Gavaskar Fired......not yet!

[suraj]

Gavaskar un-fired Sunil Gavaskar, the former India captain, will chair the next meeting of the ICC's cricket committee before conveying his views on the potential conflict of interest between his dual roles in the ICC and as a media commentator. Gavaskar met Malcolm Speed, the ICC CEO, in Dubai on Wednesday to discuss the issue and "it was agreed that Sunil will convey his views" after a meeting of the cricket committee on May 5-6. The ICC Board will review the matter at its next meeting, during the ICC Annual Conference week, between June 29 and July 4. Speed had last week been authorised by the ICC Board to ask Gavaskar to choose between the two roles. "That situation still stands, it's just that Gavaskar will now convey his decision to the ICC after the cricket committee meeting," said a source close to the situation. The meeting between the two was held in a very cordial atmosphere with both of them "joking and laughing" by the end, said the source. "Speed and Gavaskar have been working together for so long, that was not a problem," the source said. The issue of a potential conflict of interest came up in the aftermath of the Sydney Test between Australia and India last January, when Gavaskar criticised match referee Mike Procter in his newspaper column for banning Harbhajan Singh for alleged racial abuse. After the ICC's executive board meeting in Dubai last week, Gavaskar criticised the boards of England and Australia in another syndicated newspaper column. "Gone are the days when two countries, England and Australia, had the veto power in international cricket, even though the dinosaurs may not open their eyes and see the reality," he wrote. "The cricketing world has found that India has no longer a diffident voice but a confident one that knows what is good for its cricket, and will strive to get it." :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay: http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/344084.html

[Lurker]

WOW! Such are the crazy Indian fans that an article that reads - Gavaskar to clarify 'conflict of interest' at next ICC meeting - turns out as -Gavaskar un-fired. Hilarious! The key of course is

Speed had last week been authorised by the ICC Board to ask Gavaskar to choose between the two roles. "That situation still stands, it's just that Gavaskar will now convey his decision to the ICC after the cricket committee meeting," said a source close to the situation

So the situation is very much there, nothing has changed really. Just that Gavaskar will explain his position after the cricket committee meeting. Fair enough I say. Would be interesting to see his defence.

[Lurker]

It does not matter if you are holding a honorary post, is volunteering or is paid- so long as you are working in capacity under a company and you have to be answerable to the CEO of that company(which Gavaskar most certainly is, as his role IS answerable to Speed), you are an employee.

To add to that, as long as you are part of an organization you have to uphold the sanctity of the organization and your position. You can not go about making statements that are anything but that. To give an example, it is one thing for Adwani to take Rathyatra and start all the non-Muslim agenda when BJP is NOT in power. The moment they come in power they have to uphold the Constitution of India and start shedding anti-Muslim image, even if that means it pi$$es off RSS and their supporters. Sunny can NOT be inside ICC and criticize member states in his capacity as a Commentator/Columnist. If he has integrity he should simply resign and take up his fight to "correct" the wrongs. Why be a freaking hypocrite? xxx

[Dravid]

nice :yay:

[beetle]

BCCI ka adha paer bhi nahi pada ICC mein abhi ...aur yeh haal ho gaya....................:hysterical:

[Guest HariSampath]

ICC would have realised that there was nothing they could do or establish conflict of interest, and if it came to it, Gavasker being seen as forced to leave would only confirm to the cricket world that what Gavaskar has been talking and writing about is true. It was a win-win situation for Sunny and he would have let Speed know that. Hence ICC is allowed to "postpone" its position, and Sunny still gets to chair the crucial meeting in summer. Afterall Sunny Gavaskar has been known to handle Speed extremely well !!

[suraj]

WOW!

Such are the crazy Indian fans that an article that reads - Gavaskar to clarify 'conflict of interest' at next ICC meeting - turns out as -Gavaskar un-fired. Hilarious!

Lurker, the title was just in response to another ICF thread titled Gavaskar fired- that's all; nothing sensationalist. Sorry for the confusion but actually that title "Gavaskar fired" was not entirely accurate too as Sunny has not really been fired.

[Lurker]

Lurker, the title was just in response to another ICF thread titled Gavaskar fired- that's all; nothing sensationalist. Sorry for the confusion but actually that title "Gavaskar fired" was not entirely accurate too as Sunny has not really been fired.

Arre yaar tum bhi kamaal karte ho! :(( The thread that you are suggesting was started by Rajeev and the very first thing he says is - Nevermind, str8 shooters don't last long anyways. Basically what it should tell you is that he was in the very least not happy with the development and made the title accordingly. Further, the very first reply in that thread was yours where you claimed - This should warm the hearts of "Whitey" worshippers and then followed it with Another outspoken Asian out of the way.. probably to be replaced by "Yes Sir Mr Whitey" or a "fair and just" white man. So no your argument(that it was merely in response) doesnt hold water. You are sensationalising this here as you were in that thread. xxx

[suraj]

Arre yaar tum bhi kamaal karte ho! :(( The thread that you are suggesting was started by Rajeev and the very first thing he says is - Nevermind, str8 shooters don't last long anyways. Basically what it should tell you is that he was in the very least not happy with the development and made the title accordingly. Further, the very first reply in that thread was yours where you claimed - This should warm the hearts of "Whitey" worshippers and then followed it with Another outspoken Asian out of the way.. probably to be replaced by "Yes Sir Mr Whitey" or a "fair and just" white man. So no your argument(that it was merely in response) doesnt hold water. You are sensationalising this here as you were in that thread. xxx

Arre yaar itna toh maine socha bhi nahi tha post karte waqt The title was just a response, a continuation from earlier thread and not refuting the thread

[Guest HariSampath]

To give an example, it is one thing for Adwani to take Rathyatra and start all the non-Muslim agenda when BJP is NOT in power. The moment they come in power they have to uphold the Constitution of India and start shedding anti-Muslim image, even if that means it pi$ off RSS and their supporters.

Bad example of a bad point and only highlights my original point as valid. Your post suggests that Advani needs to uphold the constitution only if Advani comes to Power and becomes prime minister or Dy PM, and also that this supposed "anti muslim" agenda is allowed if he is Oppn leader . Wrong, He needs to do it ALL the time. Moreover there is no question of "anti muslim" agenda, as the constitution does not permit any official agenda against any section of Indians by any political party. This is like suggesting " Congress can afford to keep quiet about terrorism and engage in muslims appeasement as long as they are in the Oppn , but the moment they come to power, they have to uphold the constitution and arrest terrorists even if they are muslims"...this is completely incorrect. Also this assumes that anyone in Govt cannot criticise functioning of Govt or policy of his party in power, and if they do so, they cannot be in Govt or the party in power. Absolutely nonsense stuff. One only has to read the newspapers/see tv all over the world that cabinet ministers, other chief ministers, secretaries in US cabinet, other top constitutional finctionaries, and even Judges of the Supreme court harshly criticise Govt policy, decisions, legislations passed etc, even hold public rallies against their own Govts, parties etc. This is an everyday functioning of Govts and institutions all over the world and it is naive to assume that once someone does this , they would have to be summarily "dismissed"....it may happen in Pakistan or other banana republics or Iraq under Saddam, but in other civilised parts of the world/Govt/institutions, the policy and management functioning is routinely criticied by those part of it. They dont need to get out of it to criticise. This is called "democratic" functioning of any Govt/company/constitution and so mere public expression of any institution ( especially when done in a completely different professional capacity) is NO conflict of interest. One example. Arun Jaitley is a Senior counsel in Supreme court and routinely handles big litigations, cases for corporations, where petitions have been filed in various courts. If any company files a case , say in a High court where BJP is in power, against the Govt on some issue like tax or any corporate issue, then jaitley can well represent this company in court , against the Govt of India ( or state) even if he is holding a constitutional position as a cabinet minister, and even if he is NOT, he can appear against the Govt run by BJP and still be part of the BJP party and no one asks him to resign. This has happened in 100s of instances and it is NOT a conflict of interest. The above holds true for P Chidambaram, ram Jethmalani, kabil Sibal and a host of Supreme court senior attorneys who had all been Cabinet ministers and still during the day appear in a dozen cases , many of which would be filed against their own Govts. I think this point ( and the Gavaskar issue) has been beaten to death from every perspective with all available facts and interpretations and examples and precedents, and no one has quite offered a logical or legal point that sustains a case against Gavaskar. This is over Lurks, and you know it. Come up with any countere to my points, say something new or just accept it.