Discussion on ICL Players : Do ICL players deserve better?

[Tapioca]

But Intel is not a non-profit company whose main concern is the well-being of semiconductor industry. A closer example is this - my college education was partly funded by the Indian government. I joined a private firm after completing my studies. What will it be like if the government decides that since I used their funds to grow up and is now using those skills for someone else, I should be punished ? I can't use any facilities provided by the government, can't even travel in Indian Railways. Not only that, it forces the US and UK governments to make sure that I can't travel in the government run trains there too. If you are going to say that BCCI should be treated as a business whose main concern are money, the preservation of their monopoly and their egos, then I'll agree that what they are doing is right. But not when they claim that they are a quasi-government, non-profit organization.

[Zap_Brannigan]

Well......BCCI should be treated as a business whose main concern are money, the preservation of their monopoly which inturn gives them profit to invest the money back into the game. Even the governments goal is to make more money. In both the cases, when the administration earn more money, they invest it back in(wht % because of corruption has nothing to do with principle). You got funding from the govt because they got the money from somewhere else. They doesnt stop you from joining other company is because, they believe that you still contribute to their piggy bank thro' other sources like Tax,investments etc. Just because, they both are Non-profit (in a way that noone owns them), doesnt mean they have to leak money. If ICL gives a % of the cut to BCCI to invest in the game, then i am ok with it. But it just basically wants to steal the players . Remember ICL was formed to make money by a private firm.

[Fontaine]

Well......BCCI should be treated as a business whose main concern are money, the preservation of their monopoly which inturn gives them profit to invest the money back into the game. Even the governments goal is to make more money. In both the cases, when the administration earn more money, they invest it back in(wht % because of corruption has nothing to do with principle). You got funding from the govt because they got the money from somewhere else. They doesnt stop you from joining other company is because, they believe that you still contribute to their piggy bank thro' other sources like Tax,investments etc. Just because, they both are Non-profit (in a way that noone owns them), doesnt mean they have to leak money. If ICL gives a % of the cut to BCCI to invest in the game, then i am ok with it. But it just basically wants to steal the players . Remember ICL was formed to make money by a private firm.

You're confusing the relationship between the BCCI and Indian Cricket. The BCCI is a board of private members and in no shape or form is officially linked or sponsored by the Indian Government. In actuality they are "renting" Indian players by giving the contracts and paying for the upkeep of national/state stadiums so HELL YES the BCCI is responsibles for paying dues back into domestic and international cricket because they are renting those things. So that's why the BCCI can't and shouldn't have any say over any other private cricket organization in India like the ICL but ofcourse that doesn't stop them from bullying them. That's why there's a ton of difference between an Indian athlete officially representating his/her country in common wealth/Asian/Olympic games and the Indian team controlled by the BCCI playing international cricket. Those players and the BCCI have no more right or authority over the "Team India" distinction than any other organisation setting up a cricket team of 11 players (like the ICF 11 taking on the Pakistan Cricket Fans 11).

[Tapioca]

So that's why the BCCI can't and shouldn't have any say over any other private cricket organization in India like the ICL

Question : If BCCI is a private organisation, there is nothing to prevent them from refusing to share their resources with another organisation, or insisting that they won't employ anyone associated with that organisation. Isn't that so ? As it is many companies work that way. They will merely be another Microsoft, that's all.

[Fontaine]

Question : If BCCI is a private organisation, there is nothing to prevent them from refusing to share their resources with another organisation, or insisting that they won't employ anyone associated with that organisation. Isn't that so ? As it is many companies work that way. They will merely be another Microsoft, that's all.

Yes they don't have to share their resources but they don't own any stadiums as far as I know, they only "own" contracted players and their own sponsored cricket academy. The 2nd part about refusing to employ or use players from a different organisation? Well that's bordering on monopoly practices which are illegal, but it's subtle.

[Texy]

SL removes ban on ICL rebel players!!! Mumbai, Sept. 18 : While the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) has slapped a 10-year-ban on the players who joined Indian cricket League (ICL), Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) has done exactly the reverse. According to Colombo-based sources close to the SLC, the interim committee has decided to revoke bans on those players who joined ICL and will be allowing them to play Club cricket. As per the ICC guide lines, the ban was imposed during the tenure of former SLC Interim Committee chief Jayantha Dharmadasa. The logic of lifting the ban by Arjuna Ranatunga and company is certain to shock the International Cricket Council and especially the Indian cricket board, with whom present SLC chairman Arjuna Ranatunga is at loggerheads. "It may be the first step to allow players to represent the country in future", one of the top sources in Sri Lanka pointed out. The decision was taken at the last interim committee meeting. "We received the request from a few players and the decision was taken", one of the interim committee members said on conditions of anonymity. The chairman Arjuna Ranatunga was not available as he is in London, it is learnt. source

[h4te]

can't wait for the LULZ that will ensue. although, this is a step towards the right direction. but afraid it will go like this: BCCI/Modi bans SL players from IPL (unless they quit SL). SL players cry to the fat man. fat man re-bans icl players BCCI/Modi win

[sharma]

Sri Lanka lifts domestic ban on ICL players Sri Lanka lifts domestic ban on ICL players Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) has broken ranks with the official cricketing establishment by deciding to allow five cricketers and an umpire who last year signed up for the unauthorised ICL to play domestic cricket. The significant decision was taken by SLC's interim committee last week and has become public two days after the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) became the latest nationol body to ban its ICL cricketers from all forms of official cricket. ICL officials have welcomed the move as "a step in the right direction". The five cricketers who are now eligible to play for their respective clubs are Marvan Atapattu, the former Sri Lanka captain, Russel Arnold, Upul Chandana, Avishka Gunawardene and Saman Jayantha; the umpire is Ranmore Martinesz. Atapattu, Arnold and Chandana retired from international cricket to play in the ICL, and will now be seen in Sri Lanka's Premier League and the limited-overs tournament, which are scheduled to start next month. Duleep Mendis, the chief executive of SLC, told Cricinfo the board's interim committee took this decision at a meeting following a request from the cricketers. "The interim committee has allowed these ICL players to play in domestic cricket after they sought permission to do so. This decision refers to a specific application from a specific group of players to take part in domestic cricket," Mendis said. He refused to comment on whether similar waivers would be granted in future to cricketers who take part in subsequent editions of ICL -- the league's second season starts on October 10. "Players will be allowed to play for their respective clubs and share their expertise, but cannot represent the country," Shane Fernando, the Sri Lanka Cricket media manager, told AFP. "This is a step in the right direction," Himanshu Mody, the business head of ICL, told Cricinfo. "We hope that this decision paves the way for Sri Lankan cricketers to play for the ICL and their country in the near future." The Sri Lankan move was not unexpected, though, after SLC invited Arnold and Chandana to attend post-match prize distribution ceremonies during the Indian series in August. That was in stark contrast to the approach adopted by the BCCI and other national boards, which have banned ICL cricketers from all official platforms - the trade laws in UK, however, ensure that these players can play county cricket. The Indian board, meanwhile, has expressed disappointment at the Sri Lankan move and said it will take up the matter with the ICC. "We are disappointed by this move from Sri Lanka," Niranjan Shah, the BCCI secretary, told Cricinfo. "We will now refer the matter to the ICC, which is already debating the issue of unauthorised cricket." The ICC, which has formed a committee on unauthorised cricket, had clarified that any move to ban such players will "have to be taken by the respective boards of the concerned players". SLC had banned these cricketers last year when they joined the ICL which was in direct conflict to the BCCI-run IPL where 13 cricketers from the national team participated. The BCB on Wednesday banned 13 of its ICL cricketers, including Habibul Bashar, the former captain, for ten years from domestic and international cricket. http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/srilanka/content/current/story/370242.html

[sharma]

so now its official eng-sl-wi vs bcci

[sharma]

mods please delete this thread, didnt know it was already posted

[Texy]

can't wait for the LULZ that will ensue. although, this is a step towards the right direction. but afraid it will go like this: BCCI/Modi bans SL players from IPL (unless they quit SL). SL players cry to the fat man. fat man re-bans icl players BCCI/Modi win

this should be post of the week! hahahaha

[flamy]

can't wait for the LULZ that will ensue. although, this is a step towards the right direction. but afraid it will go like this: BCCI/Modi bans SL players from IPL (unless they quit SL). SL players cry to the fat man. fat man re-bans icl players BCCI/Modi win

lulz.

[Feed]

ICC president agrees to meet ICL officials David Morgan will hold a meeting in London with representatives from the Indian Cricket League. More... Indian Cricket League ICC president agrees to meet ICL officials Cricinfo staff September 25, 2008 David Morgan, the ICC president, has agreed to meet Subhash Chandra, the owner of Zee Entertainment Enterprises Limited, which also owns the ICL. The meeting, which has been arranged for an unspecified date, will be held in London. "The ICL had previously written to the ICC requesting its approval and now it has asked for this meeting, to which we have agreed," Morgan said. "All members of the ICC board have been informed of this meeting and I will report back to those directors at the board's next meeting, in Dubai on October 14 and 15." The ICL has been pressing the ICC unsuccessfully for official recognition of their unsanctioned venture for several months. Subsequently they requested a meeting with the ICC, and hinted at legal action if the ICC didn't agree. The ICL has been in the news over the past few days. On September 16, they unveiled the Dhaka Warriors, a team comprising 13 players from Bangladesh. Following that Sri Lanka Cricket allowed the Sri Lankan ICL players to play in its domestic Premier League Cricket Tournament for the 2008 season, thereby breaking away from the policy of all national boards in barring ICL players from all domestic cricket.