jf1gp_1 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 though this doesn't deserve a separate thread but couldn't find a suitable thread to post this question now a batsman can be declared time out if he is not in ground within 3mins of dismissal. Now my question is when do these 3 min start and end, do they start as soon as umpire has raised his finger to give previous batsman out or after the dismissed batsman has stepped out of boundary rope ? also should the new batsman be on pitch in 3 mins or just inside ground ? Also how does an umpire give a batsman timeout; say a batsman comes after 5min does an umpire wait for him to reach the pitch and give him out before he faces his first delivery or at the end of 3 mins he just raises his finger to declare whoever is next is out send another batsman ? Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 i think it is as soon as the umpire raises his finger but with all the technology being used this is pretty murky ground. Link to comment
DomainK Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 though this doesn't deserve a separate thread but couldn't find a suitable thread to post this question now a batsman can be declared time out if he is not in ground within 3mins of dismissal. Now my question is when do these 3 min start and end, do they start as soon as umpire has raised his finger to give previous batsman out or after the dismissed batsman has stepped out of boundary rope ? also should the new batsman be on pitch in 3 mins or just inside ground ? Also how does an umpire give a batsman timeout; say a batsman comes after 5min does an umpire wait for him to reach the pitch and give him out before he faces his first delivery or at the end of 3 mins he just raises his finger to declare whoever is next is out send another batsman ? I would also like to know the right answer to this. I dont think the umpire will wait for the batsman to come because that way the play will be held up indefinitely. Now, the question is that, how does the umpire decide which batsman is out? Say the player does not come for 5/7 minutes, the opposition raises an objection and the umpire gives out. The batting captain now claims that he was intending to send in the number 11 for some pinch hitting. So the no 11 the given out the normal order of batting resumes. That defeats the purpose. Link to comment
ananthd Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Here it is from the horse's mouth.... It looks like the next batsman must take guard within 3 minutes of the previous batter leaving the wicket.... Link to comment
DomainK Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Here it is from the horse's mouth.... It looks like the next batsman must take guard within 3 minutes of the previous batter leaving the wicket.... 1. Out Timed out (a) Unless Time has been called, the incoming batsman must be in position to take guard or for his partner to be ready to receive the next ball within 3 minutes of the fall of the previous wicket. If this requirement is not met, the incoming batsman will be out, Timed out. (b) In the event of protracted delay in which no batsman comes to the wicket, the umpires shall adopt the procedure of Law 21.3 (Umpires awarding a match). For the purposes of that Law the start of the action shall be taken as the expiry of the 3 minutes referred to above. 2. Bowler does not get credit The bowler does not get credit for the wicket. Still does not say how the umpire knows which batsman should be given out. Either the umpire waits till the batsman comes out and then him rules out or the captain has already submitted a particular order of the batsmen and the umpire just assumes that the next batsman according to the order was supposed to come out. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Stepping outside the ground and stepping inside the ground. Link to comment
Tapioca Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Still does not say how the umpire knows which batsman should be given out. Either the umpire waits till the batsman comes out and then him rules out or the captain has already submitted a particular order of the batsmen and the umpire just assumes that the next batsman according to the order was supposed to come out. A few issues are explained at http://www.lords.org/data/files/law_31_qanda-9679.pdf The umpires will take the word of the captain on who the next batsman is. Link to comment
Tapioca Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Stepping outside the ground and stepping inside the ground. Stepping inside the ground was old version (1980 code). Now they changed it to "be ready to receive the next ball" and increased the time from 2 to 3 minutes. In the old version, the new batsman could presumably enter the ground and wander around as long as he feels like and the umpire could nothing about it :) Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Stepping inside the ground was old version (1980 code). Now they changed it to "be ready to receive the next ball" and increased the time from 2 to 3 minutes. In the old version' date=' the new batsman could presumably enter the ground and wander around as long as he feels like and the umpire could nothing about it :)[/quote'] Ahhh ok, 3 minutes sounded strange! Was not aware of the rule change. Link to comment
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