 please... indian education system is flawed. the curiculumn is antiqued, rigid, too regimental and not at all inspirational. we study some **** physics and mathematics, spending time in grade tenth doing dumb **** like "tax structure"; there is no analysis presented, calculus discussions are ****, there is no linear algebra presented rigorously, very little choice in courses to attempt. as for physics, we do stuff like "solar power" and "bio power" when we could be doing the fundamentals of modern physics.
THX_1138 Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 oh yeah... i forgot... i did not learn **** in chemistry. i had to wait till my freshman year in college to understand the origin of quantum numbers, their application to orbital theory and hybridization. why do we squeeze in organic chemistry in high school when we dont teach reaction mechanics, free radical theories and reaction kinematics?
THX_1138 Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 and that ends my rant with obsessive compulsive use of "****"
Desi Cartman Posted March 20, 2008 Author Posted March 20, 2008 ^ as for population .. yes its a concern but Japan has higher population per sq km than India and is still a developed country. It has more to do with corrupt government officials and illiterate politicians.
CC1981 Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Actually all the education systems are flawed. Not to the same extent but still flawed. Having personally been a product of ICSE/CBSE system (Indian), along with GCSE-A level, International schooling system that'd lead to IB and having first hand experience seeing the Canadian education system, i'd rank them as following in how good they are ( all at high school levels or lower): 1. GCSE-A level 2. IB 3. ICSE/CBSE 4. Canadian education system
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